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demmiblue

(39,947 posts)
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:52 AM Jul 2025

Senator Mark Warner: Sick and tired of Republican Senators coming to me privately saying, "Mark, keep speaking up...

Sick and tired of Republican Senators coming to me privately saying, “Mark, keep speaking up, you’re our conscience.”

I don’t want to be their damn conscience.

I want them to vote their conscience.

Senator Mark Warner (@markwarner.bsky.social) 2025-07-01T10:24:26.958Z


Damn straight!
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Senator Mark Warner: Sick and tired of Republican Senators coming to me privately saying, "Mark, keep speaking up... (Original Post) demmiblue Jul 2025 OP
Warner needs to name these Senators or else it's all bullshit and I don't believe him. LonePirate Jul 2025 #1
Democrats respect the old Senate rules while Republicans have no rules. dem4decades Jul 2025 #3
As they say on the interwebs, "Pics or it didn't happen." sop Jul 2025 #4
name them jaymac Jul 2025 #11
And then what? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #35
So many phones, so few recordings. kerouac2 Jul 2025 #2
He should ALWAYS ask, "Can I quote you on that ?". If the answer is no, don't give them any more time. nt eppur_se_muova Jul 2025 #5
"I want them to vote their conscience." OldBaldy1701E Jul 2025 #6
Exactly DENVERPOPS Jul 2025 #45
How many goddamn times has he said this? Aviation Pro Jul 2025 #7
Warner wants to be seen by Virginia Republican voters as someone their party will work with and can trust. sop Jul 2025 #8
Sounds like he's chumming, the fish are wary. Magoo48 Jul 2025 #10
I don't think it's bs. I think he and other Ds are desperate to find a way spooky3 Jul 2025 #28
Name the fucking names then Aviation Pro Jul 2025 #30
What will that accomplish? They will deny it and be pissed off at him. spooky3 Jul 2025 #31
I agree. ShazzieB Jul 2025 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Jul 2025 #49
Exactly. Name them and shame them or STFU, Warner. VTderry Jul 2025 #33
I know it would be kacekwl Jul 2025 #9
So glad he's my Senator! COL Mustard Jul 2025 #12
As long as nothing horrible happens between now and July 29, he'll be mine too before the month is out! Pacifist Patriot Jul 2025 #41
How can they vote with something they don't have? Ray Bruns Jul 2025 #13
This is one of those examples that can tell you if you're in a bad marriage. Baitball Blogger Jul 2025 #14
Republicans will get a conscience when Mexico pays for the wall and tax cuts trickle down IronLionZion Jul 2025 #15
Maybe he should retire? Hornedfrog2000 Jul 2025 #16
What will name dropping accomplish? Will it change R votes? Nt spooky3 Jul 2025 #29
Three times asked MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #40
Term Limits and Low Pay Aepps22 Jul 2025 #17
I think they should be paid otherwise the best leave, but it should be based on travelingthrulife Jul 2025 #19
Age limits are an excellent idea. BarbD Jul 2025 #27
Commercial Airline Pilots DENVERPOPS Jul 2025 #47
Term limits maybe ITAL Jul 2025 #23
Then we would only have rich people able to run. LisaM Jul 2025 #25
Cowards bdamomma Jul 2025 #18
That is really pathetic PatSeg Jul 2025 #20
That's crazy, these people are lost. America sucks right now. BradBo Jul 2025 #21
Those same Senators whining to him will vote for it. Name the fuckers Autumn Jul 2025 #22
He needs to name names JustAnotherGen Jul 2025 #24
Republicans have consciences? GoCubsGo Jul 2025 #26
Do more than a sternly worded text. Exspouse them, say their names. Shame them in front of their own. nt Hotler Jul 2025 #32
I wonder if Mark ever considers that they may be playing him Bristlecone Jul 2025 #34
Just fucking name them! Bev54 Jul 2025 #36
How cowardly of them. stollen Jul 2025 #37
Then he needs to follow his own conscience and NAME NAMES in interviews all over the place. MLAA Jul 2025 #38
Ummmm, Mark??? People who actually HAVE a conscience do not niyad Jul 2025 #39
They want to keep their jobs without losing support sakabatou Jul 2025 #42
Cowardice is Their Second Superpower! The Roux Comes First Jul 2025 #43
This sounds more like angrychair Jul 2025 #44
He needs to publicly call out Murkowski Hassler Jul 2025 #46
I want them to HAVE a conscience of their own--- but they mostly don't. Jack Valentino Jul 2025 #50
He needs to name names. valleyrogue Jul 2025 #51
He needs to name names donheld Jul 2025 #52
Call those motherfuckers out! RainCaster Jul 2025 #53
Looking at you Susan Collins MaineBlueBear Jul 2025 #54
He's neither sick nor tired until he calls out their malaise Jul 2025 #55
Call them out and name them! Emile Jul 2025 #56
I wonder who he's talking about? Who are the chickenshits who want to oppose Trump, but don't? Oopsie Daisy Jul 2025 #57

