New Obama offer moves toward Boehner

[AnotherMcIntosh]

Last edited Fri Dec 21, 2012, 01:55 AM - Edit history (2)

From a Monday AP story which was posted on the home page of the news section for the San Francisco Chronicle on Thursday, December 20, 2012:

"WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama has agreed to curtail future cost-of-living increases for recipients of Social Security and softened his demand for higher taxes at upper income levels, narrowing differences with House Speaker John Boehner in "fiscal cliff" talks, people familiar with the talks said Monday.
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"Obama's willingness to reduce future cost-of-living increases in Social Security, government retirement and numerous other programs marked another clear concession to Boehner, although it came with an asterisk. The president wants lower-income recipients to receive protection against any loss from scaling back future cost-of-living increases, these officials said.
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"The new offer that was given to Boehner at the White House closed the gap between the two men considerably on a framework for a deal.
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"Earlier, at the White House, spokesman Jay Carney sidestepped when asked about curbing cost-of-living increases for benefit programs. The president "is prepared to make tough choices. ..."

http://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/AP-sources-New-Obama-offer-moves-toward-Boehner-4122556.php

[dkf]

1. "Said Monday"? Huh?

[spanone]

2. old news.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

5. That's from the home page of the San Francisco Chronicle, Thursday's edition.

Old news or not, those at the Chronicle apparently believe that the story is a contemporary one and newsworthy.

The defeat of Plan B does not mean that President Obama has pulled back from his latest offer to make more concessions.

[Brother Buzz]

11. It's was an AP story

Chronicle apparently believed that the AP story had merit when it was published at 2:46 am, Thursday, December 20, 2012, nineteen hours ago.

[Historic NY]

3. Psst...they gave up and recessed.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

7. So if the Republicans cannot pass Plan B, over the recess, won't they consider Obama's

latest willingness to make more concessions and cut SS through a chained-CPI?

SS is not related to the deficit.

How many more concessions does he have to make?

[frazzled]

4. That "new" offer was from Monday.

I don't know why this article is dated Dec. 20 ... it's completely out of date. Boehner rejected the president's offer when he substituted Plan B, which itself has now failed.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

6. That's from the home page of the San Francisco Chronicle, Thursday's edition.

The failure to pass Plan B does not mean that President Obama has pulled back on his willingness to make even more concessions.

Apparently, the editors at the Chronicle believe that it is newsworthy.

[frazzled]

9. Well, the SF Chronicle must be out at the Xmas party

Everyone here is saying the same thing: this is old news. The article even states this is the plan from Monday. It's Thursday today. The video at the top of the piece is from Dec. 17. Have a cup of coffee and think about this again.

It's not on the home page of the current SF Chronicle. The front-page story on the SF Chronicle is about Plan B failing.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

12. Interesting. It raises a question. Does the Chronicle have different home pages for the news

depending upon the server being accessed in different parts of the country?

In the upper left corner of the home page of the Chronicle that accessible in the Mid-West at the present time (Thursday, 11:43 p.m.) is this photo with the caption:


Carolyn Kaster / AP
AP sources: New Obama offer moves toward Boehner
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama has
agreed to curtail future cost-of-living increases for
recipients of Social Security and...

[DevonRex]

10. it's still from Monday

Don't care what edition of which paper. The quotes are from freaking Monday. Did you read the article or simply gleefully post a negative headline?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

13. Why, in your view, is this a "negative headline"? If President Obama wants to cut SS

with a chained CPI, don't you want to do so as well?

Why would you consider that to be a negative?

[DevonRex]

18. Bless your heart.

You try so hard.

[frazzled]

14. Let me google that for you

Click on the link and watch till it shows you. It's from Monday.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=AP+Source%3A+New+Obama+offer+moves+toward+Boehner

Also, look at this old DU Thread from Monday, Dec. 17, which contains the same article:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014340694

[AnotherMcIntosh]

16. Tonight was the first time that I saw it. Posting it seemed like a good idea at the time.

But now I can see the error of my ways.

[frazzled]

19. That's okay

Sorry to sound so adamant about it. I've made mistakes like that, too: it's easy to do with the Web so changeable and loosey-goosey.

[pnwmom]

8. "Curtail" means to end, and no one has suggested that Obama has offered

to end cost-of-living increases.

The question is not whether there will be one, but how to determine the number.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

15. Do you have a source for that definition?

The author of the headline apparently used the word in the same manner as many dictionaries, including The Free Dictionary found on the web:

curtail [kɜːˈteɪl]
vb
(tr) to cut short; abridge
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/curtail

[pnwmom]

17. To cut short means to end. n/t

[bigtree]

20. old story/bullshit sourcing: 'people familiar with the talks'