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Mr.Bee

(1,915 posts)
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 10:49 AM Jun 2025

This Country IS Ready for a Woman President

How many of you out there were raised by a single-mother?
If they were not unfit, you know what I mean, it was hard living up to their rules.
They'd would always tell us, 'I'll have to think about it.'
but they never lied to us, they never let us do whatever we wanted.
They never lied to us, and seemed like they always knew what we were thinking!
They always had to think over whatever you proposed, a movie, a concert,
'I'll have to think about it.'
(and you better be home on time).
They never rushed into anything, buying a new car, or renting a new house,
managing the finances, somehow it was always possible.
And they always helped us through adolescence.
They always found a way.
Those of you out there who can relate, know what I mean.
We Are A Nation Of Single-Parent Children!
After this insane racist orange man with white ears I would think the country would welcome someone completely different, completely opposite!
An honest, thoughtful, frugal, contemplative, female leader, not a ruler, that we can believe in, who will seriously think of the American people first, before the almighty dollar!
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This Country IS Ready for a Woman President (Original Post) Mr.Bee Jun 2025 OP
Voters who would elect Trump would not vote for a woman, no matter Ocelot II Jun 2025 #1
Greedy One Percent Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #4
Unfortunately the one percent isn't one percent of the voters - it's close to 50%. Ocelot II Jun 2025 #5
Both Sec. Clinton and Vice President Harris "won" but the millions of under votes happened. Botany Jun 2025 #2
Yes Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #6
And those that have been rigging the vote has it set up that after Trump unexpectedly won it could be Botany Jun 2025 #8
THIS! Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #22
According to one of the articles posted on "this will hold" sub stack Musk's A.I. people were Botany Jun 2025 #30
I completely Agree Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #35
And they called us alarmists for trying to get Trump brought to Justice for 1/6/21. Botany Jun 2025 #39
I hate to be a contrarian but I totally disagree. bif Jun 2025 #3
That's What They Said In The Eighties Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #9
Trumpers would go for a female Trump leftstreet Jun 2025 #7
Trumpers would vote for a populist no matter the gender SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #11
That wouldn't be an improvement, though. Ocelot II Jun 2025 #13
I'm Thinking More Along The Lines Of Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #14
Sarah Palin would have been in a subordinate position to John McCain. Aristus Jun 2025 #24
agree, the misogyny angle is way overhyped cadoman Jun 2025 #34
YESSSSSS SSJVegeta Jun 2025 #10
It won't happen in my lifetime JustAnotherGen Jun 2025 #12
I'm 71 Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #15
Comon People Now Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #16
We've tried two excellent women candidates who failed to win Arazi Jun 2025 #17
Then The Time To Start Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #20
Gore, Hillary, and Kamala all ran during Democratic administrations -- and lost. W_HAMILTON Jun 2025 #21
+1 leftstreet Jun 2025 #26
I See The Next GOP President Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #18
In 2008, I heard a black man could never ascend to the presidency. Torchlight Jun 2025 #19
Oh A Woman Can Never Win Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #23
Oh, jeez. You sound familiar. Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #29
The Dem nominee in 2028 will be a straight white male Fiendish Thingy Jun 2025 #25
Then why didn't they vote for two of the best candidates either party has put forward in decades? Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #27
yes markie Jun 2025 #28
The ONLY way a woman ever becomes POTUS valleyrogue Jun 2025 #31
It Amazes Me How Many Posters Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #32
future-president Loomer agrees 0rganism Jun 2025 #33
Ready, yes. Willing? JCMach1 Jun 2025 #36
Democratic Misogyny Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #37
Perhaps I should've titled it Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #43
I wish that were true Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2025 #38
Well, THIS voter is ready. MineralMan Jun 2025 #40
Thank You, MineralMan! Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #41
Eric Trump suggests he could run for president when his father's term ends Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #42

Ocelot II

(131,209 posts)
1. Voters who would elect Trump would not vote for a woman, no matter
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 10:55 AM
Jun 2025

how worthy she might be. That's been demonstrated twice, and even without Trump as a candidate, we have proof that about half of this country's voters are morons.

