Do you believe the fight is real?

[EndlessWire]

Musk was always planning to leave after what, 100 days or so? Rump gives musk a gold key to Washington. Then, musk is out, and within 24-hours musk is meanmouthing trump's signature bill for tax cuts to the rich.

musk has to repair the damage done to Tesla, which apparently contributes a lot of money to his empire, although now, with all the new government contracts he got, that may become moot. I dunno. I don't think it is salvageable. But, he's going to try. He sure didn't anticipate the loss of Tesla.

I'll believe this when trump reneges on one of those billion dollar contracts that musk got. musk participated in DOGE until he eliminated all the detriment he had from the various departments he trashed. Also, probably got some real dirt, and some backdoor secret control, over all that stuff. Plus the contracts. So, he really, really profited from this association. trump will have to take away some contract to get even with this double dealing on musk's part.

Musk shows his true colors when he attends a presser and accepts that gold key, and then immediately denounces the bill. What a lowlife. But, he has to do something for Tesla. His first loyalty is to himself. So, don't believe whatever he says about "bankrupting the U.S." He doesn't care about that as long as he gets his cut. Which, as far as I can see, he already got. He already took food out of the mouths of other people's children.

I am not so sure that this isn't a ploy on both their parts. I don't follow musk, and most people won't let him rehab his own reputation by following his lead. He's a rat. But, trump uses such stuff to distract, he thrives on chaos and musk is still the richest man on the planet. He's still useful no matter what. So, I think this could be a setup.

It's not that I think that musk isn't capable of sticking a knife in trump's back. I just am not convinced that this is real.

[C_U_L8R]

1. Too expensive to be a phony wrestling match.

the hurt is just beginning.

[Blue Full Moon]

6. I heard Musk lost 18 billion dollars today

[Nevilledog]

26. It's part of the broligarch's plan to install JD Vance

[C_U_L8R]

31. Vance must be squirming in his seat

Probably has Hail to the Chief playing on a loop via Spotify as he prances around his apartment with extra mascara.

[EndlessWire]

37. Squirming on the couch? n/t

[C_U_L8R]

42. Ew.

[magicarpet]

52. Was thinking more like,...

Humping...... poor couch.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

45. That doesn't look like a "plan" to me

It looks like a one word response to some no name rando bullshit on twitter.

[Nevilledog]

47. No offense, but seems you don't know who right wing influencers are, and Musk is supporting impeachment.

[newdeal2]

2. Yes

They each have their motivations for what they're doing. But that doesn't mean it's coordinated.

[drray23]

3. Oh absolutely.

We have enough past examples to refer to. Anybody Trump allies with eventually ends up tossed away and screwed over. Not exactly a new pattern.
In this case, it was a sure thing it would happen quickly. I am surprised they lasted that long. Both ashore megalomaniacs with egos the size of a planet. They were bound to clash.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

4. About 40% of FReak site thinks it is kabuki. . . nt

[highplainsdem]

9. MAGAts want to believe that. It's a nightmare for them if it's real.

[Nevilledog]

27. 👇

[Torchlight]

5. I don't see Mr. trump having the emotional discipline

a façade like that would require.

[Happy Hoosier]

7. Yes....

Neither one of these guys could take the slap to their ego of faking this kind of mudslinging.

[Wingus Dingus]

49. Yep. Musk saying he's the reason TACO Don won is probably a worse insult

than the Epstein accusation. No way his ego could take that.

[Cha]

56. TSF did say in PA that he wouldn't

have won without musk.

[Wingus Dingus]

57. Yes, now I remember he did, never mind!

[Demovictory9]

8. Yes..they are going for tje jugular..Musk just mentioned age

That he has 40 more years left..to live basically.


Burn!!!!!!

[dem4decades]

10. Only real gets this nasty this fast.

[NoveltySocks]

11. I find it believable

Relations between two malignant narcissists like this are unlikely to stay cordial for long, and both can't help themselves when it comes to impulsive social media posting. I also don't think they're capable of being this coordinated, tbh. Their handlers might be, but neither of these assholes seems to listen to their handlers.

[muriel_volestrangler]

12. I was sceptical until Musk mentioned Epstein

It's hard to see that as play-fighting.

[ITAL]

25. Yeah

I was sorta 50/50 until Epstein was brought out. That can't be walked back - lol.

[EndlessWire]

38. Yes, you could be right.

Trump has a lot to protect in that regard. But, it is not new speculation. If he's not in there, he should immediately release the papers, flight logs, etc.

(But, he won't.)

[MorbidButterflyTat]

46. ...because he is

[Javaman]

13. at first I thought it all staged...

not anymore.

now it's a battle of wills. who's ego will win out?

trump will burn it all down before he admits defeat.

and the empty husk will take all his blocks and go home.

this won't end well, for we the people. those to idiots will be fine, they will still be rich.

[Mosby]

14. Elon

Link to tweet

[G_j]

15. yes

[CanonRay]

16. I didn't until the Epstein files tweet.

Now I'm wondering.

