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[Tadpole Raisin]

1. And make sure those laws have a 'SHALL be punished by' a fine, jail, loss of professional license,

etc., and update other laws to those standards as well. States should also mirror those laws so that if the federal law is broken but is ignored beyond a certain period of time, the states these laws were broken in can have a go at it and the government can’t claim the states are out of line.

I’m tired of all the ‘May be punishable BS’

[Fiendish Thingy]

2. Which is why killing the filibuster must be a litmus test for all Dem senate candidates.

Because none of those laws will get passed with the filibuster in place.

[Fiendish Thingy]

5. Anytime is fine

No more using “gridlock” as a smokescreen for inaction and excuse for lack of accountability.

If every senator goes on record with an up/down vote for every bill, they will be held accountable for the benefits, or misery, they cause.

That’s how things work in healthy democracies- voters hold their representatives accountable for their actions.

[Fiendish Thingy]

8. " The American system allows fairly radical changes in policy and law in short periods of time."

Not in the last 30 years, since the filibuster became weaponized, and legislation can be blocked simply by a single member emailing the senate leader they intend to filibuster/challenge a cloture vote, meaning they will require a vote rather a vocal acclamation.

Any vote banning immigration would be challenged. immigration was essentially banned from the early 1920’s until the 1960’s, with strict quota on how many from which countries would be admitted each year, with some countries - can you guess which? - having a quota of precisely zero.

Think about how communities of naturalized citizens might vote if republicans rammed through a law banning all immigration.

We can NOT go from being welcoming to immigrants to banning them and back to welcoming them again in 4 years...

We already did, from 2016 to 2020, with the filibuster in place, and are once again, with the filibuster still in place, so your reasoning that killing the filibuster would be disastrous for immigrants is not a sound argument.

We must not fear the death of the filibuster- it will set us free!

[Tadpole Raisin]

7. I'd like the filibuster to be in place as it used to be. You must stay in

the chamber and speak until you drop, thus ending the filibuster.

People like Ted Cruz love to announce they are going to filibuster and then go home to have fun.

I think those old white republican men and the not so old republican men and women just want to fill out the paperwork and be done with it. But if they really believe in the truth of their position they should be willing to stand there and speak to it or retire.

But they are lazy, don’t care, and wouldn’t know how.