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Duncanpup

(15,651 posts)
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 06:06 AM Jun 2025

Eighty one years ago on this day.

D -day was going down. I cannot imagine the fear that these fine men felt or their thoughts riding to the beach feeling the sea spray hitting them. Perhaps they were thinking this is it I’m Fucked as they shook with fear dry heaving or puking from the adrenaline overload alone in thought.

And when they hit the beach and the ramps came down German MG-42 crews going to work rounds ripping into the bodies of our people I’d been pissing my pants out of fear gotta move move fast to get off this landing craft self preservation kicks in.

And if you made it onto the beach find cover shit I’d be thinking I’m ok sergeant I’ll just lay behind this tank obstacle for the rest of my days send me a card when you liberate Berlin.

And those men riding in the bellies of C-47 making ready to drop out of the night sky to liberate France enemy flak ripping through the skins of the aircraft no place to take cover only to sit there.
Perhaps thinking if i get it from the flak i hope it is quick and painless.

Maybe feeling relieved when the jump master starts the commands outboard Personell stand up and in hearing those commands they were probably thinking finally I’m getting off this bird.

And not only on this day I’m thinking our men who fought on Tarawa Guadalcanal or North Africa. They saved the world no drama i just have immense respect for these guys who unfortunately found themselves having to become warriors.

I was fortunate enough to know some of these guys it was the late eighties early nineties i worked with these men in freight union they were close to retirement.

My one union steward for us road drivers survived Tarawa. And i remember reading a book years later about Tarawa an absolute Hell.

And i thought about this man my old road steward in that he was always up for knocking a few breakfast beers down after a night run.

He never talked of his time island hopping i never asked yet now looking back and remembering he had to have had PTSD.

In that he would lose his shit and go off never with me only management real quick from nice guy to extremely angry.
A good man to have in your corner as union driver though.

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Eighty one years ago on this day. (Original Post) Duncanpup Jun 2025 OP
I cannot even imagine, Dunc. SheltieLover Jun 2025 #1
The man who officiated our wedding was there, as a Chaplain underpants Jun 2025 #2
I would argue k_buddy762 Jun 2025 #16
My late Husband True Blue American Jun 2025 #3
A true modest Hero! wolfie001 Jun 2025 #7
Please keep telling his story. Someday the Ilsa Jun 2025 #14
BTW True Blue American Jun 2025 #4
Well said. Thanks. nt sl8 Jun 2025 #5
The US 5th Army, under Lt Gen Mark Clark, liberated Rome on 6 June 1944. irisblue Jun 2025 #6
My father in law was one of these. CanonRay Jun 2025 #27
Honor and respect to him. irisblue Jun 2025 #28
My uncle (my mother's brother) drove a tank in that assault. He got his first Purple Heart there yellowdogintexas Jun 2025 #51
My father-in-law never talked about it either CanonRay Jun 2025 #58
Good to know. Thanks for posting. oasis Jun 2025 #34
A friend was an Italian teacher at the University of Kansas. He was in Sicily when the Allies landed. erronis Jun 2025 #37
The BBC article says June 5, the Wikipedia article says June 4. sl8 Jun 2025 #44
My cousin 'chuted into France on D-Day, part of the invasion forces launched that day. CTyankee Jun 2025 #8
My Dad was in the first wave on Omaha Beach dedl67 Jun 2025 #9
But they didn't have the media we do today. They probably couldn't imagine what the horrors were that lay ahead. CTyankee Jun 2025 #12
Wright Patterson Air Force Base True Blue American Jun 2025 #29
A majority of the soldiers were fresh out of basic underpants Jun 2025 #25
Our Orange-AssHoliness believes that only weak Veterans have PTSD. 70sEraVet Jun 2025 #10
my cousin Vinny. Javaman Jun 2025 #11
Jesus Christ Duncanpup Jun 2025 #17
I went to bed after midnight, EDT thinking Ilsa Jun 2025 #13
Bravery is not lack of fear Martin Eden Jun 2025 #15
Very well written JohnnyRingo Jun 2025 #18
Dad MissouriDem47 Jun 2025 #19
There were quite a few soldiers died in the waters. Never had a chance to even fire their weapon. chouchou Jun 2025 #20
That was depicted in Saving Private Ryan underpants Jun 2025 #26
My favorite movie as a kid was "The Longest Day", a great war movie full of stars elocs Jun 2025 #31
or the series "Band of Brothers" which follows a team all the way through their war experience yellowdogintexas Jun 2025 #52
My father's war ended just before the Battle of the Bulge when he got wounded for the 2nd time elocs Jun 2025 #54
Or "Dunkirk" - about the evacuation at the beginning of the war. erronis Jun 2025 #38
I haven't seen that. underpants Jun 2025 #40
I had a teacher who was there. barbtries Jun 2025 #21
I can't imagine the fear Fred Trump must have felt... ECL213 Jun 2025 #22
Thank you so much for such a beautiful tribute JMCKUSICK Jun 2025 #23
Well Said Ducanpup SheLiberal Jun 2025 #24
My dad landed on Omaha Beach. He was a heavy machine-gunner. elocs Jun 2025 #30
If my dad was alive... Norbert Jun 2025 #32
My school bus driver when I was in 7th Grade had served as a glider pilot during World War II. Aristus Jun 2025 #33
We will remember them LetMyPeopleVote Jun 2025 #35
My dad was in France (Army) biophile Jun 2025 #36
You can request all records of his service. I did for my Dad. Took awhile but it was about two inches thick. Evolve Dammit Jun 2025 #39
Thank you biophile Jun 2025 #41
You can do it online, at the National Archives website. ShazzieB Jun 2025 #47
More great information- thank you very much! biophile Jun 2025 #60
Veterans Affairs I think? It was 20 years ago but they had a ton of his records. Evolve Dammit Jun 2025 #49
Once again, thank you- I appreciate your help and information! biophile Jun 2025 #50
You can request them and the Congress person in your father's home district is where you start yellowdogintexas Jun 2025 #53
That would be great if you could get that. I didn't need a congress person? Evolve Dammit Jun 2025 #59
All for naught too? czarjak Jun 2025 #42
What is owed to these mem is unbelievable. republianmushroom Jun 2025 #43
Our 6th grade teacher was in the 4th wave at Iwo Jima. Grumpy Old Guy Jun 2025 #45
It's people like your teacher that should make us young_at_heart Jun 2025 #55
i enjoyed playing card at a small wi town's VFW when my grandma was visiting her sister. fun guys + i met a man pansypoo53219 Jun 2025 #46
Damn. The deaths. Even civilian deaths were insane. C Moon Jun 2025 #48
K and R senseandsensibility Jun 2025 #56
Thank you for this incredibly written post Duncanpup. Diamond_Dog Jun 2025 #57
 

