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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStock market today: Stock rally leaves S&P 500, Nasdaq within inches of new records, Dow gains 400 points
This is why you NEVER sell out of fear. Bless the poor souls who sold into weakness in April.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/stock-market-today-stock-rally-leaves-sp-500-nasdaq-within-inches-of-records-dow-gains-400-points-200229154.html
US stocks climbed just points away from record highs on Thursday as the major indexes continued a furious rally.
The S&P 500 (^GSPC) came just shy from its February record of 6,144.15 to gain 0.8%, closing the session at 6,141.02. The Nasdaq Composite (^IXIC) moved up more than 1%, finishing within a handful of points from its own record.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI) also roughly 400 points or 0.9%. Nvidia stock (NVDA) was up 1%, building on its record high on Wednesday.

OC375
(1,104 posts)Feels like a lot of eggs in one basket. Entropy is a bear, and I hope it stays away until theres a better way to value a society.
MyOwnPeace
(17,609 posts)that hes such a great business man that he made all of this happen after his disastrous tariff bullshit - or is Wall Street just ignoring him and doing what they need to do for their own?
WarGamer
(18,859 posts)There's investment advice... market always goes up.
Too big to fail, gov't will ALWAYS protect the market.
edhopper
(37,519 posts)FBaggins
(28,762 posts)Note the OP - "you should never sell out of fear"
The S&P high point at the start of 2008 was just a tad under 1500 points. It collapse by half over the course of the year.
But today it almost hit a record high of almost 6150. That's a 410% gain over 17 years (over 800% gain from the bottom).
edhopper
(37,519 posts)don't have 17 years.
It took 6 years for the S&P to get back to 1500, and that was ONLY because of what Obama and the Dems did right after the crash.
WHEN the next crash comes, and Trump is in office, do you expect him do do anything to help, or just make it worse.
FBaggins
(28,762 posts)And you shouldn't be invested 100% in stocks if you "don't have" six years. Ten year t-bills returned 20% that same year. Then 8.5% and 16% after a 10% down year. If you were in a portfolio appropriate for your age - you did just fine even over those six years. You were probably back to even in 3-4. It's the people who panicked who suffered. Particularly the people who were 100% in stocks and then panicked.
There are also plenty who badly misunderstand how long they "have". They say "I'm 60 and retiring in five years..." without realizing that some of their portfolio will likely be invested for 20-25 years or more.
edhopper
(37,519 posts)to mostly interest baring instruments.
edhopper
(37,519 posts)is not panicking, it's being prudent.
FBaggins
(28,762 posts)There have been plenty of presidents who make terrible decisions
but that isnt the same thing as knowing what the impact will be on the markets.
Just a few days ago a significant proportion of DU was certain that war with Iran was going to send oil to $150 and crash the us markets. Instead oil fell dramatically and the market is hitting new highs. April was going to be the worst month for the market since the depression
until it came right back and ended about where it started.
Does any of this mean that Trumps actions were correct? No
it means that timing the markets is a fools game regardless of who the president is.
If he decides to gut financial regulations tomorrow - it will likely be a huge mistake in the long run- but the markets will probably skyrocket.
edhopper
(37,519 posts)As I did in 2006-2007 when everybody told me the Housing Bubble wasn't real and we weren't heading for a crash.
The Economy is shrinking, Trump's policies can do nothing but end in disaster. The fools on Wall Street never see it coming.
NCDem47
(3,523 posts)Wall St. pays attention to Wall St. Although, that tariff wobble in April sent a message. But, when it comes to war and conflict? Wall St. in modern age seems to carry on. Although....I am feeling like they punish Democratic Presidents more.
walkingman
(11,153 posts)Sympthsical
(11,114 posts)Nvidia in the 90s? Chompchompchomp. (We already had a bunch from two years ago and just bought more).
And other things. Im still 15-20 years from retirement, so turbulence doesnt bother me in the slightest.
Still, we got us some nice deals in that Trumpian mess.
WarGamer
(18,859 posts)When I saw that W-shaped reversal mid April... BUY BUY BUY.
MyOwnPeace
(17,609 posts)And those businesses that had to make major decisions - orders, sales prices, shipping concerns - they should just figure its all OK now and not worry about what the idiot might do next?
Sympthsical
(11,114 posts)I merely noted that the chaos presented an opportunity in the moment.
Nothing about this administration is ok.
Johonny
(26,598 posts)I don't trust the Trump economy
Melon
(1,694 posts)Johonny
(26,598 posts)But never to cash. A lot of high interest stuff out there and foreign markets.
edhopper
(37,519 posts)where I sold at.
You have great faith in how Trump and the GOP will manage the economy.
BannonsLiver
(20,855 posts)edhopper
(37,519 posts)The tariffs are working!!!
WarGamer
(18,859 posts)And I've been long since late April/early May.
fujiyamasan
(2,025 posts)But Im mostly staying invested. May buy puts on SPY at some point to hedge against a pullback. Or keep more cash on hand for dips.
So far the stock market is resilient in-spite of Trumps craziness.
Emile
(43,257 posts)Melon
(1,694 posts)Emile
(43,257 posts)since the bombing.
Melon
(1,694 posts)underpants
(197,176 posts)Melon
(1,694 posts)Due to the summer mixture that refinerys produce and people drive more. Especially towards holidays. Oil is holding so its either demand or local.
Ferrets are Cool
(23,047 posts)
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