America we knew is over. This bill is devastating. People will die. I might be one. There's nothing Trump won't shit on.

[Doodley]

[DemMedic]

1. And 911 Ambulance services will go out of business

I'm already bracing my people for some hard times.

[TacosUberAlles]

5. Private ambulance companies should be nationalized

Talk about exploitation of Capitalism as it relates to healthcare & patients, that's it.

[Cirsium]

15. Yes

My little rural county has public ambulance service.

[Mossfern]

31. Our town has a volunteer ambulance service

We donate $250 to them every year - at least.
This service saved my life.

[Cirsium]

38. Saved my life, too

Just 2 weeks ago.

[KT2000]

36. I missed the ambulance issue

Is this in the bill? Could you tell me what it does to ambulance service. Thank you.

[moniss]

40. I think it is related to the overall decrease in Medicaid funding.

A big portion of the reimbursements to private ambulance services comes from Medicaid. There will also be an impact to Medical Transport Services programs that pick people up for appointments and bring them home. What will absolutely begin to happen in a big way is for people to be refused coverage based on "review" of their files and they will just start terminating coverage and make people "qualify" all over again. Given the staffing cuts the "re-qualifying" will drag on and on. Meanwhile the doctors and hospitals will be restricted in treating patients who have no clear means to pay. The mega health corporations who own the hospitals and clinics will not be handing out charity anytime soon. Especially on a large scale.

[in2herbs]

2. I am against the BBB as much as anyone but if this attempt to stop passage fails the R have 3 more years to try. But

if this attempt passes and is signed into law by the felon what I don't see is any discussion about what will happen if the Ds gain a majority in 2026. Could not the Ds (in 2026) pass another tax bill one that would render entire BBB moot and replace it with our own version?

If this is possible, I think it is something that voters should be reminded of. If this is possible, the Rs should be reminded that their vote on this bill will not get them re-elected and that their BBB will be moot as of 2026.

[chicoescuela]

3. Tsf won't sign any Dem bill

[in2herbs]

4. True, but if the Ds gain enough seats we don't need F 47s approval for passage.

[Happy Hoosier]

6. No chance we get a veto-proof Senate NT

[rampartd]

7. ain't happening.

repubs are not losing the senate, even IF a show election is held in 2026.

[Wiz Imp]

19. Approval is not needed for passage, but it doesn't become law until

it is signed. He will veto it and Democrats have no realistic chance of having a large enough majority to overcome a veto.

[Gimpyknee]

16. It does not look good for the Dems to take back the Senate in 2026

The GOP will be defending 22 state seats - 20 of whom Trump carried by ten or more points in 2024. The Dems need to flip five seats. Thats unlikely to happen. Tradition shows that the Dems have a much better chance to take back the House, leaving a divided Congress where there will be little legislation passed. The GOP controlled Senate will be able to approve judges and Trump appointees.

[Wiz Imp]

20. Democrats only need to flip 4 seats

However, I agree that will be difficult. But it's certainly not impossible.

[slightlv]

34. I'd like to see a comparison breakdown

Of the votes after the mid terms. Wouldn't prove anything but it could add another chip to the "math ain't mathing" category WRT the 2024 election. Maybe if the improbable happens, dem leadership might open their eyes to more of its democratic constituents. Something needs to wake them to the urgency of change we're demanding.

[ThoughtCriminal]

8. Many things will be lost for generations

And some things that really did make our country great will be lost forever.

But I think the biggest thing that we are losing is credibility to the rest of the world. Even when Trump is gone, we have proven that we are quite capable of repeating our worst mistakes.

[B.See]

32. Exactly. America has definitely LOST

the right to condemn any of the world's DESPOTS or despotic regimes... that's for sure.

[CaptainTruth]

9. I'm convinced Trump hates America.

The GOP too. They all want to destroy America & replace it with something that doesn't look like America at all.

[Orrex]

11. You're right, of course.

But what amazes and horrifies me is how they've convinced their constituents that destroying the nation is the best possible future for them.

[Joinfortmill]

13. Well, they're gonna FAFO & the backlash will be huge!

[Orrex]

14. I'd love to see every last one of them homeless and starving in the streets

They'll blame immigrants and DEI hires and brown people in general, of course, but it'll still be nice to see them reaping what they've sown.

[Gimpyknee]

17. Let me remind you again about karma.

[Orrex]

18. Yes, tell me more about your silly pop culture mythology.

[Nigrum Cattus]

25. It's called project 2025

they wrote it down !

[LymphocyteLover]

26. He was in fact installed by Putin to destroy America

is there any doubt now?

[Dan]

29. I don't think that the GOP/Trump/MAGA hates America.

They just want to remove or eliminate all the people that they consider undesirable.
When Goldwater was running for President he expressed alarm over the Evangelicals influencing their party and government. He expressed alarm because as true believers they lacked the ability to govern because they didn’t understand nor believe in compromise.
You combine that group with the anti-civil righters and you thus have the current GOP - a combination of Klan members and NAZIs. (You can take your pick as to which group matches).
Now, you add Citizens United and you have the super rich oligarchs who are playing a zero sum game with the nation.

