*** Breaking ***Verdict Reached In Diddy Case. Guilty On Lesser Charges.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

He really is a bad guy. His moral compass was broken.

[Tribetime]

1. The media will pay more attention to the verdict than they will

Tens of millions of people losing their health , care and dying

[Brainfodder]

5. Watching the fall of this creep as entertainment, unfortunately this MEDIA guided since I have no power on that front.

I do wonder why Fox News, the locations where the poison is created, doesn't experience more issues of the negative kind a lot more often?

[Emile]

2. Guilty on two out of five charges

[murielm99]

3. You can't spell,

and is this for real?

[WhiteTara]

29. to whom are you replying?

just curious

[murielm99]

37. Original post.

I thought it was some sort of snark. It seemed too soon for a verdict. And the spelling was wrong. So I am the one guilty of snark.

[WhiteTara]

42. what was the misspelling?

they must have cleaned it up by the time I got there.

But the verdict made me sick to my stomach.

[murielm99]

45. I don't want to embarrass them.

I will tell you privately. The verdict made me sick, too. It should make any woman sick.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

46. SMH

I added an l to moral because this board sticks. I can get a glass of water in the time it takes for my thread to appear. I'm pretty sure I can spell moral. It's pretty rude to imply I can't spell a word we learn how to spell in grade school. I will be the bigger poster, take the high road, and not respond in kind.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

47. In

In between my haste to break the news and this board sticking, especially when starting threads, I added an l to moral. Mea culpa. Maybe I should commit seppuku.

[WhiteTara]

48. All is forgiven

[DemocratSinceBirth]

50. Thank you.

[WhiteTara]

51. forgiveness is mine

to dispense lol

[Passages]

4. Link

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/sean-combs-diddy-trial-case-verdict-live-updates-rcna216289

[milestogo]

6. He can still have freaky sex parties in prison

but there will be no women.

[WhiteTara]

49. looks like his lifestyle will carry on, outside prison.

[Johnny2X2X]

7. Convicted on 2 counts Acquitted on 3

He's going to prison.

[Prairie Gates]

8. Not Guilty on Sex Trafficking of Casandra Ventura

The Racketeering Conspiracy was always an overreach charge.

[Arazi]

9. Obviously it pays to be rich

😡

[Heidi]

11. Exactly. I suspect a less privileged person of color

(even if innocent) would have been found guilty on all counts.

[Wiz Imp]

13. Highly unlikely. A less privileged person of color would almost certainly never have been charged with Racketeering

and Sex Trafficking. Classic case of over charging and I think they did it to make an example of a famous person that everyone already knew was a scumbag. They thought that would be enough to get the charges to stick.

[Sparkly]

14. Maybe because they couldn't afford to boss a group of 'assistants'

in a pattern of criminal activity. I don't think it was overcharging at all.

[Wiz Imp]

16. By all accounts, they didn't convince anybody in the courtroom including the Jury that there was

any proof of sex trafficking and racketeering. That's the very definition of over charging. They never had a chance of getting guilty verdicts on those charges. The very short deliberation time makes it obvious that the jury didn't buy any of what the prosecution was selling on those charges.

[Sparkly]

18. And that is a shame.

Because it's clear there were force, fraud, and coercion as well as trafficking, with multiple witnesses and video evidence, and the fact that others were involved makes it racketeering.

[Wiz Imp]

23. Combs is a truly horrible, despicable human being.

I wish he could be sent to jail for life, but unfortunately it was never going to happen in this case.

[Sparkly]

28. And OJ was never going to be convicted

and Trump was never going to be convicted in the Senate and a thousand other men were never going to be convicted so "oh well!"

[Heidi]

17. First result of a very quick Google search;

https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/sandiego/press-releases/2014/north-park-gang-members-indicted-in-racketeering-conspiracy

Maybe they were guilty, maybe they weren’t, but POC with less privilege than Sean Combs certainly *are* charged with racketeering.

[Wiz Imp]

20. I didn't claim otherwise.

But based on all the accounts I've seen, based on the evidence presented, there was never any chance of getting a conviction on those charges.

Make no mistake, I wish they could put him in jail for life but it was never going to happen in this case.