k_buddy762

(638 posts)
16. I would argue
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:28 AM
Jun 2025

that he possessed the Armor of God, and he was protected for a higher purpose. God bless men like him.

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
3. My late Husband
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:01 AM
Jun 2025

Was wounded on Omaha Beach, second wave, went on to help liberate the camps.
First man stepped on a mine, second, wounded badly, my husband was third in line, 18 years old.
Life time Democrat. He would not be happy today.

I met him later, but his life was shortened from the chemicals.

Ilsa

(64,561 posts)
14. Please keep telling his story. Someday the
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:47 AM
Jun 2025

assholes will try to rewrite it to fit their agenda.

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
4. BTW
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:10 AM
Jun 2025

They were given Medals of Valor 30 years later. The Chaplain that was with them all the way led us through their journey.
Some were still alive. Saw tears rolling down theis cheeks as the Chaplain relived the journey.

About half of their children accepted for them.

Small world,huh guys!.
They drank to forget.
My Husband just would not discuss it.

irisblue

(37,890 posts)
6. The US 5th Army, under Lt Gen Mark Clark, liberated Rome on 6 June 1944.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:14 AM
Jun 2025

That bit of history gets overshadowed by the Normandy Landings.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/june/5/newsid_3547000/3547329.stm#:~:text=Rome%20is%20the%20first%20of,offensive%2C%20Lieutenant%20General%20Mark%20Clark.

snip-"Rome is the first of the three Axis powers' capitals to be taken and its recapture will be seen as a significant victory for the Allies and the American commanding officer who led the final offensive, Lieutenant General Mark Clark."

The Allied Armies invaded Sicily in July 1943, invaded the Italian main land in September 43 and slowly fought their way up towards Rome.


Wiki-https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_campaign_(World_War_II)

yellowdogintexas

(23,752 posts)
51. My uncle (my mother's brother) drove a tank in that assault. He got his first Purple Heart there
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 01:35 PM
Jun 2025

Later he was with Patton's Army when they liberated the Ardennes in the Battle of the Bulge.

