Is it "over" for you?

[orangecrush]

It sure isn't over for me!

People's have shed tyrants against much worse odds.

I will not hand them victory without giving the full account and measure of myself.

[MuseRider]

1. Good lord, give up?

Never. I might not have the right things to do or be very good at what needs to be done but I grew up under a belt of anger and there is not any way I could ever give in.

[orangecrush]

4. Good

[Ocelot II]

2. Oh, hell, no! I'm just getting started.

Was on a Zoom call last night with other ACLU volunteers. People are enthusiastic and engaged for the fight.

[multigraincracker]

17. Civil Rights Lawyers are our only hope.

Civil courts our last shot at Justice.

[quakerboy]

35. that part of the battle is lost

But it's gonna take people a while to believe it.

Trump has his private army and his concentration camps. He has full, complete, unchallenged control of all three branches of government, and the press is quickly falling in line.

[homegirl]

45. We don't have time to weep..

Alas, Babylon...

[quakerboy]

49. next step is survive

And then hopefully to build or rebuild

[Trueblue Texan]

50. Hitler had his brown shirts and eliminated Reichstag...

But he was defeated. True, the US helped make that happen, but it would have happened eventually anyway, because people gotta be free. We may see the last of the freedom democracy affords for our lifetime, but the fight for freedom never ends. Democracy will rise again.

[quakerboy]

58. there's truth in what you say

Worst case scenario, the self serving nature of the people running the world pushes the environment over the edge, and humanity loses out. Life will likely go on.

Or people survive and eventually grasp for freedom again.

There is always hope. It just really sucks that a lot of us won't get to be part of a better future. I was really hoping for the star trek future, not the fallout future

[Mtnmama]

89. Yes! Listen to Tom Petty

I Won't Back Down! Wish I could post it here.

[TomSlick]

3. Hell no!

My patriotic duty is to resist tyranny until dead or in the gulag.

[orangecrush]

6. Don't obey in advance

[COL Mustard]

22. Our oath calls for us to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution

Against all enemies, foreign AND domestic. I never thought a President would be a domestic enemy.

[TomSlick]

71. Roger that!

Our oaths did not contain an expiration date.

[gab13by13]

5. I have been saying for a year or more

politicians won't save us, the courts won't save us, it is up to us, the people to throw out the billionaires, that is why I pushed for town halls.

I live among Magats and I will take no prisoners when the shit hits the fan.

[LoisB]

7. To quote that great philosopher Yogi Berra: "It ain't over til it's over". That won't happen

until I'm dead and buried and maybe not then because I have taught my grandchildren well.

[Danmel]

8. My father survived Auschwitz

I owe it to his memory and the memory of all of my family members who died to never give up.

[orangecrush]

10. Thanks for sharing that

Peace and safety to you and your family.

[COL Mustard]

23. May his memory

Continue to be a blessing.

[calimary]

28. We can all learn from his story.

NEVER EVER give up!

[bdamomma]

87. You are right

about that we are dealing with imbeciles!!!!

Never Ever, do this

[orleans]

9. no, not over. (but i could use some ice cream about now) nt

[orangecrush]

11. Same here

[orleans]

59. i'm reading your reply while eating a hot fudge sundae. however...

since i initially posted to you on this thread, much has changed.

as you know
218 evil spineless motherfuckers in the house voted to either make life harder for the people of this country or kill them.

and now i realize i should've ordered two hot fudge sundaes. i'm hoping a chocolate candy bar chaser will do the trick.

[ShazzieB]

60. Chocolate is the cure for many ills, in my experience.

Enjoy that candy bar!

[electric_blue68]

67. I believe in Chocolate Therapy! Ice cream, chocolate chip cookies, 72%-85% chocolate bars (ymmv 😉 ),

...brownies, chocolate lava cake, milk shake.
I think I covered most of the bases! 😄👍

[Kid Berwyn]

12. For as long as I can punch and kick and think, I will.

The traitors are our enemy. Our row, however, would be much easier to hoe had the Democratic leadership approached the traitor and his conspiracy as an existential threat to the United States of America. Perhaps they were under the impression that the news media would do its job -- the ONLY business enterprise named in the entire Constitution -- as described in the First Amendment.

[Nigrum Cattus]

13. These worthless traitors have forgotten a very important rule

They are taking away what little support people have and
when people have nothing they have nothing to lose !

[orangecrush]

14. Nailed it

[angrychair]

31. Americans are cowards

Internet is not reality. Most Americans have no idea what's going on and most don't even care.
Nothing you say will convince them or make them understand.

