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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMaddow Blog-Trump expresses interest in rolling back the clock to bring back the 'Department of War'
Would the president change the "Department of Defense" back to the "Department of War"? He sounds increasingly serious about the idea.
In March, Trump and his team got the ball rolling on changing the "Department of Defense" back to the "Department of War."
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-06-25T17:33:06.845Z
Three months later, at the NATO summit, he suggested heâs not kidding about this. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-expresses-interest-rolling-back-clock-bring-back-department-war-rcna215029
Evidently, we can add the name of one of the nations oldest departments to the list. USA Today reported:
President Donald Trump suggested changing the name of Defense Department back to its pre-World War II moniker as the War Department, after the success in bombing Irans nuclear facilities. You know it used to be called secretary of war, Trump told reporters June 25 at the conclusion of a NATO meeting in the Netherlands. Maybe for a couple of weeks well call it that because we feel like warriors.
The Republican did not appear to be kidding. In fact, at his NATO press conference, the American president referred to Pentagon chief Pete Hegseth as the secretary of war and reflected on the title that hasnt existed in a few generations. Trump added, It used to be secretary of war; then we became politically correct. Secretary of defense, maybe well have to start thinking about changing it.
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/post/3lsgsjsiznr2q
Link to tweet
While its true that the United States had a Department of War, which was renamed in the years following World War II, its also worth noting how absurd his interpretation of modern history is. Kevin Kruse, a historian at Princeton University, sarcastically explained via Bluesky, Yeah, when historians discuss the National Security Act of 1947, we absolutely stress how the centralization of American military power under the new Department of Defense at the dawn of the Cold War was all about being politically correct.....
Im not making any predictions about the White Houses next moves, especially given Trumps limited attention span, but if he actually tries to roll back the clock on the departments name because, as the president put it, he and his team feel like warriors no one should say we werent warned.
markodochartaigh
(5,545 posts)Homeland the Freedom Experience.
/s
I really believe that this regime tries to aim for the level of the less intelligent boys in the sixth grade.
Irish_Dem
(82,336 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,818 posts)No limits on our halcyon past if you keep going backward.
maveric
(17,056 posts)Marx Brothers anti-war movie.
LetMyPeopleVote
(182,047 posts)The president insisted that he and his team were gonna change the name of the Defense Department. As it turns out, that isnt quite right.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-wants-rebrand-defense-department-department-war-rcna229303
The order, which Trump is expected to sign in the Oval Office, wont rename the Defense Department, but it will authorize Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth to use secondary titles like secretary of war and Department of War in official correspondence and public communications and during formal ceremonies, according to a White House preview of the order. Trump will require all executive departments and agencies to recognize and accommodate these secondary titles in internal and external communications.
......At a White House event last week, a reporter reminded the president that it would require an act of Congress to rename a Cabinet agency. He replied, Were just gonna do it.
The comment now makes more sense: Trump isnt renaming the department; hes wrapping a new skin around it like a cheap sedan.
Weve been headed down this path for much of the year. The first hint came in March, when the president published an item to his social media platform that referred in passing to the Pentagon as the Department of War. A few months later, he reiterated his interest in the change and even referred to Pentagon chief Pete Hegseth as the secretary of war......
On the other hand, Trump has also destabilized international alliances and institutions, announced plans to acquire countries that dont appear to have any interest in joining the United States, launched a preemptive strike against Iran, militarized his own countrys capital, mused about launching military strikes against targets in Mexico and Central America, boasted about a military strike against a civilian boat in international waters and is now rebranding the Pentagon because we want offense, too.
If hes still angling to get that Nobel, he might want to lower his expectations.
trump knows that he does not have votes in congress to officially change the name and so is playing a game here
LetMyPeopleVote
(182,047 posts)
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