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FarPoint

(14,763 posts)
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 07:53 AM Jul 2025

I am concerned we again, will not have a secure Election in 2026

I often get the thoughts that we won't even have an Election in 2026....look at all the destruction he has done since February this year...5 months of total destruction.....

I'm reading blogs, listening to YouTube news feeds and such that the 2025 Election was indeed stolen due to corrupt codes in the voting machines...Muskrat had his finger in this....Not all but many, example the New York zero votes for Harris....thus, my concerns...

Additionally, will Muskrat speak up on the corruption/ stolen votes?

Overall....my hopes are that we see this boil infected tRumpism explode, crash and burn successfully by September.... The energy is tense and frightening....something is going to blow....

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I am concerned we again, will not have a secure Election in 2026 (Original Post) FarPoint Jul 2025 OP
Well, at least the one who knows how to manipulate computer software is on our side this time. aeromanKC Jul 2025 #1
I have to agree with you on that at the moment... FarPoint Jul 2025 #2
I think he'll fall in line too. They always do. IrishAfricanAmerican Jul 2025 #13
I hold that concern as well.... FarPoint Jul 2025 #17
Musk is not going to send himself to jail for us by admitting he helped Trump steal the election. hadEnuf Jul 2025 #16
It's not just one thing. sop Jul 2025 #3
Absolutely..... FarPoint Jul 2025 #4
Two Ideas Chasstev365 Jul 2025 #5
All action is welcome.... FarPoint Jul 2025 #7
I don't trust Marc Elias at all on the 2024 election annielion Jul 2025 #24
Given not one of those sources you've been using has any evidence EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #6
Well....do your reseach... FarPoint Jul 2025 #8
I've read those sites EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #20
You may choose to do whateer ya want... FarPoint Jul 2025 #22
... et tu Jul 2025 #29
Frankly I don't know what more evidence is needed than what has been going on GoodRaisin Jul 2025 #33
WE already know they cheated gab13by13 Jul 2025 #9
".. thoughts that we won't even have an Election in 2026..." Septua Jul 2025 #10
This administration is working so fast at accomplishing destruction chaos... FarPoint Jul 2025 #11
We MUST insist on paper ballot count..no touch screen Abstractartist Jul 2025 #12
I totally agree.... FarPoint Jul 2025 #14
I think they can only throw close election. multigraincracker Jul 2025 #15
As I interpreted previous elections... Septua Jul 2025 #21
Why would we? If I get away with stealing I'm going back to the scene of the crime for more loot. live love laugh Jul 2025 #18
Too paraphrase Joseph Stalin... WinstonSmith4740 Jul 2025 #19
I discount 2024 fraud stories but... hay rick Jul 2025 #23
Trump says, "Blue states will disappear off the map next year." Botany Jul 2025 #25
Keep your eyes on Poland's election interference. nt in2herbs Jul 2025 #26
You can count on it dlk Jul 2025 #27
Paper ballots only! RainCaster Jul 2025 #28
I'm not convinced the last one was secure. n/t S/V Loner Jul 2025 #30
Wothout a doubt there was vote manipulation. They even admitted they had a secret Iwasthere Jul 2025 #31
The formula used to manipulate the 2024 election is out in public now annielion Jul 2025 #32
I'm concerned we will have a 2026 secure election Farmer-Rick Jul 2025 #34
Toi should probably stop Mountainguy Jul 2025 #35
We're gonna need a bigger vote! Towlie Jul 2025 #36

aeromanKC

(3,890 posts)
1. Well, at least the one who knows how to manipulate computer software is on our side this time.
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 07:55 AM
Jul 2025

So there is that.

FarPoint

(14,763 posts)
2. I have to agree with you on that at the moment...
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 08:03 AM
Jul 2025

My trust level is low with him....only time will see .... If tRump adds to his money loss...we may indeed see some squealing.

Something HAS TO GIVE!

FarPoint

(14,763 posts)
17. I hold that concern as well....
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 09:34 AM
Jul 2025

that said...I welcome any squealing he can offer to help take him down....yet greed is dominate and tRump is the Master of Chaos and Bullying.

hadEnuf

(3,613 posts)
16. Musk is not going to send himself to jail for us by admitting he helped Trump steal the election.
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 09:28 AM
Jul 2025

Musk is not on our side, he is just pissed at Trump. But if we can help him damage Trump, by all means hold our noses and help him do so

sop

(18,605 posts)
3. It's not just one thing.
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 08:05 AM
Jul 2025

When people complain about "rigged" elections, many envision a computer hacker screwing with vote totals. It's more than that, it's a combination of many things. Gerrymandering, corporate media bias and lies, social media influencers, Russian propaganda, making it more difficult to cast a vote, voter intimidation at the polls, unlimited campaign spending and many, many more. Republican have created a very sophisticated and well financed anti-democratic system to influence the outcomes of elections in their favor.

