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[Klarkashton]

1. It might have been possible for him to take this up

Privately

[msongs]

3. one suspects the comment in question was made...in public nt

[choie]

9. Indeed.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

2. What was Mamdani's "globalize the intifada" comment? The full quote?

[Nanjeanne]

22. He never made one. He said it wasn't language he used but he went on to explain the Arabic origin

of the word intifada and how it used differently by different people etc. there are dozens of posts here woth full text and videos with his actual comments after being asked about the use of the phrase. It never was a phrase he personally used. He just wouldn’t condemn t other people’s use as the word has different meanings to different people.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

24. yep I know. But as long as people are going to talk about "his comment" I'm going to ask what it was

[Nanjeanne]

30. Got it!!! You are going to be very busy.

[Mossfern]

4. Mamdani's explanation of what "intifada" is

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is not acceptable to me.
It's a rationalization and a little bit of dancing around the issue.

[SSJVegeta]

5. His comment would be far more credible if he did not take millions from Israel.

A hundred bucks tells me Jeffries never even heard what Mamdani said.

[choie]

10. That's probably true of many who are spouting off.

[Blue Full Moon]

12. AIPAC pays Jeffries and Booker

Aaron Rupar

Mamdani on "globalize the intifada": "That's not language that I used. The language that I used and the language that I will continue to use to lead the city is that which speaks clearly to my intent, which is an intent grounded in a belief in universal human rights."

[RandySF]

28. You have proof?

Or are you just throwing it out there?

[tritsofme]

26. He doesn't take any money from Israel. But go ahead and demonize American Jews

for the having the audacity to disagree with you.

[scipan]

27. see below "posted without comment" comment. nt

[tritsofme]

35. Ok...how does that change the fact it is a blatant lie that Jeffries takes money from Israel?

[Emile]

6. Mamdani is on MSNBC next up.

[cliffside]

14. Caught part of the interview, did not shy away from tough questions, thanks. nt

[AntiFascist]

7. Globalize could simply mean...

bringing in other Islamic nations to help preserve the Palestinian people and guide them toward a peaceful liberation. Palestinians, Iranians and Israelis all feel that they are facing existential threats, but that does not mean that they need to obliterate each other.

[Mossfern]

11. That is not what infitada means.

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https://www.ajc.org/news/what-does-globalize-the-intifada-mean-and-how-can-it-lead-to-targeting-jews-with-violence

The Second Intifada, also known as the Al-Aqsa Intifada, was a period of intense conflict and Palestinian uprising against Israeli rule that began in late September 2000 and continued until 2005. It was characterized by widespread protests, demonstrations, and suicide bombings, resulting in a high number of casualties on both sides, with close to 1,000 Israelis killed or injured by Palestinian terror attacks, including suicide bombings in civilian areas and passenger bus bombings.

The phrase “Globalize the Intifada” calls for people from around the globe to participate in rising up against Israel.

Since the phrase is most closely associated with the violence of the First and Second Intifadas, indiscriminate use encourages targeting institutions, and individuals around the world who show support for Israel, which includes the majority of Jews. Widespread violent actions against synagogues, Jewish homes, cultural centers and individuals taken in the name of resisting Israel demonstrates the need for increased vigilance by those advocating for Palestinian rights against using potentially inciting language.
... snip ...

New York State Assemblyman Zohran Mamdani, who recently won the Democratic primary for mayor of New York City, is facing backlash for defending the controversial slogan “globalize the intifada.” Speaking on The Bulwark podcast, Mamdani described the phrase as a call for Palestinian equality and human rights, arguing that intifada—Arabic for “struggle” or “uprising”—has been misunderstood and politicized. “The word has been used by the Holocaust Museum when translating the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising into Arabic,” he said, “because it’s a word that means struggle.”

AJC CEO Ted Deutch strongly condemned the comment, stating: “To further attempt to defend ‘globalize the intifada’ by invoking the Holocaust Museum is as offensive as it is outrageous.”

Ted added: “'Globalize the intifada' is not a call for justice. It’s a call for violence. It’s incitement."
How is the Phrase Being Used to Target Jewish Institutions?

Since Hamas’ massacres against Israelis on October 7 and Israel’s following attempts to free hostages and eliminate the threat posed by Hamas, Jewish individuals, synagogues, and cultural institutions have been the target of violence in the name of protests against Israel. ...

[AntiFascist]

15. I believe it's spelled 'Intifada' and it relates to the Islamic notion of Jihad...

which, in more moderate terms, can mean more of a struggle against repression than the committing of violent acts by terrorists. It's too bad that Islamic extremists have hijacked the meaning, but perhaps Mamdani can disassociate himself from the extremists.