My father was one of the ones trapped in the forest in that horrible cold winter and nearly lost his feet to severe frostbite. He received a Bronze Star

They came home to the same small town in Kentucky and had never met prior to the War. (my mom's family had moved there from Kansas during the War). As small as that town was, my parents did not meet until 1946

Daddy never talked about the War, but he always hated cold weather and snow. Actually, few of the WW II veterans that I knew did not talk about the war, unless it was non battle type things, especially some of the other soldiers. Without a doubt, Daddy had a massive PTSD which haunted him his whole life, and led to a severe depression which eventually ended his life.

Nowadays, doctors are better at recognizing signs of depression and give better treatment.

CanonRay

(16,255 posts)
58. My father-in-law never talked about it either
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 03:26 PM
Jun 2025

until I took him to see Saving Private Ryan. Then he opened up.

erronis

(24,495 posts)
37. A friend was an Italian teacher at the University of Kansas. He was in Sicily when the Allies landed.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 06:07 PM
Jun 2025

His recollections were crystal clear once triggered by a taste.

When the soldiers passed through (Palermo I think), they were throwing out candies. This very young boy scooped up what he could and forgot about that particular episode.

One day after arriving in his new home town of Lawrence, KS, he went to a local soda fountain and decided to order a root beer. Once he had the first sip all of those memories from 20+ years ago flooded his mind. He said it was almost overwhelming - he could remember the soldier's faces.

sl8

(17,147 posts)
44. The BBC article says June 5, the Wikipedia article says June 4.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 09:15 PM
Jun 2025

Actually, the BBC's "On This Day .." article about June 5 is about celebrations taking place in Rome, which is consistent with other accounts that place the capture on June 4.

I've read that Clark's capture of Rome was the big news for a couple of days, and then D-Day completely overshadowed it.

Clark has come in for a lot of criticism, albeit certainly not unanimously, for that move.

CTyankee

(68,449 posts)
8. My cousin 'chuted into France on D-Day, part of the invasion forces launched that day.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:16 AM
Jun 2025

He was a kid from Texas, didn't know a word of French, and had a compass (NO GPS IN THOSE DAYS!), some French phrases and words, probably some rations of water and food) and, of course, a MAP.

The thought of what that day must have been like is scary enough...

dedl67

(244 posts)
9. My Dad was in the first wave on Omaha Beach
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:28 AM
Jun 2025

I regret that I never accompanied my Dad on visits to Normandy after the War and that I didn't talk with him more about his experiences on that day. He did tell me that "Saving Private Ryan' was a pretty good representation of what he experienced on the landing.

When I think of the bravery of the110,000 brave men who landed in Normandy that day, I am depressed by how far we have fallen today.

CTyankee

(68,449 posts)
12. But they didn't have the media we do today. They probably couldn't imagine what the horrors were that lay ahead.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:43 AM
Jun 2025

True Blue American

(18,579 posts)
29. Wright Patterson Air Force Base
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 11:48 AM
Jun 2025

Had a great program on DDay a few years ago with videos and all the facts. My Sons in-laws were all surprised his Fad was there and wounded. Asked him why he never talked about it. His answer? “ dad never talked about it.. those who bragged probably never saw it. Those who did wanted to forhpget.

He would never go to the VFW or even ,attend reunions. What is to brag about seeing a man,probably friend blown to pieced stepping on a land mine or shot in cold blood. I loved what Sharmer said to Trump. Shut him down fast.

underpants

(197,139 posts)
25. A majority of the soldiers were fresh out of basic
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 09:07 AM
Jun 2025

Young
In shape
Knew to follow orders without thinking
Had no idea that THAT was not anything close to the norm

70sEraVet

(5,610 posts)
10. Our Orange-AssHoliness believes that only weak Veterans have PTSD.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:31 AM
Jun 2025
“When you talk about the mental health problems — when people come back from war and combat, and they see things that maybe a lot of the folks in this room have seen many times over, and you’re strong and you can handle it. But a lot of people can’t handle it,”

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-suggests-vets-ptsd-cant-handle
Then, HE can't pay respect to those buried in France because his hair would get wet.

I don't know how any Vet can support that malicious malingerer.