Mr.Bee

(1,915 posts)
4. Greedy One Percent
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 10:58 AM
Jun 2025
Don't call it the Republican party
Call it the Sycophant party.
Don't call it the GOP
Call it the cult.

Botany

(77,846 posts)
2. Both Sec. Clinton and Vice President Harris "won" but the millions of under votes happened.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 10:56 AM
Jun 2025

She Won, Part IV: And So Did Hillary. The Red Flags That Became Red Carpets.

We’ve already shared the astronomically improbable statistics from the 2024 election. We know Kamala Harris won. And the numbers you’re about to see are just as staggering. This isn’t about “unlikable candidates,” hacked emails, or mean tweets. It’s about the data.

Because when you strip away the noise and run the numbers—paired with fox-in-the-henhouse oversight—what emerges isn’t just suspicious. It’s mathematically impossible to ignore. And what we’re living through right now, both in the U.S. and around the world, was made possible by the silence after the 2016 election.

Snip

The 2016 election data reveals a widespread undervote anomaly that can’t be explained away by “unpopular candidates.” No, there’s a lot more to it than that. Historically, undervote percentages—representing ballots where voters skipped the presidential line—hovered around 0.5%. But in 2016, that number suddenly spiked to around 1.67%, more than tripling the norm.

The shift wasn’t limited to swing states—it hit across the board. Colorado jumped to 2.76%, California to 2.94%, Maine to 3.10%. Even red states like Indiana (2.59%) and Kansas (3.37%) showed dramatic increases. This wasn’t a natural shift in voter behavior. It was a statistical siren.

Snip

In unpacking the 2016 data, we found statistical improbabilities across all key states. But Michigan tells a different story. A race decided by just 10,704 votes recorded 75,335 undervotes in Detroit and Flint—most of which were disproportionately concentrated in Black, urban precincts where Hillary Clinton was expected to dominate.

Snip

The historical undervote norm is typically around 0.5%, but in Michigan that year it was a 14.4% undervote rate, odds of that occurring naturally are 1 in 10⁹⁸. That’s a trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion octillions. Because the voting equipment just happened to “fail” in Black, urban precincts—and thanks to Michigan’s voting laws at the time, the recount was halted.

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-part-iv-and-so-did-hillary

Botany

(77,846 posts)
8. And those that have been rigging the vote has it set up that after Trump unexpectedly won it could be
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:05 AM
Jun 2025

…. sold as people just weren’t ready for a woman as President or women just turned out in
high enough #s.

Botany

(77,846 posts)
30. According to one of the articles posted on "this will hold" sub stack Musk's A.I. people were
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 12:31 PM
Jun 2025

…. fucking with the data aka the vote on the front end and Peter Thiel’s Palantir people
were running a clean up program that hid any flipped or deleted votes so then the memes
could be pushed people won’t vote for a woman or people won’t vote for a black or people
just staid home.

Besides just the fact Krasnov winning seemed so unlikely but the way he went after the
pollster in Iowa that had Harris @ + 5 points let me know they were trying to hide what
really happened. They were cheating.

Mr.Bee

(1,915 posts)
35. I completely Agree
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 01:41 PM
Jun 2025

After they way trump conducted himself during the first term,
the way he handled Covid and let a million people die while shipping ventilators to putin,
the way he told pawns to attack the Capitol and he'd be right there with them,
I thought there was absolutely NO Way anyone would vote for him or how he could beat
A KNOWLEDGEABLE, FEMALE PROSECUTOR, VICE-PRESIDENT!
but that's all trump can do
cheat and BEAT WOMEN!

Botany

(77,846 posts)
39. And they called us alarmists for trying to get Trump brought to Justice for 1/6/21.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 02:03 PM
Jun 2025

How many times did we hear people say that not bringing Krasnov to justice will
empower him and the other coup birds to do it all again. And that is what happened.

bif

(27,226 posts)
3. I hate to be a contrarian but I totally disagree.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 10:58 AM
Jun 2025

I doubt this country will elect a woman in the next 20 years or so.