FarPoint

(14,763 posts)
4. Absolutely.....
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 08:10 AM
Jul 2025

The stolen election was planned in detail over the Biden Administration time.... they became so stealth! Multiple influences and a new hidden electronic technique also emerged as to how to use code to program a votes behavior....

Even if the information becomes more public...the media is in bed with the tRump Team...won't risk fanning such facts to the public..... This will need some public push.... fingers crossed folks are ready for fixing this....

Chasstev365

(7,788 posts)
5. Two Ideas
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 08:11 AM
Jul 2025

These might not be the best, but they're something.

1. Concentrate most efforts on Democratic House races in Blue states with Democratic governers, AGs, and Secretary of States. Fox example, Republicans in Illinois, New York, and California will be less likely to be able to cheat.

2. Democrats across the nation should vote with paper Absentee Ballots THE FIRST CHANCE THEY GET! . While not completely immune from tampering, they cannot be flipped electronically and are thus more secure.

I trust guys like Marc Ellis to give advice and I hope the DNC is working on a plan a year + out from the 2026 midterms!

FarPoint

(14,763 posts)
7. All action is welcome....
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 08:15 AM
Jul 2025

I think to facilitate our action steps, we need more up front leadership....a Democratic General.... not sure who this could be....we could use a Team of such Generals....

annielion

(106 posts)
24. I don't trust Marc Elias at all on the 2024 election
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 10:27 AM
Jul 2025

Elias does not realize the exit polls are not monitored. The media creates the non-existent exit polls.
Elias does not realize many of the pre and post election polls are not monitored either. Many are as worthwhile as our non-existent exit polls.
Elias is a not a statistician. He is not a computer programmer. There is a great deal of evidence of vote manipulation in the 2024 election using the tabulators ("the vote-counting computers&quot .
The 2024 election was stolen for Trump/Vance. We need to quit trusting the wrong people who say the election was fair and we should get over it.

EdmondDantes_

(1,794 posts)
6. Given not one of those sources you've been using has any evidence
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 08:14 AM
Jul 2025

Maybe stop using them. Nobody involved in the elections has raised any complaints including Kamala Harris and Marc Elias.

FarPoint

(14,763 posts)
8. Well....do your reseach...
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 08:17 AM
Jul 2025

Last edited Thu Jul 3, 2025, 09:04 AM - Edit history (1)

I did and it's real..... the fact that it happened means it will happen again.

Election Truth Alliance is a site and they have Bluesky, YouTube links...

EdmondDantes_

(1,794 posts)
20. I've read those sites
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 10:09 AM
Jul 2025

They never directly link to their data, they make stuff up, they ignore a myriad of factors. Why should I take the word of random people on vaccines vote tampering when the experts don't believe it?

FarPoint

(14,763 posts)
22. You may choose to do whateer ya want...
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 10:21 AM
Jul 2025

I am still holding out for exposure to election fraud/ tampering with the votes....

GoodRaisin

(10,922 posts)
33. Frankly I don't know what more evidence is needed than what has been going on
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 11:07 AM
Jul 2025

right in front of our very eyes. Seems like the next obvious step by Krasnov will be to cancel the elections and then when the states sue to tie it up in the courts for the forseeable future. And if we do have elections this evil government will assure they are not free or fair.

gab13by13

(32,314 posts)
9. WE already know they cheated
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 08:33 AM
Jul 2025

The data is out there, the graphs are out there, the anomalies that only happened in the swing states. Same day voting for Krasnov only surged in the swing states not in any other state.

Kamala Harris did not flip one red district blue, unheard of.

There is much work to do right now, my texts from Democrats for money for the next election have grown to a dozen a day, it makes me wonder if Democrats indeed did follow the Chuck Schumer strategy to let Krasnov burn it all down and then beat them in the next election?

FarPoint

(14,763 posts)
11. This administration is working so fast at accomplishing destruction chaos...
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 08:46 AM
Jul 2025

Last edited Thu Jul 3, 2025, 10:22 AM - Edit history (1)

The end game may indeed be no Election is 2026.... it's a real and valid concern....they hold all the cards...Executive, legislative and judicial.... I'm worried much of the time.

FarPoint

(14,763 posts)
14. I totally agree....
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 09:19 AM
Jul 2025

I just don't see the switch happening, especially poor red states due to cost as one reason besides they also want to manipulate the voting machines....

Blue states can update this aspect....they would have a willingness to have a secured election.... my thoughts anyway.

multigraincracker

(37,651 posts)
15. I think they can only throw close election.
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 09:19 AM
Jul 2025

Get near a 10% victory and it is very hard cheat.
The most important thing in the world now is GOTV.

