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babylonsister

(172,759 posts)
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:27 AM Jul 2025

Young Men Who Elected Trump Just Realized They Scr*wed Up

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Young Men Who Elected Trump Just Realized They Scr*wed Up
BUYER’S REMORSE
“They are turning against him,” Harvard director of polling tells The Daily Beast.
Leigh Kimmins
Reporter
The Daily Beast Podcast
Updated Jul. 1 2025 8:08AM EDT /
Published Jul. 1 2025 6:00AM EDT


The young men who helped get Donald Trump back into the White House are now realizing they made a massive mistake, according to a Harvard polling expert.

snip//

During the 2024 election, Trump won narrow margins in key battleground states after making an outreach to disaffected young men, using right-wing influencers and anti-woke rhetoric to secure their votes. “I believe younger people were responsible for putting Donald Trump in office to start with, specifically younger men,” Della Volpe said.

However, he also suggested that these voters feel they have seen no return on the campaign promises made by Trump regarding the economy and other domestic concerns.

“Younger people are quickly asking important questions like, ‘I thought this was going to improve my economic standing. What about me?’”
said Della Volpe, who advised Joe Biden during his 2020 election campaign and worked with a PAC that tried to rally support for Kamala Harris in 2024.

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/young-men-who-elected-trump-just-realized-they-scrwed-up/

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Young Men Who Elected Trump Just Realized They Scr*wed Up (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2025 OP
Men can be so gullible and prejudiced. They keep screwing up Walleye Jul 2025 #1
Women are the ones who have to do the mop up. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #2
I know it's wrong to judge people that way, but I agree Walleye Jul 2025 #4
It is historical fact. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #7
Men should get a surcharge on taxes for all the prison time they cost us Walleye Jul 2025 #8
All the death, destruction, injury, starvation, lowered standard of living, pain, misery. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #10
Cost of patriarchy Starbeach Jul 2025 #25
amen!!!! samnsara Jul 2025 #12
You are right. Norbert Jul 2025 #24
Good one. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #70
Mop-up needed writerJT Jul 2025 #62
Yes Trump Tramp women now doing damage too. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #71
Nah, it's both doing the screwing up & mopping up. But men have more MYTHS about themselves. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2025 #36
Women are criticized for being "emotional "because of the soft emotions. Pity, empathy, etc.. Walleye Jul 2025 #38
Right. Real men, not "Real Men" TM, realize that the soft emotions ultimately are strong. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2025 #43
As a man, I agree. I'm often embarrassed by others of my gender. CaptainTruth Jul 2025 #45
Thank you! We need more men like you that's for sure Walleye Jul 2025 #55
that's bdamomma Jul 2025 #47
I think you are way off base there. whopis01 Jul 2025 #54
It's overwhelmingly white men without college educations VMA131Marine Jul 2025 #76
That's a good point. The loudest and the rudest of them. Walleye Jul 2025 #77
They thought that he'd improve their economic standing? Vogon_Glory Jul 2025 #3
They can fall for the dumbest schemes if they think they're going to get an advantage somehow Walleye Jul 2025 #5
Their very important question, "What about me?" travelingthrulife Jul 2025 #14
But that question has grabbed their attention and are babylonsister Jul 2025 #17
In the coming months the young gullible may have to choose Vogon_Glory Jul 2025 #21
I don't know what a young person possibly thought would benefit them Renew Deal Jul 2025 #6
They are macho men, and they hate "woke". That determines their vote? Walleye Jul 2025 #9
I don't think that's universal Renew Deal Jul 2025 #11
Joe Rogan sucking his cock mattered Johonny Jul 2025 #13
I don't know one 30something that believes SS Prairie_Seagull Jul 2025 #15
That has been the talking point sinice "I" was 30, and I am 68 now. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2025 #23
Yes I heard that nonsense about Social Security being bankrupt in my 30's DBoon Jul 2025 #28
And very easy to do. Just tell them "we're going to eliminate the cap. Period." mobeau69 Jul 2025 #33
Yes, I started hearing that during the Raygun administration Trailrider1951 Jul 2025 #63
You might mention the concept of "self fulfilling whathehell Jul 2025 #42
Submitted for your approval usonian Jul 2025 #16
Exactly bdamomma Jul 2025 #49
Personality and identity politics. Get people to vote against their own best interests. usonian Jul 2025 #59
I regret the Republican vote I cast when I was a young twenty-three. Aristus Jul 2025 #18
I was twenty Ithree when I voted for Nixon in '68.. Permanut Jul 2025 #65
"Ha ha. Young male suckers and losers. ha ha." - Krasnov (R-Felon/Rapist) BoRaGard Jul 2025 #19
Oh you gullible little men... llmart Jul 2025 #20
Dumb shits think they know it all. oasis Jul 2025 #22
Then they're really slow on the uptake. Hint: When they tell you and show you who and what they are, believe them! SheltieLover Jul 2025 #26
There are so many things wrong with that Farmer-Rick Jul 2025 #27
FAFO... Wounded Bear Jul 2025 #29
We've probably been there for a decade. rubbersole Jul 2025 #39
This is my go to article bdamomma Jul 2025 #50
Excellent. Thanks. 👋 rubbersole Jul 2025 #52
If they had done ANY research at all Mtnmama Jul 2025 #30
But they think reading social media screeds *is* "research," so... Beartracks Jul 2025 #78
Hispanic men, muslim men and black men are just realizing they royally screwed up. sop Jul 2025 #31
Good but I still think he somehow stole it Joinfortmill Jul 2025 #32
"I have all the votes I need." Said before Election Day. 3catwoman3 Jul 2025 #60
Yup. Joinfortmill Jul 2025 #61
He knew all bdamomma Jul 2025 #67
Yeah but the price of eggs IronLionZion Jul 2025 #34
Fat lot of good that does now. BlueTsunami2018 Jul 2025 #35
Too fucking late, you clueless assholes. You screwed up, and so screwed niyad Jul 2025 #37
They thought "Whatever, what have we got to lose?" ToxMarz Jul 2025 #40
Ignorance is not an excuse!! Beacool Jul 2025 #41
Anyone who did the least amount of research instead of being so gullible, Fil1957 Jul 2025 #44
The young men who voted for Trump because he'd screw over liberals, blacks, immigrants, women, LGBTQ people, Martin68 Jul 2025 #46
I disagree they are a little bit different than their older MAGA Jspur Jul 2025 #68
I've met more than one young MAGA man who made it clear anger and hate were their prime motivators. I don't Martin68 Jul 2025 #74
Wait 'til they get a nice letter from the draft board. Ping Tung Jul 2025 #48
No home to call you own, bud? dlilafae Jul 2025 #51
Yep. Gonna hate it more when meemaw and pawpaw JCMach1 Jul 2025 #53
To hell with these young men who helped get trump elected. republianmushroom Jul 2025 #56
Well, for the young men that voted for Donald Trump Dan Jul 2025 #57
Soon mommy's basement will be in foreclosure Blue Owl Jul 2025 #58
An observation OneGrassRoot Jul 2025 #64
Start Picking Vegetables Deep State Witch Jul 2025 #66
All of the vindictive little 'my body not yours' little f-ers... Hope22 Jul 2025 #69
Here's a song just for these young men who voted for Dono Twump... spudspud Jul 2025 #72
No, they haven't. OldBaldy1701E Jul 2025 #73
Zohran Mamdani showed how to win men and showed how to win in neighborhoods that Trump won biocube Jul 2025 #75