[Mossfern]

34. Thanks, I'll correct the spelling (damn, I usually check)

At this point, it would be helpful to distance himself by acknowledging the negative aspect of the term.

[Mossfern]

39. From my 'best friend' Google AI

AI Overview
While
"Intifada" is an Arabic word meaning "shaking off" or "uprising," it's most commonly associated with the two major Palestinian uprisings against Israeli occupation. The Arab Spring, while a series of uprisings in the Arab world, is not considered synonymous with the Palestinian Intifadas.
Here's why they're generally viewed separately:

Different Contexts:
Intifada: Primarily refers to the specific Palestinian uprisings against Israeli occupation. These uprisings involved various forms of resistance, both violent and non-violent, to end Israeli control and establish a Palestinian state.
Arab Spring: A broader wave of pro-democracy protests and uprisings across various Arab countries, driven by diverse grievances like corruption, economic stagnation, and lack of political freedoms.
Origin of the Terms:
While some, particularly in Arabic usage, may use "Intifada" to refer to the Arab Spring, it's not the primary term used in English or widely accepted globally. The term "Arab Spring" itself is also debated, as some find it problematic for its Western origins and perceived implications.
"Intifada" carries a strong connotation of resistance against an occupying power, particularly in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

In summary: While the Arab Spring shared characteristics of uprising and rebellion, and in some cases is referred to as such, it is not an "Intifada" in the same sense as the Palestinian uprisings against Israeli occupation. The two terms describe different historical and political phenomena with distinct contexts and motivations.

[indusurb]

8. The Establishment Strikes Back

Coming to a political race near you.

Why do I get the fee.ing that most Dems are going to spend their time degrading Mamdani, rather than fending off Adams, Sliwa, or potentially Cuomo. God forbid a progressive takes power anywhere in this country.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

18. .

They're just asking for a reasonable explanation...regarding what Mamdani himself said. From my perspective, it's worrisome that Mamdani hasn't simply said "I apologize. I misspoke."

What is it, exactly, that he said? That he misspoke about?

[Celerity]

21. 'Nobody's attacking Mamdani.'

Really?

House centrist Dem Laura Gillen (NY) attacks Mamdani POST-primary with what could easily be Rethug attack advert wording

[Nanjeanne]

23. What did he personally say and what should he apologize for. He never made any comment. He was asked

about the phrase and has said it is not language he personally uses.

So what is the specific thing he said?

[fujiyamasan]

16. I don't remember what exactly triggered the first intifada but I remember the second one

It was soon after Ariel Sharon visited the Temple Mount in 1999 or 2000.

Each time violence endued resulting in terrorist attacks against Israelis, and of course more Palestinians being killed in retaliation.

This kind of violence cannot be romanticized in any way and terrorist attacks cannot be condoned. I understand Jeffries concern here.

Hopefully Mamdani will be smart enough to just focus on affordability and public safety and all the things mayors have power over going forward.

It puts democrats nationwide into enough of a predicament to deal with the “socialist” tag, but we don’t want to keep having unforced errors in terms of “phrasing” and play defense.

Next years elections are about a lot more than NYC. I see some getting carried away by Mamdani’s win, believing it’s a harbinger for what’s happening next year. I have no idea one way or the other, but ceding any more ground on issues where the other side is seen stronger, will make it impossible to capture the House (i may be pessimistic but as of now I don’t think taking the senate is even a possibility).

[WarGamer]

17. Losing the ADL... he's got rough sledding ahead in the election.

[Bettie]

19. Posted Without Comment

https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/hakeem-jeffries/summary?cid=N00033640

Hakeem Jeffries Representative (D - NY)
Minority Leader First Election 2012
Next Election 2024

TOP INDUSTRY 2023 - 2024
Retired $3,992,141

TOP CONTRIBUTOR 2023 - 2024 American Israel Public Affairs Cmte: $866,425

[RandySF]

29. What are you implying?

[Cha]

32. Yeah, I wonder?

[aocommunalpunch]

40. I'd say his decisions are impacted by his donations.

AIPAC isn’t dropping that fuckton of money for no return. Maybe he can explain it?

[Cha]

31. So?

[RandySF]

36. I think we know what they imply.

[Cha]

37. Unfortunately Yes.

[Emile]

20. Leadership should be backing the candidates

who won their primaries! The voters have spoken!

[David__77]

25. Silly

[Cha]

33. No, It is NOT "silly".