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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy Would Trump Gut FEMA and NOAA? -- The American Prospect
https://prospect.org/blogs-and-newsletters/tap/2025-06-04-why-would-trump-gut-fema-and-noaa/Robert Kuttner
Destroying American weather science will create a perfect storm of disaster.
Not perverse - just profiteering and destroying the country.
Trumps attack on FEMA goes beyond even the Project 2025 design, which proposed to cut FEMA and turn some of its functions over to the states. Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said in March that she wanted FEMA shut down entirely (she later backpedaled and spoke of shrinking and reforming it). But most states have nothing like FEMAs capacity or experience, and dont want FEMA reduced or closed.
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This is occurring as FEMAs much-depleted sister agency, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), is predicting as many as 19 hurricanes this summer and fall, including three to five major ones likely to cause massive damage. To add injury to insult, Trump has rejected bipartisan requests to continue the Biden policy of covering 100 percent of the costs of relief and recovery operations after major disasters. The usual split is 75 percent federal, matched by 25 percent state.
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Cutting funding for NOAAs forecasting and research is perverse policy, but at least it has ideological logic. Having private companies sponge off of public expertise financed by taxpayers and claim superior efficiency is the standard Republican playbook.
As our colleague Gabrielle Gurley points out in this piece, companies like AccuWeather have nothing like NOAAs in-depth expertise, and profit by packaging and selling what NOAA provides for free. At one point, AccuWeather was lobbying to prohibit NOAA from providing weather forecasts at no charge. And in Trumps first term, he appointed the CEO of AccuWeather, Barry Myers, to head NOAA. But NOAA is such a valuable public good that it has survived basically intactuntil Trump II.
FEMA is a whole other story. When the first major hurricane hits, and a depleted FEMA is not equal to the task, Trump will get the political blameand most hurricane-prone areas are in red states. So the gutting of FEMA makes no political sense. But then, that describes most of Trumps savaging of governments valuable services.
biophile
(1,194 posts)Absolutely- and destruction is part of the path to profits
Bluetus
(2,255 posts)But mainly this is just about chaos. They want to burn anything to the ground that they can. They'd love to destroy Medicaid, Medicare, and SSI, but those have a strong constituency.
Remember, this is an odd collection of criminals, gangsters, Nazis, and Christian crazies. And the Christian crazies are very well represented. These people abhor anything related to science because the periodic table of the elements did not appear in the King James Bible.
LiberalArkie
(19,247 posts)because "they can't do anything right" and the duties will be sent to Accuweather. Which is what Ronnie Raygun wanted to do when he was in power.
Bluetus
(2,255 posts)They want to destroy the public service, and then bribe congress people to award contracts to private companies to do the same thing at 10X the cost and 1/10th the quality.
LiberalArkie
(19,247 posts)Bluetus
(2,255 posts)This has been going on continuously since Thatcher/Reagan. That is the game with Advantage, school vouchers, real medicate (for processing services, see Rick Scott's crimes), the USPS, everything. They are literally trying to dismantle every penny in the Federal budget, not to save taxpayers money, but to put that money under private companies with no oversight from anybody.
forgotmylogin
(7,940 posts)He's mad at NOAA for the sharpie incident.
With FEMA he can't gerrymander funding to only help rich MAGA since weather destruction often affects more poor and "DEI" people he doesn't care about.
LiberalArkie
(19,247 posts)It will just mean that the understaffed NWS and National Hurricane Center staffs will be fired because "they can't do anything right" and the duties will be sent to Accuweather. Which is what Ronnie Raygun wanted to do when he was in power.
questionseverything
(11,531 posts)JHB
(37,935 posts)If a profit can be made, government shouldn't do it because it's stealing business from the free market.
If a profit can't be made, government shouldn't do it because it's a waste of taxpayer dollars.
Their ideal is a 19th century government.
Chasstev365
(7,063 posts)He's hurting his MAGA base.
Maybe these stupid mother fuckers will finally understand that Goebellsvision, aka Fox and the billionaire class are laughing at them.
Bluetus
(2,255 posts)Clearly the P2025 people had a strategy, but that is just one faction of this cabal. The Christian crazies are the biggest part of this gang and they have no real strategy -- except Jesus and heaven.
dchill
(42,660 posts)Blue Full Moon
(3,124 posts)Ping Tung
(4,131 posts)Baitball Blogger
(51,657 posts)create leverage. It forces the governors to beg for it.
erronis
(22,599 posts)Poor widdle Donnie had his feelings hurt when he was 5 years old and still can't get over it.
vapor2
(3,687 posts)AverageOldGuy
(3,303 posts). . . and the second, and third, and . . . And FEMA cant respond, Trump will blame Biden and the MAGAts will agree.
Nigrum Cattus
(1,209 posts)It's RWRE (right wing religious extremism)
Stop trying to figure it out
project 2025 spells it out in writing !
it's ALL there.
https://www.statementonchristiannationalism.com/
erronis
(22,599 posts)I've been to some Southern Baptist and Pentacostal services. Lordy, lordy.
Tetrachloride
(9,349 posts)dameatball
(7,649 posts)BurnDoubt
(1,411 posts)Why "government doesn't work".
He wouldn't hire any of these people to run his businesses. That's the tell.
slightlv
(7,435 posts)Codifer
(1,143 posts)widespread devastation and property damage with no funds to rebuild or restore?
Time to buy lots of real estate when prices are at bottom (and then can change things about so gumint will rebuild for the new owner).
But then, what the hell do I know?
aggiesal
(10,530 posts)Is that at the Federal level, they can draw the best & brightest to FEMA to help is any relief aid regardless of where it's needed.
At state level, 50 states will have to create a position to head their State equivalent of FEMA. Only 1 state could get the Head of Federal FEMA. Then when a disaster appears in their state, other state might help out, but then who pays for that help?
What happens when multiple disasters occur, how do they split the states help, split all the other states that might help.
Where is all the money coming from.
This just doesn't feel like this is a winning strategy.
Just thinking for a friend.