General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsICE just cuffed & tackled NYC Comptroller @bradlander for asking them to prove they had a warrant to make an arrest. T
whow.
ICE just cuffed & tackled NYC Comptroller @bradlander
for asking them to prove they had a warrant to make an arrest.
The Trump Admin is going after elected officials in broad daylight. Imagine what they'd do to you when cameras aren't around.
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
Irish_Dem
(78,720 posts)B.See
(7,538 posts)Canada Kid
(257 posts)OKAY!! When are you Americans gonna get out there and fight?? This is open warfare on the population!
Ocelot II
(128,630 posts)What else do you think we should and realistically can do?
maxsolomon
(38,030 posts)The Canadian said it was OK.
littlemissmartypants
(31,102 posts)Doremus
(7,273 posts)There was 1 million in Boston alone.
Maraya1969
(23,383 posts)That's what I would do.
electric_blue68
(25,356 posts)slightlv
(7,229 posts)for years, we were told to "vote," that was our biggest voice and action we could take. Millions of us didn't need those words... we'd had them ingrained in us by our WWII vet parents, by grandparents and parents who lived through the Great Depression. We voted like there was no tomorrow (because the DNC kept telling us there wouldn't be one!).
And then, even knowing... or at least having an inkling... of all or some of the cheating that was going on regarding electoral laws and politics, the PTB just kept telling us to get out the vote. And when it didn't go our way, many of us felt they were laying it our feet for not trying hard enough. When from the highest to the lowest of the in Power, failed us. Merrick Garland failed us the worst, IMO. But Biden also bears some of the guilt. Although he made it a point to assuage us with a committee for judicial reforms, he blew recommendations off and disbanded the committee without doing anything. I loved me some Dark Brandon... he just didn't come out often enough.
What could we... common, ordinary people... do beyond voting, writing letters... it's all what I call "passive" stuff. But unless you're going to go full Tibetan monk and set yourself ablaze in front of the WH, what CAN you do? I hear the frustration in your voice, because I hear it in my every day and every night. WHAT can I do that will make an impact on a large enough number of people that it will change their minds, hearts, and attitudes? I keep coming up with nothing. And boy, is it frustrating!
efhmc
(15,995 posts)Ocelot II
(128,630 posts)we can do right now. We protest, resist, make noise, and we're doing that.
efhmc
(15,995 posts)vote. Many/most think it is fruitless so do not bother.
Hekate
(100,130 posts)
thanked God I can put off knee replacement a bit longer so I can still add my body to these numbers, and so on. So did almost all my fellow DUers.
As for you, I hope you are on the email lists for Indivisible and others, so you have some idea of what we are in fact doing.
Torchlight
(6,239 posts)might be a well-received follow-up to your sentiment.
NoMoreRepugs
(11,757 posts)More killings are coming IMO.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)who are those clowns in grey sweatshirts and t-shirts with masked faces......????????
Are they concentrating on blue areas and blue states???????
Tommy Carcetti
(44,351 posts)She ought to be impeached immediately.
AntiFascist
(13,713 posts)NJCher
(42,190 posts)no offense to inhabitants, but this state is not exactly California or NY.
LiberalArkie
(19,160 posts)Hekate
(100,130 posts)and badges, uniforms with insignia, and officially issued ID, we have every reason to believe they are thugs and imposters.
Pachamama
(17,534 posts)Its here
Paladin
(32,147 posts)Deuxcents
(25,141 posts)maxsolomon
(38,030 posts)It's a catch-all offense.
Buns_of_Fire
(18,950 posts)If you squirm when your arm is being bent in ways an arm isn't built to go -- your "resisting". If you try to wipe the pepper spray from your eyes with the hand that's being restrained by an officer -- you're "resisting". If you try to breathe while deputy dawg and two of his deputies are sitting on your chest -- you're "resisting".
Once those magic words -- "stop resisting" -- are spoken, they apparently have carte blanche to do do whatever the hell they want.
I fear it'll take a couple of legitimate ICE agents getting shot before Noem and her buddies get the message.
questionseverything
(11,507 posts)femmedem
(8,530 posts)New York passed the Protect Our Courts ACT: https://www.immigrantdefenseproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Community-FAQ-POCA-EN-1.pdf
ImNotGod
(1,194 posts)RockCreek
(1,215 posts)This is the sort of situation that leads to spontantous protests at relevant sites.
I'm a few hours away, but going is possible
NJCher
(42,190 posts)from my article, posted below (The Guardian)
snip
A demonstration broke out outside 26 Federal Plaza on Tuesday afternoon, with a crowd of supporters shouting free Brad Lander.