This is what Americans want to happen. They literally voted for it.

[Gimpyknee]

81. You're absolutely correct.

[bdamomma]

88. Maybe

whatever "ill" that falls on THEM, be it, financial, death or being "disappeared" will shake them to their core. Then they will be I say AWARE. Aware is Woke!!! or will they live in that cognitive dissonance.

[EarthFirst]

15. Fuck no!

I’m here until every last one of us is fairly and equitably represented in OUR nation…

Fuck their authoritarian regime!

[orangecrush]

24. Link arms

[Grim Chieftain]

16. Great! Thanks so much for this, orangecrush

Many of us probably needed this today. I know I did!

[orangecrush]

19. Right there with you

[multigraincracker]

18. Who's with me.

[orangecrush]

20. Yup

[Capt. America]

82. Beat me to it!

[AllaN01Bear]

21. ""

my anger meter has been busted for years . so has my backup anger meterr , give up , NEVER. i have yet just begun to fight. give me liberrty or give me death. so there too.

[nolabear]

25. PRESS ON!

How much do we have today because of people who didn’t give up. That’s what America is. People who fight injustice, even from within.

[Johnny2X2X]

26. What's sad is that we no longer have a government that answers to the people

And those MAGA are going to realize very quickly that they no longer have recourse should they be unhappy with the results of Trumpism.

[Harker]

27. It's not over til it's over.

Even then it won't be over.

[Cheezoholic]

29. I'm a disabled born in the US old man with naturalized parents. I'm locked and loaded if they come knocking ;) n/t

[OldBaldy1701E]

83. Yep.

Of course, this would be much more effective if we would take the fight to them.

[Mossfern]

30. I need to know

what I can do...

... something that's effective.
My State, NJ, is Blue (so far) so calls to my reps are not really necessary - they're already on the right side.

I can't march - back issues.
I'm at a loss and feel helpless - so any suggestion can help.

We're all falling down a dark rabbit hole, and we need to find a way out.

[orangecrush]

33. I might suggest

Volunteering in any way you can be helpful to the disadvantaged in your community?

Soup kitchen and pantry, clothing drives, etc.

God knows it will be needed.

[Mossfern]

55. Oh, I do that already

don't consider it political.

[Ocelot II]

37. Here's one:

https://act.aclu.org/a/join-our-volunteer-teams

[Dulcinea]

39. Postcards to Swing States needs help.

One of the postcarding campaigns is to your state! https://turnoutpac.org/postcards/

[orangecrush]

41. Thanks

[Mossfern]

56. Thanks for the link

My State votes Blue, but a campaign like that does help GOTV.

[uponit7771]

32. Fuck Naw ... hell fuck naw

[electric_blue68]

34. Not yet! Sometimes things change for the better, and sometimes from unexpected reasons, or circumstances, unexpected...

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people acting, etc.

I'm sure I'll have some "doom crying jags" here and there. It's truly frightening. Being in NYC, well, ICE will target more people 😔, and , who knows, what mayhem drumphf will try, otoh we're a big place with a lot like-minded people! I've got good distractions, and some fabulous memories to "swim" in.
And help how I can.

[Stargleamer]

36. It's over in the sense that not having Medicaid has fatal consequences n/t

[Dulcinea]

38. "I have not yet begun to fight!"--John Paul Jones

I refuse to give up. You know they won't. When we give up is when we lose.

[orangecrush]

76. Don't give up the ship!

Commander Oliver Hazard Perry, war of 1812 on Lake Erie

(Erie is my town)

[Warpy]

40. It aint over until the nukes fly all over the planet

and since I'm part of the generation scarred by "duck and cover," I've always been resigned to seeing that. I'm just a little surprised to be approaching another decade in a couple of years, who'd have thought I'd live this long?

Most countries coming out of the most hideous dictatorships manage, if not Golden Ages, at least long periods of peace, prosperity, and stability. We've had rotten presidents before, even long runs of rotten presidents (like the runup to the Great Depression) and we've managed to come out of it. I have to think that unless the nukes start to fly, we'll get through this , tooo.

[NickB79]

42. In a way, yes, due to the cuts to clean energy

Even though we likely passed the climate tipping point years ago, the revocation of clean energy programs guarantees that the planet will pass 3C by the end of the century and doom a sizeable chunk of civilization to collapse. There is no magic technology scalable enough to sequester all the carbon we're about to emit.