Septua

(2,957 posts)
21. As I interpreted previous elections...
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 10:12 AM
Jul 2025

..all the state election officials did their jobs and honored their oaths to support the state and U.S. constitutions. Kudos to them.

But voter suppression tactics, election disruption, election outcome denials, voter fraud, ballot fraud claims...etc could wreak havoc. I really don't know but just can't imagine Trump or MAGA not having some sort of plan(s) to swing the election.

live love laugh

(16,383 posts)
18. Why would we? If I get away with stealing I'm going back to the scene of the crime for more loot.
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 09:59 AM
Jul 2025

Who wouldn’t?

WinstonSmith4740

(3,436 posts)
19. Too paraphrase Joseph Stalin...
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 10:04 AM
Jul 2025

It doesn't matter who votes. What matters is who counts the votes, and how.

These bastards learn from the best, don't they?

hay rick

(9,604 posts)
23. I discount 2024 fraud stories but...
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 10:21 AM
Jul 2025

I would be unsurprised by blatant fraud in 2026.

My take on 2024 so far is that Republicans and their autocratic allies/masters did a very good job of discouraging targeted "liberal" voters with comprehensive and disciplined misinformation/disinformation campaigning. They gave voters easy rationales to stay home. I also think they will have no hesitation at all to move on to outright electoral fraud or cancelled elections in 2026.

dlk

(13,247 posts)
27. You can count on it
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 10:38 AM
Jul 2025

Cheating to win has worked so well for Republicans, why would they stop?

RainCaster

(13,702 posts)
28. Paper ballots only!
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 10:42 AM
Jul 2025

That is the only trust worthy way to run an election. We must have a way to audit the votes that is reliable. This must be done across the country, with no exceptions.

Anyone pushing for electronic ballots must first prove how the last election was stolen and then demonstrate how they will keep that from happening again.

Iwasthere

(3,512 posts)
31. Wothout a doubt there was vote manipulation. They even admitted they had a secret
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 10:52 AM
Jul 2025

The Bullshit he was spewing in the run up to election was disqualifying. For God's sake he was even on faux mimicking giving head to a microphone. Harris and Walz were on fire across the country. IT. WAS. RIGGED!

annielion

(106 posts)
32. The formula used to manipulate the 2024 election is out in public now
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 10:53 AM
Jul 2025

Because ElectionTruthAlliance.org (ETA) and SmartElections.us have shown us the formula used to flip votes in 2024, it will be very difficult for the votes to be flipped in the same way going forward. This is why the Wisconsin supreme court vote was not flipped in 2025. ETA made their results public the day before the Wisconsin election. If the Democrat had not won that vote, an audit would have shown the same formula for vote manipulations.

This is the same formula used to flip Russian elections, the same formula used to flip the recent election in Poland. I've only once imagined a computer program to flip votes (in 2005) and it was the same basic formula. Maybe there aren't that many ways to do it? I don't know. I've only written one computer program - 25 years ago. I'm not a programmer.

Farmer-Rick

(12,663 posts)
34. I'm concerned we will have a 2026 secure election
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 11:07 AM
Jul 2025

Or to be more accurate, everyone including conservative Dems and corporate owners pretend we had a secure election again.

We haven't had an accurate vote count since 2000. Sometimes Dems are able to overwhelm the cheat machines and scams, but the vote is not being counted accurately. Because.......

1. When the vote machines went into service there were many complaints about errors and many countries trashed their voting machines because of the huge error rate. Look back at 2004 and notice the many reports of "errors". It's really odd that the errors were always in the GOP's favor but people be blind.

2. I can't find any info of the error rate being fixed or repaired. Prove to me those machines are now accurate.

3. Very few states check on the accuracy of the vote count. And usually that is ONLY done when some candidate complains and even then, it's frequently not done 100% because states charge for doing their job of recounting.

4. Jimmy Carter had a system to check accuracy of vote counts through a form of exit polling. (Not the kind of exit polling the corporate media uses.) He frequently was invited to observe elections in other countries. He never applied it to the US. Why? That is the only way you are going to prove to me that US voting is NOT rigged.

5. The source code used in those machines is kept secret. Today, most voting system vendors treat any source code they write as confidential and proprietary. The vendors tightly control
access to this source code. Election officials use the equipment, but they are normally
not given access to its source code. Candidates, political parties, technical experts, and
interested citizens are normally not given access to voting system source code, either.
Federal voting standards require voting system vendors to share their source code with
a testing laboratory selected by the vendor, and the testing labs are supposed to check
that the system complies with the federal standards. However, the testing labs have
come under growing criticism for missing security and reliability problems in deployed
voting systems, and many experts have expressed concerns about the ability of the
testing labs to ensure that voting systems are fit for use.

6. Most states do not receive or
require access to voting source code. However, there are some exception.

So.....prove to me those problems have been addressed in our voting systems.

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