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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(137,348 posts)
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 12:43 PM Jul 2025

J.D. Vance Says Immigrants Will 'Bankrupt' the Federal Government. The Opposite Is True.

Hours before he cast the tie-breaking vote on a major tax and spending bill in the Senate, Vice President J.D. Vance attempted to reframe the debate over the legislation.

Instead of thinking about the One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA) as a matter of fiscal policy that's primarily aimed at extending the 2017 personal income tax cuts, Vance said lawmakers should see it as a crucial piece of the Trump administration's ongoing immigration enforcement efforts.

The fiscal policy debate—including big details like how much the bill adds to the deficit and how Republicans are trying to hide those consequences—is "immaterial compared to the ICE money and immigration enforcement provisions," Vance wrote on X. "The thing that will bankrupt this country more than any other policy is flooding the country with illegal immigration and then giving those migrants generous benefits. The OBBB fixes this problem. And therefore it must pass."

Vance's claim is factually wrong—more on that in just a moment—but it is also telling.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/j-d-vance-says-immigrants-141541602.html

OMFG conservatives love to project.

It's your big booty full bill that will do more to bankrupt this country. One third of the nation's debt was incurred under Trump.

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J.D. Vance Says Immigrants Will 'Bankrupt' the Federal Government. The Opposite Is True. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2025 OP
I am so fucking angry at these people, to say I hate them is very mild Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #1
They aren't going to be around to pay their taxes, including Social Security Tadpole Raisin Jul 2025 #2
when any of those people say anything at all, creon Jul 2025 #3
He's lying and he knows it. Undocumented immigrants aren't eligible for most benefits. Ocelot II Jul 2025 #4
I was on Medicaid for a few years back in the mid 2000s Diamond_Dog Jul 2025 #8
Wonder what his wife electricmonk Jul 2025 #5
Wrong, JD! Your employer Fox News is who's bankrupting the government! Initech Jul 2025 #6
Not a single claim of his makes sense xmas74 Jul 2025 #7

Eliot Rosewater

(34,296 posts)
1. I am so fucking angry at these people, to say I hate them is very mild
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 12:50 PM
Jul 2025

Hate isn’t strong enough a word

Tadpole Raisin

(1,977 posts)
2. They aren't going to be around to pay their taxes, including Social Security
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 12:51 PM
Jul 2025

and Medicare that they pay into but for which they receive no benefit.

That 2034 trust fund depletion date is going to be moved up a bit, me thinks.

Just what they want.

Wait until the harvest season comes and crops rot. No amount of temporary aid to farmers or any other employer group will fix this dumpster fire!

Ocelot II

(131,203 posts)
4. He's lying and he knows it. Undocumented immigrants aren't eligible for most benefits.
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 12:58 PM
Jul 2025

They don't get SNAP, nonemergency Medicaid, SSI, TANF, or subsidies under the ACA. They don't get Social Security. The only benefits they might get are some emergency medical care and school lunches in states that offer them. Vance must know this, just like he knew damn well that the Haitians in Springfield weren't eating pets but he said it anyway.

Diamond_Dog

(41,030 posts)
8. I was on Medicaid for a few years back in the mid 2000s
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 01:24 PM
Jul 2025

Every year my information had to be re-verified and the first thing they want to know is proof of your citizenship. No citizenship, no Medicaid. Every year. I don’t know where Vance and his hateful clan get this idea that undocumented immigrants get Medicaid. They just keep parroting this lie over and over.

electricmonk

(2,015 posts)
5. Wonder what his wife
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 01:01 PM
Jul 2025

thinks about it. If I was married to someone and they all of a sudden started to insult everyone like me I would take it personally and be out the door. Blows my mind how people can just ignore shit like that.

Initech

(109,260 posts)
6. Wrong, JD! Your employer Fox News is who's bankrupting the government!
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 01:02 PM
Jul 2025

Both morally and financially! They need to be permanently banned from DC!

xmas74

(30,093 posts)
7. Not a single claim of his makes sense
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 01:03 PM
Jul 2025

Immigrants come here and work jobs no one else wants. They rent lodging. They buy groceries, dine out, pay utilities. They infuse money into their local economy, pay tax on purchases and perform services no one else wants to do.

It's so obvious that they benefit their communities.

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