Mr.Bee

(1,915 posts)
9. That's What They Said In The Eighties
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:05 AM
Jun 2025

Last edited Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:44 AM - Edit history (1)

Geraldine Ferraro, remember??
Geraldine Ferraro was an American politician, diplomat, and attorney. She served in the United States House of Representatives from 1979 to 1985, and was the Democratic Party's nominee for vice president in the 1984 presidential election, running alongside Walter Mondale.
Shirley Chisholm, 1972, remember??
Charlotta Bass was the Progressive Party nominee for vice president in 1952.
Former Wyoming Governor Nellie Tayloe Ross was a candidate for vice president at the 1928 Democratic National Convention.
Laura Clay and Cora Wilson Stewart received one vote apiece at the 1920 Democratic National Convention.

Hell of a lot more experienced than what we got.
Time For The Country To Wake Up And Drop This Notion.
They Think Better Than Men They Act Better Than Men
and look at all the European countries being led by women!

leftstreet

(41,247 posts)
7. Trumpers would go for a female Trump
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:01 AM
Jun 2025

They salivated over Sarah Palin as VP

They vote AGAINST "liberals"

Period

SSJVegeta

(3,124 posts)
11. Trumpers would vote for a populist no matter the gender
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:08 AM
Jun 2025

Most would abandon a right wing populist for a left wing populist.

Ocelot II

(131,209 posts)
13. That wouldn't be an improvement, though.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:09 AM
Jun 2025

We've hoped for a woman president not just on the basis of gender equality, but on assumptions that a woman might be more humane and less likely to provoke wars or condone violence. Pam Bondi, Kristi Noem, MTG and Sarah Palin prove otherwise. Women can be assholes, too. In an election where the candidates were a Trumpist woman like one of those and Kamala Harris, for example, so sexism wouldn't be an issue, would the asshole win?

Aristus

(72,515 posts)
24. Sarah Palin would have been in a subordinate position to John McCain.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:41 AM
Jun 2025

Republicans want a woman in an inferior position. If she had been running for President, Barack Obama would have won in a landslide due to all the Republicans staying home on Election Day rather than vote for a woman in charge.

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
34. agree, the misogyny angle is way overhyped
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 01:40 PM
Jun 2025

Repukes aren't as encouraging of women running and abhor the idea of gender equality, but if a female MAGAT emerges and has fascist charisma, they will vote for her.

Most cannot imagine how popular race traitors like Thomas Sowell and Clarence Thomas are in MAGAT circles. They literally do not care about race as long as a person promotes white supremacy and christofascism.

I am immensely worried about an overcorrection due to Harris and Hillary not winning, because some of the most qualified candidates in our party are minority women. After TFG is gone, the repuke bench is empty of popular charisma. It will be back to Bushes and Reagans and the usual Fox News dough heads.

JustAnotherGen

(38,109 posts)
12. It won't happen in my lifetime
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:09 AM
Jun 2025

I'm 52.

Someday yes - but in my lifetime- nope.

I don't believe anymore. All that's left is a hard slog to a return to America. Its going to be ugly. We'll get back to America someday.

But right now? Today? I'm doing the Devil's arithmetic.

Mr.Bee

(1,915 posts)
15. I'm 71
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:11 AM
Jun 2025

and I've lived through the disastrous male presidents our country has never recovered from!
The Idea Is Not To Force The American People To The FoxNews Right!

Mr.Bee

(1,915 posts)
16. Comon People Now
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:15 AM
Jun 2025
The Idea Is To Want Something New, Different, Better!
We have to go with the GOP's Ideas a woman can never be president??

Arazi

(8,887 posts)
17. We've tried two excellent women candidates who failed to win
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:17 AM
Jun 2025

I wish we weren’t a misogynistic racist society but we are.

2028 is a must win presidential election year.

I’m not willing to risk another failure hoping Americans can somehow overcome our historic issues this time.

Mr.Bee

(1,915 posts)
20. Then The Time To Start
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:26 AM
Jun 2025
changing people's minds is NOW
It's the GD 21st Century for cryin' out loud!
Stop Livin' with this notion because daddy told you so,
They're smarter than men, they's better educated than men
and they make better decisions than men, as to OP.
Keep An Open Mind!

W_HAMILTON

(10,435 posts)
21. Gore, Hillary, and Kamala all ran during Democratic administrations -- and lost.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:31 AM
Jun 2025

(Bill) Clinton, Obama, and Biden all ran during Republican administrations and won.