Walleye

(44,805 posts)
1. Men can be so gullible and prejudiced. They keep screwing up
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:30 AM
Jul 2025

And we women keep having to live with it. And their answer is “oops, sorry”

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
7. It is historical fact.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:56 AM
Jul 2025

Men do the killing, fighting, torturing, destroying.

Women keep the home fires burning, take care of the children.
Keep body and soul together.
Hold the family and town together.
Take care of those injured and damaged by the men.

Women do it all with sheer will, determination, sacrifice.
Never get so much as a thank you.

Walleye

(44,805 posts)
8. Men should get a surcharge on taxes for all the prison time they cost us
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:59 AM
Jul 2025

Not a serious suggestion, of course, but I’ve often thought that

Irish_Dem

(81,266 posts)
10. All the death, destruction, injury, starvation, lowered standard of living, pain, misery.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:02 AM
Jul 2025

If women did all the damage men have done, we would be behind barbed wire for life.

Norbert

(7,765 posts)
24. You are right.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:03 AM
Jul 2025

I think it is part of the male brain that doesn't want driving directions is the same part that votes.

writerJT

(467 posts)
62. Mop-up needed
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:54 PM
Jul 2025

Murkowski just told reporters that the bill That She Just Voted FOR isn't any good and that she wants the House to make changes and send it back to the Senate -- "My hope is that the House is gonna look at this and recognize that we're not there yet"

maura quint (@mauraquint.bsky.social) 2025-07-01T16:34:36.029Z

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
36. Nah, it's both doing the screwing up & mopping up. But men have more MYTHS about themselves.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:30 AM
Jul 2025

They believe they screw up less.
They believe they are less emotional.
They believe they are smarter.
They believe they are more courageous.