Javaman

(65,976 posts)
11. my cousin Vinny.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:42 AM
Jun 2025

Yes, I have a cousin Vinny.

he was in the first wave and was one of only 3 guys that survived in his company. all the others were either wounded or killed.

he sat on the shingle for 3 days under constant fire.

he is gone now, but I think of him on this day.

he was from Brooklyn, NY. He went on become a plumber and raise a family in the Bronx.

Thanks, Vinny.

Ilsa

(64,561 posts)
13. I went to bed after midnight, EDT thinking
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:43 AM
Jun 2025

about how at this moment 81 years ago, they were up, maybe on their way. The generals fearing an extraordinary loss of life from the invasion, even as many as half their paratroopers. This is a sacrifice for which we must always be grateful and remember.

Martin Eden

(15,866 posts)
15. Bravery is not lack of fear
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:20 AM
Jun 2025

Bravery is moving forward despite the fear, doing what must be done so that others won't live in fear.

The task before us today is not nearly so fraught with physical pain and death, but the stakes are very much the same -- the survival of freedom and democracy.

Will we rise to this occasion, and do what must be done?

Eighty-one years ago, battle plans were carefully laid out for the brave soldiers of free nations. Our tasks are less certain, but at least one thing remains the same: the resolve and determination to reach within ourselves and put our hearts and minds to work in defeating the evil before us.

MissouriDem47

(442 posts)
19. Dad
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:46 AM
Jun 2025

My Dad was an artillery forward observer when he served in the 6th Division, 6th Army that liberated the Philippines. He very seldom ever talked about the war and when he did it was usually it was just a quick comment. When he came home he was down to 125 lbs and was battling malaria. Because of the point system he was on a troop ship headed home when the "The Bomb" was dropped. I asked him about it's usage in the 70's. He said simply, "it stopped the war". He was one of the millions of his generation that saved democracy for the world. We now see their sacrifices wasted as people support TACO and his brand of fascism.

chouchou

(3,292 posts)
20. There were quite a few soldiers died in the waters. Never had a chance to even fire their weapon.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:46 AM
Jun 2025

My husband knew a few Englishmen that lost their buddies that way...Talk about War is hell.

underpants

(197,139 posts)
26. That was depicted in Saving Private Ryan
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 09:09 AM
Jun 2025

That’s a lot of gear to be swimming in

🕯️

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
31. My favorite movie as a kid was "The Longest Day", a great war movie full of stars
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 12:35 PM
Jun 2025

that was almost portrayed like a documentary in 1962. But its violence was tame compared to how graphic "Saving Private Ryan" was. I don't think I could have dealt seeing that when I was 10 years old.

yellowdogintexas

(23,752 posts)
52. or the series "Band of Brothers" which follows a team all the way through their war experience
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 01:42 PM
Jun 2025

It is riveting. I almost did not make it through the segment on The Battle of the Bulge due to my father's experience there.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
54. My father's war ended just before the Battle of the Bulge when he got wounded for the 2nd time
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 02:20 PM
Jun 2025

and when sent to England to recuperate. I've always wondered if I have an older sibling somewhere else in the world fought through North Africa into Sicily and then off to England to train for D-Day. Then fighting through France and into Germany. He was a good looking guy who played guitar and sang.

underpants

(197,139 posts)
40. I haven't seen that.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 07:59 PM
Jun 2025

A 60 pound rucksack was the standard when I was in that gear us one thing but you have to carry all the ammo YOU will need. That’s a lot of weight.

barbtries

(31,346 posts)
21. I had a teacher who was there.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:49 AM
Jun 2025

yeah he was scared. I think in my mind it became surreal for them, like we're doing this, we are going to do this, and bodies start moving and some start falling and there's a kind of shock factor but no way to turn back or change what will happen on this day.

thank you for posting Duncanpup. It's even more moving today considering what's happening here.

It's also a day of Mass Protest to support today's Veterans who are being fucked over by krasnov and co.
This link leads to a spreadsheet to one near you and anyone up for it:
https://bit.ly/dday2025

I'm going to the protest in Raleigh NC.

ECL213

(456 posts)
22. I can't imagine the fear Fred Trump must have felt...
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:49 AM
Jun 2025

as young soldiers moved out of their New York city apartments. "Who will pay the rent? Will I have to start renting to coloreds? At least there will be fewer Jews walking around."

