Marc Maron Concedes Victory to Anti-Woke Comics: 'Hope Those Jokes Were Worth It'

[Swede]

As Marc Maron ends his legendary run on the WTF podcast, he’s decided to go out with a bang, not a whimper. In his latest episode, Maron unleashed holy hellfire on “all these anti-woke comics” while acknowledging that those comedians had accomplished exactly what they wanted.

“I see ‘em around still doing trans jokes,” he said. “You won. The trans people have no right to live the life they want. In some states, it’s legislated. In others, it’s just based in fear.”

“Same with women,” Maron said. “Anti-woke policy has destroyed any sort of pathway to try to give the vulnerable and the marginalized a leg up in the world, under this umbrella of anti-woke, which was the big to-do with all the comics.”


https://www.cracked.com/article_47098_marc-maron-concedes-victory-to-anti-woke-comics-hope-those-jokes-were-worth-it.html?

[newdeal2]

1. He is 100% right

And sadly these comics have no self-awareness so they don’t see the problem of only picking on the “little guy” with their jokes.

[Swede]

2. Punching down is never funny.

Never.

[Hugin]

4. They'll just punch down lower...

Like making fun of a disabled journalist. Oh, wait… We’re already there.

[Torchlight]

3. Satire punches up. Bullies punch down

And enthusiasts pretend a false equivalence.

[FalloutShelter]

7. Exactly right.

[Seeking Serenity]

23. Are Jewish jokes punching up or punching down?

Or does that depend on where the joke is told?

[Torchlight]

24. I can only answer for myself.

And my answer to me would be to avoid false equivalencies.

[ms liberty]

5. I love Marc Maron, have since Air America. Mark and Marc saved me

The day after Kerry lost. I was completely bereft. I had no idea then what we had in store and I thought W was the worst thing ever. I should have saved some of my energy.

[OMGWTF]

17. GWB -- I'm the worst US president ever! DJT -- Hold my beer!

[FalloutShelter]

6. Thank you Mark.

So sick of the sanctimony of the “ fuck em if they can’t take a joke”, crowd.

You can be funny and maintain your humanity.

[Phormio]

8. Question:

What’s the difference between being “woke”, and being “polite”?

[Swede]

10. Polite is agreeing to disagree?

Woke definition on wiki: Woke is an adjective derived from African-American English used since the 1930s or earlier to refer to awareness of racial prejudice and discrimination, often in the construction stay woke. The term acquired political connotations by the 1970s and gained further popularity in the 2010s with the hashtag #staywoke. Over time, woke came to be used to refer to a broader awareness of social inequalities such as sexism and denial of LGBTQ rights. Woke has also been used as shorthand for some ideas of the American Left involving identity politics and social justice, such as white privilege and reparations for slavery in the United States.

[hot2na]

11. Woke does not really mean anything

You remember the anti woke author who wrote a book about woke but when interviwed on TV, she could not define what woke was. (See below link)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2023/03/16/anti-woke-author-who-cant-define-woke-goes-viral/

[judy]

13. "woke" means being aware and awake...

Woke is a good thing, and we should defend the term.
No wonder they can't define their view of the term, there is nothing bad about it.

[Duncan Grant]

18. This has a whiff of trolling. Is that how you meant it?

Woke absolutely has meaning. More importantly, it has *context*.

[hot2na]

25. Trolling. WTF

No trolling, Please dont misunderstand.

I posted the link to show that they dont care about the meaning of woke. If you havent read the attached link or seen the embedded I recommend it.

The whole anti woke phenomena is just a way for them to project the word woke toward whatever make believe grievance they have against the left. If you ask 99 different MAGAs what woke is, you would get 99 different answers.

Quibling over the definition of woke is missing that point.

[Duncan Grant]

27. Glad I asked.

I misunderstood, I thought you were telling readers of this thread that woke has no meaning. Instead, you’re pointing out that right-wingers complain about many things, like Marxism, and they know absolutely nothing about Marxism. MTG is the poster child illustrating your original point above. 👋

[Torchlight]

16. Response: What do you think the difference is?

[Scrivener7]

21. I get your meaning. At its most basic, woke is treating people the way they have requested to be treated. And

doing it willingly with the understanding they have the right to be treated that way.

And at their most basic, that's also simply what good manners are.

[hot2na]

9. Bill Mahr is one of the worst

Long before he kissed the ring, Maher was an anti woke comedian. I Have not watched him in years,. He may be headed down the Dennis Miller road to comic irrelevance if he keeps it up.

[JI7]

12. The thing is there isn't much comedy in any of it

It's mostly just them talking about how they hate them and attacking them.

[Martin68]

14. The reason I turned away from Mahr.

[moniss]

15. Yes I've seen the supposed "humor" from these

people and with them it's always "It's just a joke!!". But they don't see the reinforcement they do to the bigots in the audience and they don't see the suicides, assaults, effects of job discrimination etc.

[FakeNoose]

19. I wish he would call those comics out by name ... they deserve to be shamed

A certain amount of rudeness is expected in comedy these days, I guess. Maybe we don't all find rudeness funny, but tastes have changed over the years.

Remember when comedians like Don Rickles would insult people in a humorous, good-natured way and even the ones who were insulted laughed along with the audience? There's no good-natured chuckling any more, it's just in-your-face angry diatribes. Why do people find that funny? How are they being entertained?

I don't get it, I must be old-fashioned.

[Qutzupalotl]

22. I was a kid when I first saw Rickles

— like around 10, and I didn’t get what he was doing. I thought he was seriously insulting people. Watching him as an adult— what a talent he was. When you keep in mind that he was just kidding, the most outlandish and semi-racist things were funny. It was a way to bring people together, to acknowledge differences without setting up a hierarchy. I think Jeff Ross and the Friars Club are carrying his torch forward.

But society is bifurcating. There are people who subsist on real racism and need entertainment that supports a white supremacist worldview. These are the people who took Archie Bunker at face value. They don’t get satire or nuance. And they have no interest in bringing people together— just the opposite. Hence stiflingly unfunny people like Gutfeld have an audience. Their jokes are usually some variation of, “Immigrants sure are lazy, ha ha!” Which makes no sense to us, but justifies their prejudice, so they eat it up.

[Upthevibe]

20. Swede...........

I really love Marc Maron.

I will miss his podcast....

[maxsolomon]

26. Don't know who he's talking about.

Dave Chapelle, I guess? Although his "punching down" is somewhat nuanced.