America is very much a vote AGAINST something nation rather than a vote FOR something nation.

There is no doubt there is misogyny in our electorate, but *when* to run is an important factor as well. And whichever Democratic gets to run as a foil against the Trump administration in 2028 will be much more likely to win than Hillary or Kamala (or Gore...), regardless of whether that person is a woman or a not.

Mr.Bee

(1,915 posts)
18. I See The Next GOP President
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:23 AM
Jun 2025

as Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity. They Always have to put up a celebrity.
Not so much ad-Vance.
So, Beware.

Torchlight

(7,038 posts)
19. In 2008, I heard a black man could never ascend to the presidency.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:26 AM
Jun 2025

Since then, I've held fortune-tellers at arm's length.

Mr.Bee

(1,915 posts)
23. Oh A Woman Can Never Win
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 11:40 AM
Jun 2025
Because The GOP Will Simply Rig It Against Her!
Well I guess with that thinking we might as well all vote Republican!
Even though there is no 'PUBLIC' in 'Republican!'
My Dog, Where Is Your Fight, People?
Nothing but defeatist attitudes, where are those
willing to fight for democratic values??

Scrivener7

(60,065 posts)
27. Then why didn't they vote for two of the best candidates either party has put forward in decades?
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 12:18 PM
Jun 2025

We've been shown twice that the country is not ready. And we can't afford to lose again.

valleyrogue

(2,791 posts)
31. The ONLY way a woman ever becomes POTUS
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 12:40 PM
Jun 2025

is if there is a situation where she is VP, and the president either dies in office or is forced to leave or is Speaker of the House and both the VP and presidential offices are vacant.

Otherwise, no woman will EVER be elected president of the United States. It just won't happen. Sexism is WAY more ingrained than racism, and there are millions of people, not just the religious right types, who think women are incapable of leading countries because of their menstrual cycles or they are menopausal or post-menopause and consider them too "emotional."

This despite all the Himalayan mountains of facts to the contrary. Women have led countries and empires for thousands of years, if one includes monarchies in the mix. They have proven themselves time and time again they are capable. Many countries have been willing to have women be the heads of government, but not the United States.

Such notions as "women can't lead" are deeply ingrained in this country. We saw this in both 2024 and 2016. The GOP targeted MRAs, especially the young, white males, to support them. J.D. Vance's entire campaigning strategy was to go after the manosphere and talk like an MRA by trashing single women and those who opted not to have children.

The politics of resentment by white males cannot be overestimated.

Mr.Bee

(1,915 posts)
32. It Amazes Me How Many Posters
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 01:03 PM
Jun 2025
Seem To Read The Title And Attack Without Even Reading The OP.

0rganism

(25,709 posts)
33. future-president Loomer agrees
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 01:10 PM
Jun 2025

Don't assume that first woman president will be a liberal

JCMach1

(29,242 posts)
36. Ready, yes. Willing?
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 01:46 PM
Jun 2025

We just has two shots of that over the last decade and neither went so well.

Partially because people are too f'ing stupid to realize the shite they did vote for.

I don't trust the electorate to do anything smart at this point.

Mr.Bee

(1,915 posts)
37. Democratic Misogyny
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 01:52 PM
Jun 2025
I really thought I would get some thoughtful insight or at least some stories growing up with a single-mother.
NT

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(137,354 posts)
38. I wish that were true
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 01:54 PM
Jun 2025

But two out of the three last elections show me this country still has a misogynistic side.

MineralMan

(151,532 posts)
40. Well, THIS voter is ready.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 02:24 PM
Jun 2025

In fact, I've voted for two women running for President already. Yes, indeed.

Mr.Bee

(1,915 posts)
41. Thank You, MineralMan!
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 02:47 PM
Jun 2025

Imagine where this country would be if the president were a former prosecutor and vice-president?
You want to talk about peace and investigations ?

Mr.Bee

(1,915 posts)
42. Eric Trump suggests he could run for president when his father's term ends
Sat Jun 28, 2025, 12:30 PM
Jun 2025
Please do, and I hope it's against Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Jasmine Crockett!

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