Those are all myths.

I think men are a bit more emotional, because they can get away with it more and suffer fewer consequences because ... patriarchy. I never hear about women screaming and raging in executive suites and meeting rooms, but I do hear about men doing that.

Walleye

(44,805 posts)
38. Women are criticized for being "emotional "because of the soft emotions. Pity, empathy, etc..
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:42 AM
Jul 2025

But the strongest emotion of all is anger, and we know who can be captive to that

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
43. Right. Real men, not "Real Men" TM, realize that the soft emotions ultimately are strong.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:02 AM
Jul 2025

It takes inner strength to extend empathy, even though it is natural. It takes self-confidence to share. It is weak to be defensive and close off.

VMA131Marine

(5,270 posts)
76. It's overwhelmingly white men without college educations
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:23 AM
Jul 2025

There was no way in hell I was voting for Trump.

Vogon_Glory

(10,297 posts)
3. They thought that he'd improve their economic standing?
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:32 AM
Jul 2025

The floor is already cracking and the Abyss is beckoning below them. The only ones who can defy the law of gravity are the connected and/or very wealthy.

Too bad, guys, you’re facing the long drop!

Walleye

(44,805 posts)
5. They can fall for the dumbest schemes if they think they're going to get an advantage somehow
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:54 AM
Jul 2025

I think flattery is the Achilles heel of men

travelingthrulife

(5,179 posts)
14. Their very important question, "What about me?"
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:30 AM
Jul 2025

This is why fascists can drop them a bone and they fall for it. Zero empathy.

babylonsister

(172,759 posts)
17. But that question has grabbed their attention and are
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:39 AM
Jul 2025

hopefully more 'woke' because of it. I figured they'd come out of the woodwork once they realized they're really getting screwed. If self-interest wakes them up, I'm ok with that.

Vogon_Glory

(10,297 posts)
21. In the coming months the young gullible may have to choose
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:56 AM
Jul 2025

between a very small bone or no bone at all.

Or getting boned.

Renew Deal

(85,151 posts)
6. I don't know what a young person possibly thought would benefit them
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:55 AM
Jul 2025

Unless they want farming jobs. Then maybe.

Renew Deal

(85,151 posts)
11. I don't think that's universal
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:03 AM
Jul 2025

I doubt they thought anything would happen with student loans. Maybe jobs. But Trump was never focused on getting people to high paying careers.

Johonny

(26,178 posts)
13. Joe Rogan sucking his cock mattered
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:26 AM
Jul 2025

I wish Bernie unloaded on the racist fucker. Joe Rogan needs reminding he had a felon on his show and talked Hunter Bidens laptop instead of the crimes, the racism, the tax cuts for the wealthy, the kids in cages . . .

Never forget.

Prairie_Seagull

(4,689 posts)
15. I don't know one 30something that believes SS
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:35 AM
Jul 2025

will be there for them when they retire. Granted this is from a small sample size say 20 or so. I ask the question of all my kids pals whenever my kids bring a new person over to meet the rents. My kids are also in this age group and this is a big deal for them. With AI and automation already here or on the horizon they see and know this will be a big issue for them.

Indicate the democrats want to shore up SS and do it loudly for all youth to hear. I believe this will ring a bell of some sort

DBoon

(24,983 posts)
28. Yes I heard that nonsense about Social Security being bankrupt in my 30's
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:14 AM
Jul 2025

I'm 69 now, and getting a monthly deposit for SS

mobeau69

(12,374 posts)
33. And very easy to do. Just tell them "we're going to eliminate the cap. Period."
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:26 AM
Jul 2025

Warren would work but it needs to be hammered into the thick skulls every fucking day. 24/7/365.

Trailrider1951

(3,581 posts)
63. Yes, I started hearing that during the Raygun administration
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 01:17 PM
Jul 2025

You remember Raygun...the anti-FDR, don't you?

whathehell

(30,468 posts)
42. You might mention the concept of "self fulfilling
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:00 AM
Jul 2025

prophecies" to them. like, if you keep voting for RW candidates like Trump, it definitely will not be there for you.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
49. Exactly
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:47 AM
Jul 2025

that poster says it all. Carlin said they were coming to get it all, and it seems accurate. Too bad no one caught on.

usonian

(25,323 posts)
59. Personality and identity politics. Get people to vote against their own best interests.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:44 PM
Jul 2025

Since Lee Atwater's "Southern Strategy" ... if you can't convince them of unbridled capitalism, hook 'em with racism ...