eppur_se_muova

(42,528 posts)
5. He should ALWAYS ask, "Can I quote you on that ?". If the answer is no, don't give them any more time. nt
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:57 AM
Jul 2025

OldBaldy1701E

(11,566 posts)
6. "I want them to vote their conscience."
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:05 AM
Jul 2025

BBWWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Then you are wasting your time. They have none.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
45. Exactly
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:45 PM
Jul 2025

and just by asking that question, it shows the Dem isn't very observant, knowledgeable or reality based,......and has been oblivious to everything for the past 45+ years....

sop

(19,352 posts)
8. Warner wants to be seen by Virginia Republican voters as someone their party will work with and can trust.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:40 AM
Jul 2025

He's up for re-election in 2026.

spooky3

(38,878 posts)
28. I don't think it's bs. I think he and other Ds are desperate to find a way
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:07 AM
Jul 2025

to break through to at least a few Rs. He is frustrated with D’s lack of power. How can you force people with no shame to feel enough shame to do the right thing?

Aviation Pro

(15,769 posts)
30. Name the fucking names then
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:25 AM
Jul 2025

What loyalty does Warner have to any of these fucking cowards?

spooky3

(38,878 posts)
31. What will that accomplish? They will deny it and be pissed off at him.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:31 AM
Jul 2025

If naming names would work, I’m sure he would have named them.

I’m sick of anger directed toward Ds when voters failed to give them enough Ds to have majority power. Anger (and phone calls, emails etc.) should be directed at Rs and at their voters and people who did not vote at all.

ShazzieB

(22,883 posts)
48. I agree.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:54 PM
Jul 2025

I don't know why he'd bother to lie about it. His vote speaks for itself, and the votes of the Republicans are a matter of record as well.

What a bunch of frigging hypocrites. They should shut up and put their votes where their mouths are!

Response to spooky3 (Reply #28)

VTderry

(137 posts)
33. Exactly. Name them and shame them or STFU, Warner.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:23 PM
Jul 2025

This bs is his equivalent of Susan Collins' evergreen "concern."

Pacifist Patriot

(25,216 posts)
41. As long as nothing horrible happens between now and July 29, he'll be mine too before the month is out!
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 03:15 PM
Jul 2025

But I've never experienced a smooth real estate transaction in my life, so I'm not holding my breath. This has been too many months of outrageously stressful hurdles already.

Baitball Blogger

(52,729 posts)
14. This is one of those examples that can tell you if you're in a bad marriage.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:06 AM
Jul 2025

Husband: I agree with you, wife, your sister is a terrible, terrible person. She was wrong, you were right. But don't let her know I feel this way or she'll stop liking me too.

 

Hornedfrog2000

(866 posts)
16. Maybe he should retire?
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:18 AM
Jul 2025

Then someone younger without all the baggage can drop names, because we have nothing to lose, and it is starting to look like nothing to gain either.

Aepps22

(414 posts)
17. Term Limits and Low Pay
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:26 AM
Jul 2025

If there were term limits and these politicians got low pay we wouldn’t be here. They won’t speak up because they love the perks and the power the job gives them and they are more afraid to lose those than anything else. They know this bill is wrong but they are too self interested to do the right thing.

travelingthrulife

(5,599 posts)
19. I think they should be paid otherwise the best leave, but it should be based on
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:40 AM
Jul 2025

the actual work they do. If they only work 20 hours in a week they should only be paid for that...like us. Same benefits we get, none of this 'for life' junk.