To me, it is just a question of when their front man - Trump, will ignite a firestorm of hate to justify doing what he wants to do, and what they want him to do but not have the blame applied to their particular group.

I said this before - think of your MAGA family and friends, honestly in your heart of hearts - wouldn’t they?

Historically in Germany in the 1930s, do you wonder how many decent Germans just went along to get along so as to keep peace. And by the end of 1945, when there was nothing left except the national shame of what they had done and who they had become - I wonder was it worth the peace?

[slightlv]

37. I agree, but I'll add one edit...

I dont know if they hate America or if they really just don't give a crap. They're totally apathetic and are, in reality, stateless people. They belong nowhere and think they rule everywhere. Nation states are just too provincial to them. They live in and thru the stateless social media companies they head. And they're determined to make the real world fit into their libertarian utopia model. Never mind what the rest of us want. We're just ants to be stepped on and stamped out when we consume more than they think is proper.

[Orrex]

10. And yet asshats will scold about "karma" when we wish his death

[Grim Chieftain]

21. His death will save countless lives

It is sad, but true. Just look at recent history.

[Gimpyknee]

22. Karma and the Catholic Church

To wish death upon a person out of anger is considered a mortal sin by the Catholic Church. And you, as your postings show, are filled with anger.

[Grim Chieftain]

24. So you would have given Hitler a pass

One evil person's life is more important than countless people he will victimize and kill? Not in my religion.

[Orrex]

41. The Catholic church means nothing to me

And your assessment of my posting means even less.

[SheltieLover]

43. I had to look to see if I'd mistakenly wandered into the Religion forum.

[niyad]

46. Your sermonizing and pontificating "moral" lecture posts have grown tiresome

in the extreme, and remind one of tent revival preachers.

[SheltieLover]

47. ...

[niyad]

48. Thank you.

[SheltieLover]

50. You are most welcome.

Well stated, as always.

[niyad]

52. Ah, yes, the church of the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Burning Times,

slavery in the New World, the Magdalene Laundries, silence in WWII, misogyny, and supporting and enabling pedophile priests. Oh yes, we really go by what that institution thinks. But thanks for the needed laughs.

[Torchlight]

53. One may wonder which is the greater sin, anger or sanctimony.

[slightlv]

39. I believe in karma

And the law of three... but believe me when I tell you I'd do anything to see him put down. I believe any bad personal karma would be canceled out by the good karma you'd be achieving for the whole. Too many have died already due to his ignorance and obnoxious behavior.

[Joinfortmill]

12. Yup, he's a pestilence

[liberalmediaaddict]

23. The America we knew ended in November 2024

The country would have continued to return to something close to normal has Harris & Walz been elected. But 77 million Americans voted for a man who hates democracy and loves authoritarianism.

We're never going back to the way things were before Trump slithered down his escalator 10 years ago. We've been taken over by an evil autocrat backed by oligarchs and christofascists who prefer to live this way and find democracy to be an annoying obstacle.

Even if hopefully we win back power in 2026 and 2028 it's going to take decades to undo the damage being done every day.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

27. I take it all of you wishing and hoping

for The Donald's death now think Vance would be a better President.

[Ocelot II]

28. He wouldn't be better; he'd suck in a different way.

But he's such a creepy, nasty wet sponge of a human, just as unlikeable as Ted Cruz, that he won't inherit Trump's MAGA cult and the GOP will split into factions, jockeying for power. Vance will have the backing of billionaire tech bros like Thiel, but those guys will shift allegiances to wherever they think they can get the most bang for their bucks. If the GOP splinters and if more Democrats start growing spines, Project 2025 could be neutered.

[Wiz Imp]

42. Right. Vance is just as evil as Trump and clearly smarter

However, he has the personality and charisma of dryer lint. He would never be able to command the complete worship of the cult like Trump. I have no question that the MAGA cult will splinter in multiple warring factions once Trump is out of the picture.

[DET]

45. "creepy, nasty, wet sponge of a human"

Great description. I’ll have to borrow that.

[Katinfl]

30. Vance is horrible.

But they will never kiss the ring like they do for trump. He will never have the cult following. He is just the lesser of the two evils. Either way, it’s bad.

[3catwoman3]

35. Aye, there's the rub. There is absolutely no one...

…in the line of succession who would be an improvement.

[Orrex]

44. One fascist at a time

It's unclear whether the purported couchfucker will be able to harness the raw, festering ignorance of Trump's KKKult of shitheads, nor is it certain that he'll hold the same sway over the courts and the GOP at large.

Regardless, being rid of Felon47 will be a pure good.

[SheltieLover]

51. Cults do not generally transfer their allegiance.

[niyad]

49. No, but he will not have the cult following.

[ananda]

33. Well, the Republican party turned into a murder-sucide cult...

a good while ago.

This is a culmination