Protesters held up placards saying fascist minion and immigrants are New York while surrounded by a tight cordon of police and metal barricades. Public entry to the building was closed despite it being a public building.
snip
RockCreek
(1,215 posts)orangecrush
(27,826 posts)For Blue city officials anywhere ICE is involved.
Doremus
(7,273 posts)"The federal agents escorted him into an elevator, with one member of his NYPD security detail alongside him."
AdamGG
(1,854 posts)couldn't Lander have shot them?
Can you shoot federal law enforcement for arresting you?
Is that a serious question?
AdamGG
(1,854 posts)any ID's that identified them as law enforcement? They usually wear masks.
Fil1957
(456 posts)crap NOW and every day hereafter. This bullshit has to end immediately. Democrats' voices need to be loud and persistent. We cannot allow this type of behavior to become normalized.
LuckyCharms
(21,244 posts)by people getting hauled away, or by bystanders trying to help victims .
Again, not advocating this, but this shit is not sustainable.
Trump is going to get the violence he so wants.
hadEnuf
(3,492 posts)I think it's pretty clear where we are headed.
Jirel
(2,369 posts)Look, its time that Dem officials got their own, actually MEANINGFUL version of the GOP-required wearing the idiotic flag lapel pin, or their old fad of having to take Grover Nordquists anti-tax pledge to have a chance at support. In every city with an immigration court, our Dem officials need to be signing up to go challenge a raid every day. Make getting cuffed and assaulted a badge of honor, in protection of the constitution and due process. If they wont put themselves out THAT FAR, with all their legal support and huge entourages and media they could easily bring, to hell with them. Primary the useless leeches.
NJCher
(42,190 posts)(mayoral candidate for those of you out of the NYC area)
Don't ask ICE any questions!
In this ad he promises voters he'll keep this "schmuck" out of our business (trump).
sinkingfeeling
(56,961 posts)NJCher
(42,190 posts)snip
Brad Lander, New York Citys comptroller and a mayoral candidate, was arrested by masked federal agents while visiting an immigration court and accompanying a person out of a courtroom.
In a statement to the Guardian, assistant secretary Tricia McLaughlin from the Department of Homeland Security said Lander was arrested for assaulting law enforcement and impeding a federal officer.
Our heroic Ice law enforcement officers face a 413% increase in assaults against them it is wrong that politicians seeking higher office undermine law enforcement safety to get a viral moment, said McLaughlin. No one is above the law, and if you lay a hand on a law enforcement officer, you will face consequences.
On Tuesday, Lander appeared at 26 Federal Plaza to observe immigration hearings involving individuals marked for potential deportation.
snip
NJCher
(42,190 posts)to think they are going for a "viral moment."
Deuxcents
(25,141 posts)rgbecker
(4,889 posts)So just line up along the wall and watch the masked, no uniform "officials" arrest the political candidate, the immigrant that actually showed for his hearing and just leave the crying wife in the hallway. USA, USA, USA.
LetMyPeopleVote
(173,707 posts)Evolve Dammit
(21,373 posts)johnnyfins
(3,342 posts)Don't look like usual LEOs.
moonshinegnomie
(3,790 posts)anytim t hey are seen in a mask assume they are a criminal and arrest them. period..
lock them up ideally someplace where it takes ICE a long time to find them
ffr
(23,319 posts)This has to be a big business for those employed by and who run I.C.E. Then to ship house, feed, and transport them, sometimes to foreign shores, where there we're paying to house or incarcerate them there!
Ridiculous!
YoshidaYui
(44,832 posts)Out of control!
perdita9
(1,316 posts)The Gestapo didn't cover their faces.
Initech
(107,093 posts)Fuck you ICE! Fuck you Tom Homan! Fuck you Fox News and Trump!
William769
(59,147 posts)DFW
(59,584 posts)And no longer in only one direction. Officials will beef up their own security, some of which will have combat background along with the instinct to shoot back the instant they are unjustly attacked.
madville
(7,834 posts)The person ICE was attempting to arrest or to one of the ICE agents or both, that was a little more than just asking a question. If I had to guess Id say he gets indicted on an interference charge, could take a week or so for them to take that before a grand jury to indict him.
I doubt he gets convicted of course but what Hochul said about charges being dropped doesnt make any sense because SDNY issued a statement right after that and said they were now investigating and would determine if charges are filed or not.
IcyPeas
(24,703 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(173,707 posts)ShadesOfBlue
(101 posts)What happened to it?