JMCKUSICK

(6,595 posts)
23. Thank you so much for such a beautiful tribute
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:57 AM
Jun 2025

To all that served in WWII. Your vivid imagery really does capture what they might have seen or experienced in such a captive state
Thank you Duncanpup

SheLiberal

(87 posts)
24. Well Said Ducanpup
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 09:01 AM
Jun 2025

My father wasn’t at D Day but he was a mechanic in China keeping planes flying to bomb Japan. I never knew the man he was before the war but I would occasionally see glimpses of him growing up . Unfortunately most of the time he was dealing with some terrible demons from that time and used alcohol to keep them at bay.
I can not fathom the courage they had.

 

elocs

(24,486 posts)
30. My dad landed on Omaha Beach. He was a heavy machine-gunner.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 12:25 PM
Jun 2025

He was not a big guy but in the course of his war starting in North Africa and ending in Germany in November of '44 he won a silver start and 2 Purple hearts.
I have a short letter he wrote to his dad a few days after D-Day where he told him that he almost had 1 less son that day.
He became a 100% disabled vet and died at age 49 in 1970 as a result of what we now call PTSD.

Norbert

(7,851 posts)
32. If my dad was alive...
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 12:52 PM
Jun 2025

He would tell me one more time. "I wasn't a hero. I made it home."

Sorry, dad. You will forever be my hero.

Aristus

(72,509 posts)
33. My school bus driver when I was in 7th Grade had served as a glider pilot during World War II.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 01:05 PM
Jun 2025

I used to sit behind his driver's seat on the way home from school and listen to him talk about the war. He never went into any real detail about the things he saw and did (as real veterans tend avoid this). I can't remember if he ever told me he had served during the Normandy invasion. But the D-Day landings were the largest operation during the war in which the Allies used gliders and glider infantry. So he may have been there.

Hats off to Mr. Taylor...

biophile

(1,546 posts)
36. My dad was in France (Army)
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 02:59 PM
Jun 2025

I don’t know exactly when or where. The one thing he told me was that his troop got lost and they didn’t try too hard to be found ☺️😏. I wish I could ask him more about it but he’s gone now. When I was younger, I didn’t think of the many questions that I now have. 😑

You know, we were kind of told not to pry or ask. Only if they decided to volunteer information would it be acceptable to inquire. Many never volunteered to talk about whatever things they saw, felt or experienced.

Evolve Dammit

(21,814 posts)
39. You can request all records of his service. I did for my Dad. Took awhile but it was about two inches thick.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 06:45 PM
Jun 2025

yellowdogintexas

(23,752 posts)
53. You can request them and the Congress person in your father's home district is where you start
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 01:56 PM
Jun 2025

However, depending on where they were when they were inducted, their records may have been destroyed in a huge warehouse fire in Missouri maybe 30 years ago. My father's records were in that warehouse.

Modern restoration technology has made a huge difference in salvaging these documents. My sister is researching to find our dad's records. We want to get his Bronze Star documentation, if you have it you can get a new medal. His original was destroyed (ironically) in a house fire in 1988.

We do know what he did to earn it; at least he told my mother that or maybe his sister told my mother.

czarjak

(13,678 posts)
42. All for naught too?
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 08:44 PM
Jun 2025

My Daddy and five Uncles fought and served. Suckers & Losers after all?

Grumpy Old Guy

(4,389 posts)
45. Our 6th grade teacher was in the 4th wave at Iwo Jima.
Fri Jun 6, 2025, 09:18 PM
Jun 2025

He didn't tell us about it when he was our teacher. He was such a great teacher that almost the entire class came home for a reunion forty years later. That's when he told us of his wartime experience. He spent the rest of his life helping Marine Corps Vets and arranging honor guards at funerals, in addition to being a distinguished teacher and principal.

young_at_heart

(4,061 posts)
55. It's people like your teacher that should make us
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 02:32 PM
Jun 2025

think about the mess in Washington caused by a person who called your teacher a "loser". It just makes my blood boil!!!

pansypoo53219

(23,159 posts)
46. i enjoyed playing card at a small wi town's VFW when my grandma was visiting her sister. fun guys + i met a man
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 12:05 AM
Jun 2025

who was at the bulge. + he was 6'8". awe. my great-great uncle was too old for d day, but he served in europe past the end. i red his letters + he was not happy he had to stay.

C Moon

(13,735 posts)
48. Damn. The deaths. Even civilian deaths were insane.
Sat Jun 7, 2025, 04:50 AM
Jun 2025

Fuck the nazis!
I would guess a lot of the 210,000 missing German soldiers were deserters.

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