Hate and discrimination are blind, and they are not inherent. They're taught. And taught well.

Appeal to the "old brain" limbic system "fight or flight" and shut down the rational brain.

Fascist playbook.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220447922

Aristus

(72,187 posts)
18. I regret the Republican vote I cast when I was a young twenty-three.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:40 AM
Jul 2025

In my defense, the guy I voted for was not only a successful businessman, he was also the youngest combat pilot in U.S. Naval history, a decorated aviator, a Congressman, US Ambassador to China and the UN, Director of the CIA, two-term Vice President, and a guy who still went skydiving in his nineties.

That's quite a resume.

The young Trumpsters voted for a spectacularly incompetent, nepo-baby reality TV show host.

Permanut

(8,391 posts)
65. I was twenty Ithree when I voted for Nixon in '68..
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 02:02 PM
Jul 2025

Been trying to atone for it ever since.

llmart

(17,617 posts)
20. Oh you gullible little men...
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:53 AM
Jul 2025

You think it's bad already? Just wait until your "savior" reinstitutes the draft and you get called up to fight his make-believe war.

I know of one 21-year old guy who voted for him and his reason was, "Because all my friends are voting for him."

SheltieLover

(80,456 posts)
26. Then they're really slow on the uptake. Hint: When they tell you and show you who and what they are, believe them!
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:11 AM
Jul 2025

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
27. There are so many things wrong with that
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:12 AM
Jul 2025

Daily Beast article that I don't know where to start.

First, prove that Trump won any of the battle ground states without Starlink's or vote rigging help.

Second, the white male Nazis didn't vote for economic reasons. They voted for typical Nazi reasons. They are perfectly happy with the Nazi state the little stupid Hitler is creating. I live in a red state and all the little Nazis would rather see their grandmas live in chicken coops and starve to death before they stop supporting their Nazi leaders.

Wounded Bear

(64,324 posts)
29. FAFO...
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:15 AM
Jul 2025


Let's hope going forward the votes will actually be counted. We're approaching Putin territory with election fraud. Not voter fraud, election fraud.

rubbersole

(11,223 posts)
39. We've probably been there for a decade.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:45 AM
Jul 2025

Putin's GRU/KGBish efforts are effective. They "recruited" tsf over 30 years ago. They've been buttering his insecure orange ass since before his Miss Universe pageant in Moscow.

bdamomma

(69,532 posts)
50. This is my go to article
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:52 AM
Jul 2025

that tRump was selected by Putin. Old article but still relevant today.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house

title:
Kremlin papers appear to show Putin’s plot to put Trump in White House
This article is more than 3 years old
Exclusive: Documents suggest Russia launched secret multi-agency effort to interfere in US democracy:

Vladimir Putin personally authorised a secret spy agency operation to support a “mentally unstable” Donald Trump in the 2016 US presidential election during a closed session of Russia’s national security council, according to what are assessed to be leaked Kremlin documents.

The key meeting took place on 22 January 2016, the papers suggest, with the Russian president, his spy chiefs and senior ministers all present.

They agreed a Trump White House would help secure Moscow’s strategic objectives, among them “social turmoil” in the US and a weakening of the American president’s negotiating position.

Russia’s three spy agencies were ordered to find practical ways to support Trump, in a decree appearing to bear Putin’s signature.

Mtnmama

(154 posts)
30. If they had done ANY research at all
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:19 AM
Jul 2025

Before voting, they would have realized what a scoundrel he is, has been all his life. That's the problem with America, at least a big one, people don't do a little research before voting! Or, maybe his crimes and vulgarities were ok, as long as they thought THEY weren't impacted personally.

3catwoman3

(29,406 posts)
60. "I have all the votes I need." Said before Election Day.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:50 PM
Jul 2025

How, one might ask, did he know that?

niyad

(132,440 posts)
37. Too fucking late, you clueless assholes. You screwed up, and so screwed
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:33 AM
Jul 2025

us all. Now, how are YOU going to clean up the horror show YOU helped create??? Because, quite frankly, we are sick to death of having to clean up the messes stupidity and cluelessness make.

Beacool

(30,518 posts)
41. Ignorance is not an excuse!!
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:52 AM
Jul 2025

Their machismo couldn't handle a black woman being president. Instead, they supported the toxic masculinity that Trump radiated.

They can go to hell too!!

Fil1957

(707 posts)
44. Anyone who did the least amount of research instead of being so gullible,
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:16 AM
Jul 2025

could have easily predicted the effects of his election.

