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mahatmakanejeeves

(70,743 posts)
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 04:04 PM Jun 2025

"Anyone still quibbling that this isn't fascism?"

Kevin M. Kruse
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Anyone still quibbling that this isn't fascism?

‪Michael Clemens‬
‪@mclem.org‬
· 2h
The White House has ordered the US Dept. of Justice to prioritize denaturalization: voiding the citizenship of US citizens.

Who will it denaturalize? "Any" case that it "determines to be sufficiently important".

Point 10 leaves the criteria opaque and arbitrary.

https://substack.com/redirect/169cee0b-e544-4d8b-9eb1-73f0d7c449ce

June 30, 2025 at 3:02 PM

Anyone still quibbling that this isn't fascism?

Kevin M. Kruse (@kevinmkruse.bsky.social) 2025-06-30T19:02:15.674Z
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Redleg

(7,026 posts)
3. Remember when the media criticized Biden and Harris for labeling Trump as dangerous?
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 04:34 PM
Jun 2025

It took the media about 3 years to start using "lies" to refer to Trump's prevarication. Perhaps they will learn to embrace "fascist" before it is too fucking late.

They also need to recognize that many in MAGA are fine with Trump fascism and even advocate for it.

mahatmakanejeeves

(70,743 posts)
5. It's important to remember that guys like Homan, Miller, etc, do not view immigrants as people. If they die they die.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 04:45 PM
Jun 2025

Reposted by Kevin M. Kruse

Jason Karsh
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It’s important to remember that guys like Homan, Miller, etc, do not view immigrants as people. So, if they die they die. Thing is, once the concentration camps get filled with the easy-to-kidnap people from car washes and Home Depot, that tier of people the admin doesn’t see as people will expand.

‪Nathan Kalman-Lamb {"Marxist-Islamist"}
‪@nkalamb.bsky.social‬
· 59m
Tom Homan straight-up thinks it’s fine for people to die in ICE prisons.
Reporter: There are reports of a 75 year old Cuban national who died in ICE custody. He had lived in the US for 60 years.

Homan: I’m unaware of that. People die in ICE custody. People die in jails and state prisons… The question should be how many lives does ICE save because when they go into detention, we find many with diseases and stuff we deal with right away to prevent that
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June 30, 2025 at 4:02 PM

It’s important to remember that guys like Homan, Miller, etc, do not view immigrants as people. So, if they die they die. Thing is, once the concentration camps get filled with the easy-to-kidnap people from car washes and Home Depot, that tier of people the admin doesn’t see as people will expand.

Jason Karsh (@jkarsh.bsky.social) 2025-06-30T20:02:26.569Z

erronis

(24,534 posts)
9. Mass graves. Lime. No recovery or identification.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 05:13 PM
Jun 2025

Miller's stroking himself right now.

mahatmakanejeeves

(70,743 posts)
10. There won't be any graves. The prisoners will die "attempting to escape."
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 05:13 PM
Jun 2025

They can hardly die from falling out of windows in one-story buildings.

Progress in Vietnam was measured by a body count. So it will be for Auschwitz on the Everglades.

calimary

(90,797 posts)
13. That's a good name for it. Auschwitz on the Everglades.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 05:24 PM
Jun 2025

Or Auschwitz IN the Everglades.

Either one works.

soldierant

(9,372 posts)
17. It's been clear for some time that these - people (I use the term loosely) -
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 06:44 PM
Jun 2025

do not believe that people they dislike are human.

Maybe it's time to star expanding the Endangered Species List.

canetoad

(21,029 posts)
11. How does someone become stateless?
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 05:20 PM
Jun 2025
There are multiple causes of statelessness globally; some people are born stateless, while others become stateless during the course of their lifetime. In countries where nationality is based on descent, statelessness may be transmitted from one generation to the next.

Discrimination

Currently, the most significant cause of statelessness is discrimination, including discrimination on the basis of race, ethnicity, religion, language and/or gender.

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Loss and deprivation of nationality

Some states deprive citizens of nationality if they live overseas for a certain number of years. States can also deprive citizens of their nationality under discriminatory laws, and increasingly under anti-terrorism laws, which may render someone stateless.

https://law.unimelb.edu.au/centres/statelessness/education/factsheet/how-does-someone-become-stateless

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,251 posts)
16. So when does Melanoma get deported?
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 06:15 PM
Jun 2025

8. Cases against individuals who acquired naturalization through government corruption,
fraud, or material misrepresentations, not otherwise addressed by another priority
category;

B.See

(8,863 posts)
18. Hate to say I told everyone so, but
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 06:56 PM
Jun 2025

I told everyone so.

Trump and his GESTAPO WILL detain, arrest, kidnap, abduct, deport or disappear ANYONE they see fit.

Citizen, not citizen, immigrant, US born... no matter, no problem.

moniss

(9,150 posts)
19. After the swearing in of Crumb The 1st
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 07:14 PM
Jun 2025

and the display of "bending the knee" by the assembled tech oligarchs many of us here began warning about how severe things were going to change and how quickly. I can remember being told we were being irresponsible and "just scaring people". Then came the ICE-American Gestapo crackdowns and grabbing people off the streets. Along with all of the other horrors in the last 5+ months.

We encouraged people from vulnerable groups to consider their own safety and that of their loved ones and to have a plan for "getting out" and living outside the US for awhile if they could. Again we were told that the courts would stop any such problems and that we were just needlessly "scaring people" or encouraging them to run rather than fight. We knew the targeting of the people from those groups would come and be extreme.

Many of us tried to get people to look at the lesson of history and how some Europeans waited too long and then couldn't readily leave and move about even if they wanted to. So now comes the "prioritizing" of stripping US citizenship and deporting literally anybody they choose. We kept warning people that their time to prepare and make a move was not growing longer but was in fact rapidly closing.

So now for some time when you leave the country and return your political views of the Administration and the GQP/MAGA scum are screened by US personnel in uniform with guns on their hips and they want to see what you've been saying, reading and things you have approved of.

Wake up anybody who doubts this will get much, much worse. Where do they think they are? This is the United States in name and memory only. The fascists are here and in control. Do people think the judges will save us now? Do people think they won't go after the citizenship of judges they deem to be a "problem"?

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