[Heidi]

22. I apologize for misunderstanding.

I’m hot, pissed at the current state of our nation, and simultaneously navigating the whims of our two Maine Coons (one a polydactyl kitten who recently discovered that vertical liftoff is his super power).

[Sparkly]

27. The evidence was in front of our eyes.

All the evidence for trafficking was there, and the accomplices made it racketeering. The violence, threats of exposure of videos, financial coercion and shake-downs were all coercive. Paying for security video as a cover-up, bringing drugs and prostitutes in, sequestering his victims, threatening witnesses -- it was all there.

[Sparkly]

12. And, people still don't believe women.

[Heidi]

19. And there are specific subsets of women

who are especially not believed. 🤬😡🥺😢✊🏾

[TheProle]

31. Billionaire justice

[BannonsLiver]

10. Doesn't look like he's going to prison

And if he does it will be for far less time than it would have been had he been convicted on the more serious charges.

[murielm99]

21. He may get off with time served.

[UTUSN]

15. What's more disgusting: 1st time offense; celebrity break; richie rich "justice"?

[OmegaX]

24. Guilty on two counts...

...each of which carries a 10-year maximum. As a first-time offender, he's likely to get no more than a 2-3 year sentence for each, to run concurrently and with credit for 10 months already served, he'll probably be out in 18 months, if that.

A very diverse cross-section of 12 New Yorkers listened to all the evidence and arrived at 5 separate unanimous verdicts so like it or not, their decisions should be respected; win some, lose some, that's the way it goes...

[Sparkly]

26. It was a terrible decision.

Win some, lose some, and sometimes the jury doesn't know what they're doing. I honestly think the defense succeeds in confusing them.

[OmegaX]

30. Granted...

...but it's the defense's job to "confuse" juries sufficiently enough for them to find enough reasonable doubt to render a verdict of not guilty. As the saying goes, "don't hate the player, hate the game"...

[MakeThemCry]

34. Blame the prosecution

They clearly overcharge him. Clearly.

They started off doing nonsense, political theater.

The jurors saw all the evidence and came to the logical conclussion that Puffy was not guilty of what they were charging him with.

I hope they learn from this and don't seek to demonize a perp like this and let the facts speak for themselves.

[Wiz Imp]

36. Question? Was there some offense lesser than Sex Trafficking that they could have charged him with

(beyond the transportation for prostitution charges which got guilty verdicts) but the prosecution chose not to because they went for the more serious charge? I am not remotely familiar with the the legalities or illegalities of the kind of activities He was into.

[Sparkly]

38. The facts did speak for themselves

and he was guilty of exactly what he was charged with.

[angrychair]

40. Why does it seem

The ones we lose are always to billionaire men?

[Sparkly]

44. Good question.

Is the operative word the "billionaire," or the "men?"

They overlap so greatly, especially in cases like this, so...

I think it's about the "men." That seems to be the basis for decisions, and the takeaway message for the rest of society.

[Buckeyeblue]

25. He should get zero jail time

He's not a good person. He treated women he was in a relationship with horribly. No defense.

But that's not what he was convicted of. Prostitution. Really?

If the feds had put half the effort into holding Trump accountable as they have trying to convict Combs of a half-baked RICO charge, I don't think we would be in this mess.

I realize there is no internal link between these two cases but I'm not in the mood to debate logically this morning.

[TheProle]

32. Apparently...

[angrychair]

41. Yep

As long as you completely ignore the multiple stories of sex abuse torture parties and conspiracy to hide, it's an easy case to win.

[Buckeyeblue]

52. But he wasn't convicted of that

[angrychair]

53. Exactly my point

OJ was never convicted of murder but there is no doubt he did it or at the very least was involved.

[MakeThemCry]

33. Yep

Looks like he's going home tonight.

[Wiz Imp]

35. I just heard a point which I had forgotten about - but I think is dead on.

Ultimately, the verdict in this case was likely irrelevant because Donald Trump is almost certainly going to pardon him.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

43. And put him on staff

[moondust]

39. Don't worry.

He'll still be a convicted "celebrity" felon with sexual charges so he'll still be qualified to replace the current "celebrity" felon at the top of the GQP ticket.