[DENVERPOPS]

43. It is officially confirmed now.........

our 73? Million need to get together on our own, with no leadership or guidance what-so-ever from dems or DNC..........

[orangecrush]

44. We ain't dead yet...

And I agree with you COMPLETELY..

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[DENVERPOPS]

64. My wife and I

went to his concert at Red Rocks here in Denver about 20-30 years ago and got up and left along with a bunch of other people.
He and his entire group were literally drunk on their asses or stoned or both. They were singing out of tune, out of synch on the songs with both their guitars and their words.....It was flat out horrible..........One of them kept falling off of his stool........
And what a waste of money because his tickets were not cheap......he should have refunded the ticket prices to everyone in the audience....

[orangecrush]

73. Sorry to hear

Had that happen a time or two at concerts.

[Trueblue Texan]

51. Democratic Socialist Party is growing nt

[DENVERPOPS]

65. They should just call it

the socialist party and completely drop the Dem part if they truly want to make it........

[edhopper]

46. Yes

There is no stopping this until January 2027.

But working for that election is important.

[ShazzieB]

61. And don't forget the midterms next year!

If we can hold on to all our blue seats in the House and Senate and flip some more, that could make a big difference!

[edhopper]

62. That is the midterms

if the Dems can take Congress, they will be in office January 2027.

[ShazzieB]

72. I see what you mean.

The mention of 2027 threw me off for a moment there.

[Initech]

47. Trump can go shove his "big beautiful bill" right up his big ugly ass!

[orangecrush]

75. Sideways

[Dulcinea]

92. I'll drink to that!

"Fuck these people." --Hunter S. Thompson

[Kali]

48. no fucking way

fuck those fucking fuckers

[orangecrush]

74. 2nd that!

Hi Kali!

[EnergizedLib]

52. I will die before I surrender

[Fullduplexxx]

53. "Was it over when the germans bombed pearl harbor?"

[CatWoman]

70. LOL

Beat me to it

[JPPaverage]

54. Im 67 years old.

I haven't given up on anything yet. I think I'll keep fighting this limp dick asshole until he's gone.

[IrishAfricanAmerican]

57. I'm a liberty or death kind of guy, but I do believe we are beyond a political solution.

The fight will end up being bloody and long.

[ShazzieB]

63. Hell no, it's not over!

Like the song Cockeyed Optimist says, "I'm stuck like a dope with a thing called hope and I can't get it out of my heart."

I'll never give up. It's not even a choice, really. I don't know how to give up!

[ForgedCrank]

66. No.

But that's because I'm not buying into the crazy doom postings or melodramatic media headlines either.
Things are certainly not going how I would like them to go, but reality doesn't at all correlate with the news and social media narratives.
I know what the fix is for this, and that fix is to do what we almost always do in the upcoming med-term elections. We can see it from here, we just have to be patient and try to recognize the frenzy of melodramatic exaggeration of every single thing that is going on right now for what it is, and that is a great deal of fear-mongering BS.
We all knew they would sew chaos for a couple of years so we shouldn't be at all surprised by any of this. But, this can be fixed, and we will fix it like we always do. We just need to stay grounded for the time being and focus on solutions, not crazy headlines full of BS.

[CBHagman]

69. Hell, no, it isn't!

In other times people who faced fearsome obstacles and had fewer resources didn't give up, and we have no business giving up now.

To the task at hand!

[orangecrush]

80. Ukraine comes to mind

Thanks!

[bdamomma]

90. Yes,

Ukraine, we are all Ukrainians' now., or any other country that had to deal with despots/dictators.

Just gather them all up for Crimes against humanity.

[WSHazel]

77. The market is the best line of defense

I will keep saying it until people start believing me.

[Bev54]

78. I read on bluesky that indivisible wants to train

1 million people on how to resist and for those to train and help others. I am sure those interested can probably find info on their website.

[orangecrush]

79. Thanks

[Hugin]

84. It's been over for me since Reagan stole the life I thought I would have...

Yet, I plod ahead.

Here, I thought in my golden years, I thought finally finally I would get some of the joy of being irresponsible that I had seen so many around me enjoying for so long.

Nope, the Republicans have made it so that I will have to continue picking up their f**king slack. When I least desire to do so.

[orangecrush]

85. Same here

[bdamomma]

86. Nope

I don't want to be like Russia, or Russians they are miserable people. They never smile.

[hwmnbn]

91. FUCK NO! it ain't over....

Won't be over til this orange motherfucker is in jail or dead. Makes no difference. And that goes for all his accomplices.

We have ALL their names.