[Nanjeanne]

17. Do I care?

[Efilroft Sul]

18. I hope each side kills the other. Neither man and his respective faction, MAGA or DOGE, is good for America.

I'm here for their mutually assured destruction, and it's about goddamned time.

[tinrobot]

19. Those two narcissists? It was inevitable.

Surprised it took this long.

[H2O Man]

20. Interesting!

Recommended.

We will find out. It would, of course, come as a shock, since the felon always parts ways on a good note. We can only hope it doesn't turn into another Burr-Hamilton duel type of thing that destroys both.

[FrankBooth]

21. Remains to be seen

I'll believe it's "real" when there are actual real-world consequences meted out to one or both of them. IMO, the Epstein tweet is pretty meaningless unless backed up with something the public has never seen before - that Epstein/Trump photo is ubiquitous on the internet, and it's common knowledge they were pals, if not besties. If Elon drops previously unknown Epstein/Trump evidence or Trump goes hard after Elon's contracts or something else, then maybe I'll believe. Until then, this is all likely to be forgotten in a month, and the only remnant remaining will be the false public memory that 'Trump and Elon fell out, don't you remember?' That is a perfect result for Elon (although wont' be enough to save Tesla). Not sure what Donald gets out of it, but it's conceivable that he has his reasons, and it's not like the toxic Elon is helping him much at the moment.

Both have plenty of experience manipulating public messaging to their advantage. Both have been ridiculed and mocked mercilessly on the internet for years, so they can surely take a couple of toothless barbs thrown their way. Sure, it's been kind of fun to watch in the same way celeb gossip can be fun to watch, but I want to see one of them actually suffer something consequential as a result before I'll really give a shit about this.

[usonian]

22. In this crazy world, appareances aren't deceiving. They're frickin EVERYTHING.

Malice in the palace is fine.

Trump is breaking with tech, the damage done and the fall guy slugged.
Musk is breaking with the Troglodytes.

They were always uncomfortable with "TEK" and people with "DET CALCULATERS"

[Xolodno]

23. I love the smell of GOP political implosions in the morning!

Michael Cohen said their bromance wouldn't last much longer than a year recently. Musk took a hit financially and the only way he may save Tesla is either step down or sell it. That has to hurt his ego.

[BannonsLiver]

24. Oh yeah it's totally a ploy.

Tuesday called and wants its meme back.

[Midnight Writer]

28. Who did nazi this coming from the start?

[LexVegas]

29. If it was fake you wouldnt see the partied with a pedophile tweets. nt

[obnoxiousdrunk]

30. Yes.

[choie]

32. If Musk hadn't mentioned trump being in Epstein's tapes

I would've said this is bullshit. But I can't imagine trump agreeing to that.

[EndlessWire]

39. Well, does musk know if they

cheated on the election? Because, that would be the main thing most of us would like to know. If musk has proof, he could get immunity and topple the trump regime. That might take away Vance, too--we'd end up with Johnson. Weird stuff.

[hamsterjill]

34. I want Musk to be told that there's no way he could have

Tampered with the election. That he’s not smart enough to have been able to do it.

See where I’m going here?

[EndlessWire]

40. Oh! Yes, I do!

The $248 million dollar question, for sure. That's what we want to know.

[B.See]

35. Jury's still out

in my view. But starting to look real. We'll see.

[Prairie Gates]

36. If we're under 30,000 job growth and over 5% unemployment tomorrow, it's not real

Otherwise, it's real.

[RoeVWade]

41. Not buying a Tesla, real or not. Not sure how it helps Trump, he's way beyond rehabilitation.

nt*

[Raine]

43. Yes... nt

[hatrack]

44. It's plausible - they're sociopaths, with the social skills of 5th-graders and the attention spans of gnats . . .

If there's a "master plan" well-hidden somewhere behind this, they sure as shit didn't create it.

[mwmisses4289]

55. Most toddlers i know have better social skills.

And the gnats are requesting that we humans please quit insulting them by comparing T&E to them. 😄

[Polybius]

48. Not a chance n/t

[ForgedCrank]

50. I do believe

it is real. Everyone expected this from the beginning. Trump simply cannot share attention, and Musk bled off a lot of that over the past few months. Along with his government subsidies getting stripped, his head got too big and Trump felt the power tug at him. What is happening was as predictable as the sunrise.

[crimycarny]

51. Trump's demeanor at his Press Conference today is all I needed to know it's real

Trump looked like a deer in the headlights and didn't take any questions after. He looked very preoccupied and, in fact, scared.

It doesn't seem real to rational people as it's not how you'd expect two normal adult males to react, but it's exactly how you'd expect two raging narcissists to act.

[Iggo]

53. Nope.

I believe somebody had to get his drug habit off of the front page.

Not that Orange Boy is in on it. I just think Elon is so doped up that he sees no other way out of this than to play his Epstein card. So I guess I think the fight is half real…lol.

[LuckyLib]

54. It was foretold.

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[RobinA]

58. Yes. As Predictable

as the sun rising in the east every morning. Not saying they won't be friends again, but that won't last either. Frankly, I always thought the relationship was a bit of a momentary convenience. Neither ne of them has the skills for a two-person act.