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newdeal2

(5,597 posts)
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 08:44 AM Jun 2025

The housing market is in the absolute dumps

Here’s an issue that we need to make front and center:

The housing market is in the absolute dumps

Even as the stock market approaches an all-time high, there is a big dark cloud hovering over the economy: the housing market.

Why it matters: Home sales are hovering at historic lows, as economic uncertainty and high mortgage rates hold back buying.


Trump’s economy, the tariffs, and ICE raids are all making it harder for people to afford a house. It’s a complete mess and renting is also becoming unaffordable as a result.
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The housing market is in the absolute dumps (Original Post) newdeal2 Jun 2025 OP
grocery prices are way up thanks to GOP taxes* BoRaGard Jun 2025 #1
And saddling would-be sellers with homes that they can no longer afford. no_hypocrisy Jun 2025 #2
Krasnov (R-felon/rapist) did this with his flippy floppery BoRaGard Jun 2025 #3
Housing has been out of wack for more than a bit! Brainfodder Jun 2025 #4
Another big part is interest rates EdmondDantes_ Jun 2025 #5
I'm going to blame Trump newdeal2 Jun 2025 #8
Housing stock increasing - We're running out of places to build RandomNumbers Jun 2025 #9
So much NIMBY as well Sympthsical Jun 2025 #11
Democrats need an enemy. How about Blackstone which owns too many houses? OrlandoDem2 Jun 2025 #6
I think the biggest problem is income inequality. everyonematters Jun 2025 #7
Beginning in the middle 1980's, mwmisses4289 Jun 2025 #10

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
1. grocery prices are way up thanks to GOP taxes*
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 08:50 AM
Jun 2025
* what gop propagandists rebrand as tariffs

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
3. Krasnov (R-felon/rapist) did this with his flippy floppery
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 08:53 AM
Jun 2025

"It's less about mortgage rates, and more about economic uncertainty," says Eric Finnigan, vice president of demographics research at John Burns, the real estate consulting firm.

Brainfodder

(7,781 posts)
4. Housing has been out of wack for more than a bit!
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 08:56 AM
Jun 2025

The non-rich people have no shot except during bad times or inheritance?

EdmondDantes_

(2,058 posts)
5. Another big part is interest rates
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:01 AM
Jun 2025

But rent prices went up before Trump. It's our housing stock not increasing as much as our population. It's not something you can simply blame on Trump.

Here in very blue Massachusetts we have cities resisting the MBTA Communities Act requiring at least one zoning district where multi-family housing is freely allowed close to public transit.

newdeal2

(5,597 posts)
8. I'm going to blame Trump
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:13 AM
Jun 2025

If he can blame us for the price of eggs and win, then we need to do the same. Keep it simple.

And yes he is making the problem a lot worse. His economic policies are creating business uncertainty which is preventing the Fed from lowering rates. He is making things more expensive with tariffs and targeting immigrants.

RandomNumbers

(19,263 posts)
9. Housing stock increasing - We're running out of places to build
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:19 AM
Jun 2025

Well, for people who care about and understand natural ecosystems at all, we ran out a long time ago.

What humanity needs is politicians and economists who can navigate downsizing population and reversing habitat destruction.

Yeah, I'll get on with the day and stop fantasizing now ...

Sympthsical

(11,106 posts)
11. So much NIMBY as well
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:31 AM
Jun 2025

In the Bay Area it is an absolute battle to get more housing built. I live in a suburban enclave that has plenty of room for construction, but every time approval comes up, my neighbors flood the city council and any public official who will listen to prevent it.

And there has been some wild shit. They wanted to build two apartment buildings on an empty lot. There's a school nearby. Suddenly, Nextdoor was full of the crazies. "But what if someone wants to shoot at the children from the balconies?!!!!"

Whut. (And they're now building the apartments anyway, thankfully).

I'm all for building more housing. People need somewhere to live. The affordability crisis is completely out of pocket. Wall Street needs to be unlatched from housing as investment vehicle. It's allowing the rich to create a class of perpetual renters with no hope of owning their own home.

I'm just so tired of my virtue signalling neighbors.

"Oh, California needs housing. The poor and working classes need somewhere to live. We care. Deeply."
"What if we built housing in your neighborhood?"
"I told you at the last meeting you can die in a fire! Stop bringing it up!"

Every single time. Like clockwork.

I live in Solano County and am currently watching that Forever California project shitshow. That is at least crazy enough to be amusing.

OrlandoDem2

(3,241 posts)
6. Democrats need an enemy. How about Blackstone which owns too many houses?
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:02 AM
Jun 2025

Turn them into a scapegoat (because buying up so many homes doesn’t help). They are a housing monopoly!

everyonematters

(4,251 posts)
7. I think the biggest problem is income inequality.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:13 AM
Jun 2025

People don't have any disposable income to buy anything. That stunts the whole economy. Trump's tariffs and deportations are making it worse. There are too many homeless, too many people struggling. The fight against income inequality needs to be global with the powers at be, in effect, pitting one nation against another. Another thing that will make it worse, is the crypto scam. One thing that can be done, is a nationwide mandatory minimum wage. An economic agenda without that, is a tiger with no teeth. It's useless. I listened to Slotkin's speech, and she never even mentioned it.

mwmisses4289

(4,708 posts)
10. Beginning in the middle 1980's,
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:28 AM
Jun 2025

housing prices began skyrocketing. Living in Seattle at the time, I watched as homes in good neighborhoods went from around $80,000 to almost double that in less than two years. It was so bad that when a home under a 100,000 hit the market, it would be sold before the ad had been up for an hour. Some were selling without ever coming on the market at all.
The real basic reason for this? Greed. Plain and simple greed. Housing in america is not seen as the basic right it is, but as a privilege. Seen as a privilege, coupled with the twisted prosperity gospel nonsense that many so called evangelical christian churches preach and greed, it is no longer an affordable option to buy for many.

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