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sheshe2

(98,377 posts)
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:33 PM Jul 2025

This! Maybe, and this is crazy, maybe...just maybe...



‪Max 🇺🇸 ☯‬
‪@maximumeffort433.bsky.social‬


Republicans pass major, incredibly damaging legislation.

BlueSky lines up to flagellate the Democrats.

Maybe, and this is crazy, maybe our refusal to hold REPUBLICANS accountable for REPUBLICAN harm is why REPUBLICANS HAVE FULL CONTROL OF CONGRESS.

I dunno, just an idea.

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This! Maybe, and this is crazy, maybe...just maybe... (Original Post) sheshe2 Jul 2025 OP
? what are the examples of this Skittles Jul 2025 #1
So it seems. sheshe2 Jul 2025 #3
Yes. It's here too mcar Jul 2025 #13
well I have seen the post advocating we throw immigrants, LGBTQ, seniors under the bus Skittles Jul 2025 #14
We can do both Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #2
could you explain Skittles Jul 2025 #4
I dont think Dems are getting trashed over the passage of the bill itself Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #9
I have been hearing a lot of them Skittles Jul 2025 #10
Thank you mcar Jul 2025 #15
they are afraid of Trump too Skittles Jul 2025 #16
Yep mcar Jul 2025 #18
Actually, no. sheshe2 Jul 2025 #21
Is BlueSky overrun with maga? I have no info but I kinda doubt it. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2025 #5
Lots of Dems... sheshe2 Jul 2025 #6
No, but there are a lot of "Progressives " mcar Jul 2025 #17
It's insane. Oopsie Daisy Jul 2025 #7
Yes, it is. sheshe2 Jul 2025 #8
It's important to remember that social media sites, including Blue Sky progressoid Jul 2025 #11
What a concept! mcar Jul 2025 #12
Yup. sheshe2 Jul 2025 #22
Ya Think! BlueSky isn't the only one. Cha Jul 2025 #19
Exactly, Cha. sheshe2 Jul 2025 #23
Because it's always democrats fault SocialDemocrat61 Jul 2025 #20
You're right. sheshe2 Jul 2025 #24
Democratic Party voters have more leverage with their elected representatives and leaders? Ilikepurple Jul 2025 #25

Skittles

(172,799 posts)
1. ? what are the examples of this
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:54 PM
Jul 2025

Dems are being trashed on BlueSky for this Ugly Bill bullshit???

Skittles

(172,799 posts)
14. well I have seen the post advocating we throw immigrants, LGBTQ, seniors under the bus
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:02 PM
Jul 2025

you know, because that would be such a winning strategy

Fiendish Thingy

(24,018 posts)
2. We can do both
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 06:56 PM
Jul 2025

It’s not an either or situation, and there’s plenty of criticism to go around, on different things for different reason.

I do agree that, today at least, the evil in the OBBB should get the spotlight.

Skittles

(172,799 posts)
4. could you explain
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:06 PM
Jul 2025

why Dems would get trashed over that piece of shit Big Ugly Bill? Didn't they all vote against it?

Fiendish Thingy

(24,018 posts)
9. I dont think Dems are getting trashed over the passage of the bill itself
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:51 PM
Jul 2025

But, as the example in the OP shows, over the inept messaging on the damage the bill will do.

And, of course not all Dems, but certainly some Dems deserve the scorn coming their way.

Skittles

(172,799 posts)
10. I have been hearing a lot of them
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:09 PM
Jul 2025

and it's not easy to do when the mainstream media is pretty much owned by rightwing hacks

mcar

(46,338 posts)
15. Thank you
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:03 PM
Jul 2025

MSM is far too invested in their “Dems in disarray” crap to actually show their resistance.

sheshe2

(98,377 posts)
21. Actually, no.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:33 PM
Jul 2025

What the OP is saying is that some people feel the need to bash Democrats and only D's. We have Hogg only interested in primarying DEMOCRATS with his mountains of cash!

"Why are they NOT doing anything."
"Why aren't they doing their F**KING JOBS!"
"ONLY A**,B***** and J****** are out there fighting for us!!!"

When you point out the town halls, Senate and Congressional hearings when they are ripping the likes of Noem, Bondi, Hegseth and more to shreds all you get in response is...ya but, They Need to do More!


sheshe2

(98,377 posts)
6. Lots of Dems...
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 07:22 PM
Jul 2025

on my feed because that's who I follow.

However I am sure there is the same amount of Dem blame/shaming. Similar to what I read here.

mcar

(46,338 posts)
17. No, but there are a lot of "Progressives "
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:04 PM
Jul 2025

Who spend way more time trashing Democrats than Republicans.

progressoid

(53,363 posts)
11. It's important to remember that social media sites, including Blue Sky
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 08:53 PM
Jul 2025

are echo chambers.

If you comment, view, follow cat videos; you'll start to see more and more cat videos. The same goes for political posts.

mcar

(46,338 posts)
12. What a concept!
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:01 PM
Jul 2025

Reading DU and Bluesky, one comes to the conclusion that this is all Biden/Dems fault.

sheshe2

(98,377 posts)
22. Yup.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:41 PM
Jul 2025

Oh, don't forget that the 'establishment' Dems and oldsters need to step down immediately and let the new kids on the block take over!

SocialDemocrat61

(8,003 posts)
20. Because it's always democrats fault
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:13 PM
Jul 2025

democrats are responsible for roe being overturned, especially Obama. Democrats are responsible for Trump winning. Democrats are responsible for every bad thing republicans do. At least according to Jill Stein voters and the like. They never blame republicans for anything or even take any responsibility for their own actions. They hate democrats more than anyone else.

Ilikepurple

(790 posts)
25. Democratic Party voters have more leverage with their elected representatives and leaders?
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 10:18 PM
Jul 2025

Yes, asking Democratic Party leaders to alter tactics is exactly why Republicans have full control of congress? presented as an argument but really just a suggestion that rests on a false dichotomy. I have a hard time with the syllogism presented
Republicans pass damaging legislation
Democrats criticize their party for not doing more to stop it
Refusal to hold republicans accountable by Democratic Party voters has given them control of congress

The missing premise is “if citizen democrats would criticize the republican party more and leave their own party leaders alone, then republicans wouldn’t control congress today.” It’s really doing all the work here, the rest is designed to stir up emotion (also flagellate, refusal?). A rhetorical device for sure, but I’d rather hear the argument. The blue sky poster knows it reads better when implied than explicit. This isn’t an argument that the readers are wrong if they’re critical of your leaders, it’s simply asking them to shut up. I guess that’s okay with some, but I tend to demand more rigorous reasoning for my silence and acquiescence.

How is the average blue sky poster going to hold republicans accountable in an echo chamber of mostly fellow democrats? I’m not saying don’t hold Republicans accountable wherever you can, but if our leaders hold no power over them, what power do we have? Sometimes, you try to change what you can. Isn’t that the same argument given in defense of party leadership? I think when you’ve voted to give your voice to a representative, it’s okay to have to make suggest In how to use that voice to fight for our shared principals. It’s their right not to listen and all of our rights to vote our conscience. Collectively, we have a voice, but it will be better heard when lead by those who have daily access to the media? It seems the people who want Democratic voters to leave their representatives alone and direct their energies at republican politicians also would rather direct their energies at putatively recalcitrant Democratic Party voters. Or should I say progressives?
It’s hard to think this isn’t mostly an argument to silence the more progressive segments of the party just as the more progressive segments see the present as an opportunity to get their voices heard and gain more control. There is certainly an argument to be had there, but this isn’t it.

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