I think the feud is going to get to the point that Elan will reveal how they cheated to put TSF back in the WH.

[Sogo]

"Without subsidies, Elon would probably have to close up shop and head back home to South Africa," wrote the president in a Truth Social post, adding, "perhaps we should have DOGE take a good, hard, look at this?" The president was referring to the government efficiency group that Musk ran until recently.

[Dave Bowman]

1. If he did that would be awesome.

[Sogo]

2. Exactly.

nt

[Justice matters.]

25. If he doesn't care about criminal investigations...

for the crime of rigging an election.

Not sure if he wants to risk prison time or huge fines or both, but I doubt he wants to risk it.

[Blue Dotty]

3. Fingers crossed n/t

[chowder66]

4. There is no proof he has done this but if he had he wouldn't reveal it.

Why would he when he would want to use it again and what if Democrats take back the majority? He would be setting himself up for prison time, lawsuits and self destruction.

On edit: he hasn't even "released" the Epstein files he was raving about.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

5. If Muck reveals crime like that he risks being incarcerated himself.

It is unlikely to have been rigged but it is possible and I'm keeping a mostly open mind.

[sop]

26. The ultimate irony would be Trump ordering his DOJ to prosecute Musk for rigging the 2024 election.

[awesomerwb1]

6. No it won't

trump holds all the cards. Elon can't beat the entire US government and would probably have to go live in Mexico or Canada.

[Fiendish Thingy]

7. And then what?

After Musk “confesses” he “rigged” the election, how does the rest of your fantasy play out?

[Americanme]

8. Damn, I hope so

I hope Elon reveals something so bad, they both end up in prison.

[Ms. Toad]

9. Hard to reveal what didn't happen.

This "they stole the election" is getting tiresome. It was tiresome when it was our claim in 2004, it was tiresome when Trump snatched the claim from us in 2020, and it is tiresome now that we've taken it back.

The arguments are literally the same - often citing the same conspiracy theorists who are all too happy switch their party loyalty to whoever will tout their theories.

(Note: I am talking about voting machine conspiracies - NOT the vote suppression, voter purges, limitation on voting hours, restriction of use of absentee ballots, enhanced voter ID requirements - all of those happened, and (by design) hit Democrats harder than Republicans.)

[Dan]

13. Well, having works with Election Systems for some years

My vote has always been the L&A software modifications post certification.

[Ms. Toad]

18. I've got more than decade,

and intimate connections (as in I've read the software from more than one vendor).

Nothing is post-certification. All changes have to go through a follow-up certification before they are implemented.

That's one of the reasons the call for open source software in the early 2000s was so dangerous. In theory open source software has the best ability to avoid security risks because anyone can see it and change it - so risks are corrected almost as soon as they are found. It works for things like computer operating systems.

But as a practical matter, in the election scenario, the fixes can't be implement before the software is recertified. That means the risks are known, publicized, and can be exploited for weeks to months before a fix can be implemented to stop the exploitation. In addition to financial motives, that's one of the reasons for proprietary software.

[Dan]

28. I know, but I read somewhere

That there were “minor” software updates made to the software after the certification. That is the one concern/issue that I was most wanted investigated.

[C_U_L8R]

10. Musk would be Epsteined

before that's allowed to happen.

[Maru Kitteh]

40. I said to Mr. Maru, Trump will only deport Musk if he can figure out

how to keep all his money first.

I don’t really buy into their little ‘feud’ to begin with. I think it’s 99% theatre.

[C_U_L8R]

42. Total theatre. A puppet show.

Not sure who's pulling the strings... but probably neither of these clowns.

[Baitball Blogger]

11. It's our only salvation.

[flvegan]

12. Nothing but kayfabe.

What else to expect but WWE-esque bullshit from a gang of idiots playing to an audience of reality tv addicts.

[republianmushroom]

14. Hopefully you are correct.

[TinyBlueDot]

15. what does TSF mean?

I have an idea but please explain it to my friend who's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

[Native]

17. The Sick Fuck

[Sogo]

37. Once during his Presidency, Biden referred to him as The Sick Fuck after something he had said. It stuck here at DU.

nt.

[Native]

16. From your lips to God's ears!

[Lulu KC]

19. I never thought I'd see him as a potential silver lining

Life. Mind-blowing.

[misanthrope]

20. Musk's real threat to Trump

Is that he has the kind of wealth that can not only ensure his own protection from Trump's reach but then fund dark activities to wreak havoc on Mango Mussolini, including paying for chaos agents. Musk could find ways to heighten Trump's already notable paranoia through psy-ops, driving the cult leader into greater depths of lunacy.

There's a lot of sinister things lurking in the darkest corners of our cyber-world.

[pnwmom]

21. You think Elon wants to go to jail? I don't. nt

[Blue Full Moon]

22. Poke that bear

[Fil1957]

23. I don't think he will, 'cause that would make Elon an accomplice. What he might do however,

if he gets really pissed off, is spill the beans on Trump's friendship with Epstein.

[ToxMarz]

24. Trump would then make a deal with Iran to deport him there

and start droping Bunker Buster bombs all over the country.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

27. Remember

Musk got access to the most sensitive data of all Americans, including Trump's. There are many ways he could use that information about Trump. He also has a bunch of so called computer whiz kids. That gives him options, if he chooses to use them. The dream option would be to hack Trump's crypto accounts and drain them. He could also probably find any foreign backers, if he chose to do so to publicize who Trump's handlers are. So much data, so little time.

[gordianot]

29. Trump won in his feud with Elmo but as always he will find a way to lose.

Beautiful!

[Orrex]

30. Maybe they'll just fucking kill each other

[ancianita]

31. If Musk's billion dollar contracts were broken he still might not. Problem is, even with all his evidence and direct

eyewitness, there wouldn't be anyone in this govt who would prosecute with it. His revengeful telling of the truth (and producing documented evidence) that implicates his own lawbreaking would get him nowhere but deported.

[ashredux]

32. Here is how it will play out. He will cut a deal with the Democrat leadership.

Then, he will actually leave the country, tell the story, and then once Trump is gone, the Democrats will pardon him for his testimony

Maybe?

[MsLeopard]

35. OMG I so hope that happens

I hadn’t thought of that scenario, but I like it!!

[Dave Bowman]

39. I believe that you're on to something. Fingers crossed.

[ElementaryPenguin]

44. I think your take is an extremely valid one, Ash!

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[JT45242]

33. Would south Africa allow extradition for election interference crimes?

Non violent crime. Rich defendant with connections.

[orangecrush]

34. If Musk is our last hope

We are truly and utterly fucked.

[kacekwl]

36. That would be great.

[yellow dahlia]

38. I think you are right.

He hinted that he could get tougher.

[malaise]

41. They will kill him first

That is all

[vapor2]

43. I feel elon has something in the works