I think they need to establish an age limit. People are active into their seventies and eighties but that doesn't mean they can handle the job. The hospital I used to work at had to do that because the doctors wanted to keep practicing into their eighties. Age related deficits were noted on some. They kept those that wanted to stay active in a mentorship program for fully active doctors.

BarbD

(1,496 posts)
27. Age limits are an excellent idea.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:05 AM
Jul 2025

It would force seasoned congressmen to mentor replacements. I know from experience -- at 87 -- that it takes me longer to process information. 70 would be a good idea. Maybe 75.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
47. Commercial Airline Pilots
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:59 PM
Jul 2025

have a mandatory retirement age.....it used to be 62...........I don't know about anyone else, but if I am a passenger on an airline, and the plane is having problems, I would rather have an experienced 65 year old, than a 25 YO at the yoke who has maybe 1-2 thousand hours.

I had a friend who United retired when he was 62, and was still sharp as a tack..... He had 36,000 hours with United when they retired him.
He got a small plane of his own, a cessna 210 centurion????? He flew all around the country for decades until he was 95 YO......
Of course he had to have all the continual testing a person needs as a pilot, on a regular basis, medical, skills, etc......which we should subject ALL politicians, of any age to, on a regular basis.....

ITAL

(1,382 posts)
23. Term limits maybe
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:14 AM
Jul 2025

Low pay wouldn't matter -- most of these people were wealthy before getting into politics in the first place.

LisaM

(29,688 posts)
25. Then we would only have rich people able to run.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:39 AM
Jul 2025

Both my Senators have been in office for quite a while (Murray and Cantwell) and the last thing Washington needs is for them to be pushed out. We would most likely end up with a tech bro or some right-wing sheriff type from Eastern Washington.

JustAnotherGen

(38,113 posts)
24. He needs to name names
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:25 AM
Jul 2025

Be the fucking bus that runs them over.

Receipts or it didn't happen.

Krasnov knows better than to place calls to or put pressure on the opposition party. He might as well.go scorched earth and throw these people under the bus.

These are unprecedented times. Might as well tear all sense of decorum down.

By covering for the cowards - they win. They get Krasnov's support in the primary.

GoCubsGo

(35,007 posts)
26. Republicans have consciences?
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:59 AM
Jul 2025

Could've had me fooled. Bunch of sociopaths--every last fucking one of them.

Hotler

(13,747 posts)
32. Do more than a sternly worded text. Exspouse them, say their names. Shame them in front of their own. nt
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:00 PM
Jul 2025

Bristlecone

(11,191 posts)
34. I wonder if Mark ever considers that they may be playing him
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:34 PM
Jul 2025

‘Cause he should know by now that this sort of whisper campaign they involve him in is bullshit.

MLAA

(19,801 posts)
38. Then he needs to follow his own conscience and NAME NAMES in interviews all over the place.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 01:31 PM
Jul 2025

niyad

(134,056 posts)
39. Ummmm, Mark??? People who actually HAVE a conscience do not
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 01:52 PM
Jul 2025

delegate their duties to others.

sakabatou

(46,342 posts)
42. They want to keep their jobs without losing support
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 03:16 PM
Jul 2025

Because if they speak badly about the mad king, they'll be voted out, or worse.

The Roux Comes First

(2,325 posts)
43. Cowardice is Their Second Superpower!
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 03:53 PM
Jul 2025

But I don't want to meet their launderer (apologies to Zevon); all the rub-off fecal matter must be hell to clean off their clothes.

angrychair

(12,545 posts)
44. This sounds more like
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 04:01 PM
Jul 2025

He is running interference, trying to soften the edges, for his Republican buddies.

There is zero evidence in the public record that any of them have any reservations about any of this. I mean many of them have stated they don't think this bill is harsh enough.

RainCaster

(13,892 posts)
53. Call those motherfuckers out!
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 02:37 AM
Jul 2025

They have no balls, morals, scruples or intelligence. So expose them for what they are- useless.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
57. I wonder who he's talking about? Who are the chickenshits who want to oppose Trump, but don't?
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 06:40 AM
Jul 2025

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