Conor Lamb may challenge John Fetterman

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

Democrats are trying to figure out what to do about John Fetterman. One of them is stepping up

ENOLA, Pa. (AP) — Democratic Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania isn't even up for reelection until 2028, but already a one-time primary foe, former U.S. Rep. Conor Lamb, is crisscrossing Pennsylvania and social media, looking and sounding like he's preparing to challenge Fetterman again.

At town hall after town hall across Pennsylvania, Democrats and allied progressive groups aren't hearing from Fetterman in person — or Republicans who control Washington, for that matter.

But they are hearing from Lamb, a living reminder of the Democrat they could have elected instead of Fetterman. The former congressman has emerged as an in-demand town hall headliner, sometimes as a stand-in for Fetterman — who just might bash Fetterman.

“I thought I was going to play Senator Fetterman,” Lamb joked as he sat down in front of a central Pennsylvania crowd last Sunday.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-trying-figure-john-fetterman-040324017.html

[CurtEastPoint]

1. Conor Lamb

[SSJVegeta]

2. Hindsight 20 20 Lamb was the better candidate all along

[gab13by13]

5. Arm chair quarterbacks are rarely proven wrong,

We don't even know if Lamb would have beaten Oz, do we?

Something seriously changed John after his medical episode.

Fetterman suffered his stroke during the primary, had to cancel appearances, and still beat Lamb by 32 points, an ass kicking. Seems to me the people of Pa., myself included, loved Big John.

Fetterman went on to beat Krasnov endorsed Dr. Oz by 5 points.

Not sure how Lamb losing his last Senate run by 32 points makes him the front runner?

With that said, I will vote for a wet dish rag to replace John the way he has acted since his stroke.

[SSJVegeta]

8. You speak resounding truth in every single way

[Alice B.]

17. Literally just thinking how much I look forward to saying "I was wrong" in the voting booth.

[yankee87]

18. Same

Same sentiment

[gab13by13]

3. Fetterman was once a progressive

until something happened to him after his medical emergency.

I supported Fetterman, donated to him, before something happened to him.

Democrats do not have to nominate a moderate, at this stage of Fetterman's career I would vote for a wet sponge.

Do not mistake what I am saying, I am not criticizing Lamb, he is a good candidate. I am criticizing Democratic leadership if it feels it must nominate a moderate to replace Fetterman. If Conor is the best candidate then so be it.

[mzmolly]

14. Yeah, Fetterman was great.

He's changed quite a bit since his medical issue.

[marble falls]

4. I was afraid that this would have to happen. I pray Fetterman recovers.

[gab13by13]

6. I agree 100%

Today's John Fetterman is a different person than the one I voted for, that is truly sad.

[durablend]

10. He has recovered

He's showing us what he was all along.

[marble falls]

13. And sprang a severe stroke to spring his plan on us!! Diabolical. It can take years to recover fron a stroke.

[H2O Man]

32. Exactly.

And "recovery" does not always translate into being the same as you were before the stroke. I'm surprised that anyone here would not know that. One of my cousins has known him for many years, and she said that he is not the same since the stroke.

The human brain is a fascinating organ. We all have one, and thus have the ability to learn about them. There often are times when that comes in handy in life, especially when it comes to friends & family and a concept known commonly as "the aging process." Or not, as we sometimes see.

[Biglinda 52]

31. I don't agree

He had a mental health event post-stroke. He was in the hospital. Psych meds are not the easiest to keep taking because they have some terrible side effects. Is he still on his meds? Is he being followed up by his doctor? There could be a load of things happening that we are not privy to. Saying he is showing us what he was all along is very judgmental, especially since we don't know what happened. I'm disappointed in him. He should not be re-elected and who knows, he may not want to be re-elected.

[Oopsie Daisy]

7. Excellent news. Many of us tried to warn everyone, but not enough folks listened.

It's a long time to wait until 2028. But, Fetterman may yet resign for physical and mental health reasons. Time will tell.

[sheshe2]

20. Yes, we certainly did try.

What really happened when an armed John Fetterman detained an unarmed Black jogger in 2013?
Pennsylvania official chased unarmed Black jogger with his truck

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/john-fetterman-dr-oz-jogger-b2195561.html

‘Detained’ I guess that was the polite way of saying … at gunpoint.

[Frasier Balzov]

9. We need Conor Lamb as our presidential candidate.

Lift him on our shoulders and deliver him into the Oval Office.

Losing to Fetterman last time just burnishes Lamb's electability at a national level.

Plus Lamb brings the Key State electoral votes with him.

And, subtly, Lamb's name looks good on a ballot after four years of Asshole.

[gab13by13]

11. You forgot the sarcasm thingy.

Just a hunch you aren't from Pa.

We don't know if Lamb can win in Pa. on a state level, let alone win on a national level.

We know he got stomped in the primary on a state level.

[Frasier Balzov]

19. All it takes is a party level decision to make him the guy.

We valued the incumbency so much that we ran Joe Biden again.

All it took was a party level decision to make him the guy.

When that belatedly looked like a losing decision, we swapped in his vice president.

All it took was a party level decision to make her the lady.

Conor Lamb is my first choice (and my stalking horse) until I can be convinced that there's a better chance to ascend to the presidency with any previously elected Democratic public figure (with as cool a name to attract votes).

[mdbl]

12. Can't they do a recall petition?

I don't know the laws in Pennsylvania well enough.

[marble falls]

15. Michigan laws prevail here.

[Festivito]

22. Isn't it my MI: a. 2 year terms. b. Can't recall in first year or last year.

Thank you, Republicans!

