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Did they remove Padilla because he is Mexican? (Original Post) milestogo Jun 2025 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author denbot Jun 2025 #1
Seems like the comment was kacekwl Jun 2025 #2
Not "Mexican" - born & bred U.S. Citizen, colloquially perhaps Mexican-American or Hispanic UTUSN Jun 2025 #3
I think a lot of these decisions are based on appearance and not on conversation. milestogo Jun 2025 #4
Not to be querulous but I'm not getting the "decisions" and "conversation" parts. UTUSN Jun 2025 #8
"Bred" WTF? FSogol Jun 2025 #9
Uh, in the sense of "raised" or "nurtured" - and you're not offended by calling him a "Mexican"? UTUSN Jun 2025 #11
The op did not use the term bred. Bred is used for livestock, not people. FSogol Jun 2025 #15
"Born and bred" has long been used Retrograde Jun 2025 #17
Thank you very very much. UTUSN Jun 2025 #19
From google search: "of a person or animal) reared in a specified environment or way. 'a city-bred man ' " UTUSN Jun 2025 #18
But Kristi's THUGS made a knee-jerk reaction to how he "looked", Jack Valentino Jun 2025 #20
I am fully aware of KRASNOV and MAGA racism since 2015. My point is about "Mexican" as used here. UTUSN Jun 2025 #22
So noted and well taken! I meant no criticism of your point. Jack Valentino Jun 2025 #23
Thanks UTUSN Jun 2025 #24
Yes Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #5
Because he has brown skin. kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2025 #6
Partly that Jilly_in_VA Jun 2025 #7
He is US born malaise Jun 2025 #10
Thank you. - save me up above! UTUSN Jun 2025 #12
LOL malaise Jun 2025 #13
He's a Californian Retrograde Jun 2025 #14
The dead puppy and I would like to vote against her continued existence Jack Valentino Jun 2025 #21
Si, claro.... n/t Chemical Bill Jun 2025 #16

Response to milestogo (Original post)

UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
3. Not "Mexican" - born & bred U.S. Citizen, colloquially perhaps Mexican-American or Hispanic
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 06:27 PM
Jun 2025

Or stretching it out even more, perhaps American of Mexican descent/heritage. That said, KRASNOV and his minions take special delight from manhandling Hispanics - cf., erstwhile Univision reporter Jorge RAMOS being dragged out of a KRASNOV rally.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Padilla
.... Early life and education
Padilla is one of three children of Santos and Lupe Padilla, both of whom moved from Mexico, specifically Jalisco and Chihuahua, before meeting and marrying in Los Angeles, where he was born.[3][4] He grew up in Pacoima, Los Angeles, and graduated from San Fernando High School in the northeast San Fernando Valley.[5] He earned a degree in mechanical engineering from Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in 1994.[6] He graduated from the Coro Fellows Southern California Program in 1995.[7] ....

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milestogo

(23,205 posts)
4. I think a lot of these decisions are based on appearance and not on conversation.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 06:32 PM
Jun 2025

And to those who see all Hispanics as illegal immigrants, looking Hispanic is reason enough to arrest him. I think this is exactly what is happening to a lot of people who live here legally.

UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
8. Not to be querulous but I'm not getting the "decisions" and "conversation" parts.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 06:43 PM
Jun 2025

Did the officers make the decision (to arrest) on their own, were they given a go-ahead by somebody else, or standing policy from NOEM's staff to attack anybody interrupting? As per CBS, Senator PADILLA "identified himself immediately" and more damning, "he and NOEM had a cordial" interaction afterwards. But he is the senior Senator from his state, so nobody knew that much even after he identified himself?

In my cursory Wiki search, no sign that Dual Citizenship (with Mexico) is involved, so still not "Mexican" (national).




UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
11. Uh, in the sense of "raised" or "nurtured" - and you're not offended by calling him a "Mexican"?
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 07:00 PM
Jun 2025

Since "calling him a 'Mexican' " might be misinterpreted, there's nothing negative implied in *being* a Mexican, but Mexican refers specifically to Mexican (citizenship? ). "Heritage" is different. The OP's use of the word seems to be referring to skin color or (I don't know what "conversation" means).




FSogol

(47,665 posts)
15. The op did not use the term bred. Bred is used for livestock, not people.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 10:09 PM
Jun 2025

I also never mentioned the word Mexican. Terms that dehumanize people such as bred shouldn't be used on DU.

Retrograde

(11,450 posts)
17. "Born and bred" has long been used
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 10:34 PM
Jun 2025

when referring to people. It may sound a tad archaic, but it's not meant as a perjorative.

UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
18. From google search: "of a person or animal) reared in a specified environment or way. 'a city-bred man ' "
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 11:17 PM
Jun 2025

1- My only point regarding the OP was the use of "Mexican". I never attributed "bred" to the OP, used it myself without a thought to animal husbandry, merely and innocently in the idiomatic connotation of "born and bred".

2- As it turns out in the Google search, it applies to humans in my usage of raised or nurtured.

3- I never said you used "Mexican". Since you didn't explain what bothered you about "bred" and I don't have your frame of reference, I was blanked out about that and replied with the contrast between that blankness and your complete non-acknowledgement of the not-blank offense regarding "Mexican".

4- I reject your assuming, based on your wrong definition, that I would be motivated to dehumanize people, especially your implication that doing so would be intentional.

5- All that said, I don't expect you to be familiar with where I'm coming from, but we've been around here for a long time and while your DU handle is very recognizable to me nothing sticks out in what I've seen, certainly nothing glaringly negative, which is why your posts here knocked the breath out of me.

6- Since you seemed to think you needed to defend the OP from me, I'll add here that, far from disapproving, I have Recced scores of this OP's posts and have never disagreed with any, only this time correcting on solid ground and constructively meant.

Here's to returning to how we have been before, if possible.

Jack Valentino

(5,252 posts)
20. But Kristi's THUGS made a knee-jerk reaction to how he "looked",
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 11:21 PM
Jun 2025

while ignoring his self-identification....


Seems they need an "education" in what a real threat looks like

UTUSN

(77,795 posts)
22. I am fully aware of KRASNOV and MAGA racism since 2015. My point is about "Mexican" as used here.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 11:29 PM
Jun 2025

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,333 posts)
6. Because he has brown skin.
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 06:34 PM
Jun 2025

They have been going after Indians (from India) , Chinese, Cubans, etc., deporting them and imprisoning them.

Jilly_in_VA

(14,624 posts)
7. Partly that
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 06:35 PM
Jun 2025

and partly because he had the temerity to ASK ICE BARBIE A QUESTION! Why, how dare he!!!!

malaise

(298,036 posts)
13. LOL
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 07:19 PM
Jun 2025

They should identify the countries from where their parents or grandparents came. 😀

Retrograde

(11,450 posts)
14. He's a Californian
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 07:54 PM
Jun 2025

Born and raised in Southern California. A natural- born American. Elected to a full term in 2022 with a large majority. Voted against Noem’s confirmation

Jack Valentino

(5,252 posts)
21. The dead puppy and I would like to vote against her continued existence
Thu Jun 12, 2025, 11:23 PM
Jun 2025

................................................... as a cabinet office-holder....


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