Birthright citizenship decision: At most it impacts people born February 19, 2025 or later.

[Ms. Toad]

(b) Subsection (a) of this section shall apply only to persons who are born within the United States after 30 days from the date of this order.

In addition, subsection (a) does not apply to all people born in the United States to non-citizens

Subsection (a)

no department or agency of the United States government shall issue documents recognizing United States citizenship, or accept documents issued by State, local, or other governments or authorities purporting to recognize United States citizenship, to persons: (1) when that person’s mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth, or (2) when that person’s mother’s presence in the United States at the time of said person’s birth was lawful but temporary (such as, but not limited to, visiting the United States under the auspices of the Visa Waiver Program or visiting on a student, work, or tourist visa) and the father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth.

Yes, the decision is bad - mainly because it requires anyone fighting a law/executive order/etc. which requires immediate action to fight it in (at least) 50 states. (Potentially in every district - I haven't read the decision yet to see if it requires district by district challenges, or just state by state). That makes it much harder - and much more costly to challenge Trump's burn-the-house-down strategy.)

But it will have near-zero impact on who ICE can grab as non-citizens, since the only people whose citizenship status the lack of a nationwide injunction would impact are (1) infants under 4 months old, (2) born to certain categories of non-citizens, (3) who live in states without injunctions.

[Beaverhausen]

1. WAKE UP!

and please pay attention to what is going on. The goon squad will now take this as permission to deport whomever they please.

[SoFlaBro]

2. I don't think anyone is still fucking asleep behind all of this fuck-shit MAGA is doing in all the piece of shit courts.

[Ms. Toad]

3. The goon squad doesn't believe they need permission -

But it is not helpful when we concede something that didn't happen. Supreme Court did not give them permission today to touch anyone other than infants under 4 born to certain immigrant parents.

Rather than freaking out and insisting the Supreme Court just gave them permission to deport anyone and everyone (as several posts here are saying), speak the truth.

The legal impact of this decision on current deportation actions is virtually non-existent.

It is extremely significant on other matters that are largely being ignored in the freakout about the non-existent threat to multi-generation citizens. This decision massively increases the cost of fighting Trump in the courts, because we must now fight on a state-by-state basis. Don't make it worse by rolling over and playing dead on the citizenship of millions of Americans whose citizenship is NOT impacted one iota by this particular decision.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

4. A couple of Class Action lawsuits have already been filed to get around this ruling

Class actions are a way around this ruling

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

That was quick

There are already TWO new class action lawsuits challenging Trump birthright citizenship order

Suits designed to adjust to today's Supreme Court ruling

Including one by ACLU, which says "This executive order directly opposes our Constitution, values & history"

[edhopper]

6. They are under no obligation to rule on these

in a timely fashion, if at all.

[edhopper]

5. You really don't get the wider implications

The ruling says ONLY the Supreme Court can put an injunction on what Trump does nationally.
If they decide not to rule, or hold off indefinitely, Trump can do whatever he wants.

[Ms. Toad]

7. You obviously didn't read my post.

Reread the first paragraph below the quoted text.

[edhopper]

8. As I said

wider implications. Especially for future EOs.

[Ms. Toad]

9. You are essentially saying the same thing I said (in even a more limited way than I said it)

and you are suggesting that I don't realize the implications?

The legal impact on citizenship is a separate matter from the legal impact on how the courts operate. I addressed both in the post to which you responded. You, on the other hand, have claimed they actually decided the birthright citizenship matter. They did not.

[edhopper]

10. I said their ruling

allows Trump to ignore BC. And to continue to do so until or if the SCOTUS every rules on it.
It is a de facto ruling in favor of Trump. It is the suspension of a Constitutional Right.
If they cared about the Constitution, they would have kept the ban for 30 days, instead of lifting it.
I agree with Sotomayor on this.