Martin68

(27,749 posts)
46. The young men who voted for Trump because he'd screw over liberals, blacks, immigrants, women, LGBTQ people,
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:39 AM
Jul 2025

and everybody else they hate will never regret their vote. They don't care what pain it inflicts on them or their community as long as it makes the people they hate suffer.

Jspur

(798 posts)
68. I disagree they are a little bit different than their older MAGA
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 04:20 PM
Jul 2025

compatriots. The difference is they are young and stupid and gullible and actually believed Trump could make their lives better economically. They bought into the bs that Trump was actually a great president the first time and if it wasn't for COVID his whole entire first term would have been great. They bought into the narrative that gave Trump the credit for the stimulus. They also stupidly blamed Biden for the inflation issues without seeing that Trump's handling of Covid caused it.

They also stupidly thought that Trump would help their dating life hence they bought into all the crap these dating redpill guys were pushing on podcasts. I had empathy as an elder Millennial that dating has become a lot harder in this country due to these terrible dating apps that have skewed people's expectations of what a good mate is. The empathy however ended when they believed Trump could fix these issues. They thought by voting for Trump they were going to get back at all the women who rejected them and that the women they couldn't get would lower their standards for them. They are now learning the hard way that nothing will change regarding their dating lives which is something I kept on trying to tell them before they voted for Trump but they stupidly refused to listen.

Believe me a lot of these young men have regrets and they are more depressed now than they were before. Trump to them represented hope that their dating and economic lives could get better but now it's obvious it won't. You are going to see in upcoming years a lot of these guys spiral into great depression and an increase in suicide attempts.

On the other side the older MAGA guys have gotten to live their lives and just live to destroy people they hate while these young guys have not gotten to live their lives. That to me is the biggest difference between the two groups.

Martin68

(27,749 posts)
74. I've met more than one young MAGA man who made it clear anger and hate were their prime motivators. I don't
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:53 PM
Jul 2025

doubt many young Trump voters did believe he would make their life better, but even they support many of his anti-democratic values.

dlilafae

(445 posts)
51. No home to call you own, bud?
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 11:57 AM
Jul 2025

That high cost of living will keep you from saving. Should have went for Kamala.

Dan

(5,179 posts)
57. Well, for the young men that voted for Donald Trump
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:22 PM
Jul 2025

As I remember from back in the day - Keep your M16 clean to avoid misfires, hope this helps when you are in a faraway land.

OneGrassRoot

(23,953 posts)
64. An observation
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 01:49 PM
Jul 2025

Younger people have much less loyalty to organizations, including companies, and are much quicker to leave. I think that’s actually a good evolution because organizations and companies have shown no loyalty to us.

They may make bad, reactionary choices but, in general, they want the same shit we’ve been fighting for here. They’re especially tuned in to how $$$ is fucking up EVERYTHING.

So they don’t have any loyalty to Trump or the GOP or any right-wing “influencer.” They will be loyal to a point, but they seem to see through the bullshit faster than older people who used to be able to rely on truth from media.

Deep State Witch

(12,716 posts)
66. Start Picking Vegetables
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 03:27 PM
Jul 2025

Okay, all you guys who voted for the Orange Turd and are complaining about not being able to get a job - head out to the Heartland. There are crops that need to be picked. Get busy!

Hope22

(4,746 posts)
69. All of the vindictive little 'my body not yours' little f-ers...
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 04:52 PM
Jul 2025

I don’t give a crap what about their sads. Let’s poll the young women who voted hell no and lost their personal rights and a chance at a good economy. Scream….into the pillow….

OldBaldy1701E

(11,142 posts)
73. No, they haven't.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:57 PM
Jul 2025

That would require more brain cells than the current crop has exhibited so far.

Anyone that voted for that orange gibbon because they thought he would make their lives better in any way is beyond delusional and beyond help, as far as I am concerned.

I guess we may have a use for that abomination that they are building in Florida, once we remove this regime. Maybe some swamp time might help these younger males remove their heads from their asses.

biocube

(215 posts)
75. Zohran Mamdani showed how to win men and showed how to win in neighborhoods that Trump won
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 11:21 AM
Jul 2025

The blueprint is right here. Abandon the corporate centrist crap and nominate a new dealer presidential candidate next time.

Any time you're running a socially liberal campaign you're facing headwinds in most places. It's not just white men, but many black and Hispanic voters too. Moving left on economics is the afterburner to overcome that and you don't have to throw LGBT people under the bus.

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