[Hassin Bin Sober]

16. Can't recall congress/senate (federal). Doesn't matter which state.

[Celerity]

25. correct

https://www.cga.ct.gov/PS98/rpt%5Colr%5Chtm/98-R-1540.htm

December 24, 1998

98-R-1540

RECALL OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS


By: Mary M. Janicki, Principal Analyst

You want to know whether voters in a state can recall a member of the United States Congress.

No, they cannot. Any attempt by a state to recall a member of Congress is prohibited by the Federal Constitution. A vacancy in the office of U.S. senator or representative can be created only by the incumbent's death or resignation, the expiration of his term, or some direct action of the body (the Senate or the House of Representatives) which is empowered to expel members (Burton v. U.S. 202 US 344, at 369).

There is no constitutional authority to hold a special election that would be required to fill a seat in the event a member was recalled. Article I, section 4 of the Federal Constitution relating to the time for holding a regular election and Article XVII of the Amendments on holding a special election only when a vacancy exists combine to preclude an election to replace a member of Congress who had been recalled. Federal constitutional provisions supersede any state recall procedures for these offices.

[ShazzieB]

29. Exactly.

I wish this fact would sink in more widely. This question tends to come up much more frequently than it should need to, imo.

Maybe it's just because I'm from a state where very few elected offices are recallable, but it gets on my nerves when people immediately jump to that as a possible solution when someone like Fetterman messes up.

[Joinfortmill]

21. GOOD!

[Celerity]

23. Fetterman needs to go but there are better options than the No Labels Problem Solver Lamb, who voted with Trump

almost 70 per cent of the time in the 115th Congress.

[orangecrush]

24. Good

[bucolic_frolic]

27. I liked him but then my instinct is to trust politicians in suits.

Fetterman was always suspect in my little world, PA does not produce closet liberals in small towns or cities. But that's my distorted lens.

[Skittles]

28. Fetterman really needs to take a long vacation

yes indeed

[Akakoji]

30. Great. News.

Always liked the guy. A lot.

[Cha]

33. Excellent.. I wanted Conor Lamb in the First Place

but was told "Fetterman was more progressive".. how did work out?

TY

[Paladin]

34. Glad to hear it.

Fetterman is nothing but a hindrance to Democrats, at this point.

[mcar]

35. He was the better candidate

but was tagged as too conservative. Funny how the “progressive” is the one not supporting the party and our values.

[asm128]

36. Can't we do better than either?

Lamb is quite conservative. Voted for Trump policies more than 20% of the time.

[Celerity]

38. He voted with Trump almost 70 per cent of the time in the 115th Congress

Fetterman needs to go, but we can do better than No Labels Problem Solver Lamb.


Conor Lamb Is a Centrist in Sheep’s Clothing

In spite of branding himself as a true-blue Democrat, the Pennsylvania representative has allied himself with Joe Manchin, voted with Republicans, and taken money from the fossil fuel industry.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/conor-lamb-manchin/

Representative Conor Lamb (D-Pa.), and Senator Joe Manchin (D-W. Va.) talk before the Problem Solvers Caucus news conference on the infrastructure deal outside of the Capitol on Friday, July 30, 2021.
(Bill Clark / CQ-Roll Call, Inc. / Getty Images)

Last weekend, Representative Conor Lamb, a frontline Democrat from Pennsylvania who’s running for the Senate in 2022, vowed to support carbon-free energy payments, a key climate provision Senator Joe Manchin is currently trying to strip from Democrats’ social spending package. Lamb officially jumped in the race in August to replace retiring Republican Senator Pat Toomey, in what is expected to be one of the most contentious contests in next year’s midterm elections. During his time in Congress, Lamb has repeatedly bucked his own party to support a range of conservative positions, including anti-climate policies. But since launching his Senate campaign, Lamb has sought to rebrand himself as a more mainstream Democrat who will advocate for his party’s policy priorities—all while distancing himself from his actual voting record and history in the House.

In 2018, Lamb was one of 13 Democrats to vote for an amendment repealing an Obama-era clean water regulation known as Waters of the United States, and one of seven to oppose an amendment that would reduce fossil fuel research and development funds. He voted twice for GOP resolutions against implementing carbon taxes. Most notably, Lamb is among the group of corporate House Democrats calling for the bipartisan infrastructure bill to pass without the $3.5 trillion reconciliation package, gutting the core of President Joe Biden’s climate and social safety net agenda. While progressive House Democrats were “holding the line” in late September to try to preserve the Democratic agenda, Lamb was calling on his colleagues to vote yes on the infrastructure bill. “Trump promised & never delivered,” he tweeted. “We can deliver. Vote yes.”

Perhaps unsurprisingly, Lamb has raked in tens of thousands of dollars from the fossil fuel industry over the course of his political career. In the third fundraising quarter of 2021, the first quarter of his campaign, Lamb received $12,100 from fossil fuel executives and $11,550 from fossil fuel industry lobbyists, according to filings with the Federal Election Commission. In the second quarter of the year, before officially announcing his campaign, he received $4,900 from industry executives and $6,250 from lobbyists for the industry. During the 2018 and 2020 election cycles, Lamb raised over $30,000 in campaign cash from fossil fuel industry employees and PACs, according to OpenSecrets, a group that tracks money in politics.

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Aside from his climate stances, Lamb has also joined Republicans in voting against other Democratic priorities, like decriminalizing marijuana, ending the war in Iraq, and delivering Covid-19 relief to undocumented immigrants. When Lamb first entered Congress, he voted with Trump’s position about 68 percent of the time. But these days, he’s a lot more careful about voting with his party. This year, he has voted with his fellow Democrats about 99 percent of the time. Whether the new Lamb will remain in existence beyond campaign season is anyone’s guess.

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[Deep State Witch]

37. I Told People That Fetterman Wasn't Senatorial Material

On DU when he was running. I was shouted down that Lamb wasn't a progressive.