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hedda_foil

(16,899 posts)
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 01:52 PM Jul 2025

Republicans Are Cutting Medicare. Not Only Medicaid, Medicare

https://prospect.org/politics/2025-07-03-republicans-cutting-medicare-not-only-medicaid/

Because of a statutory requirement to automatically impose budget cuts when legislation increases the deficit, the Big Beautiful Bill would require automatic sequestration cuts across the board, something that has been confirmed by the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) but has been largely absent from the debate over the bill. Medicare is one of the programs that will face the axe, and the damage sums to $490 billion over the next ten years, starting in the next fiscal year that begins in October. While many of the safety-net cuts in the bill are delayed to help Republicans with their re-election campaigns, the Medicare cuts must begin next year.

The Statutory Pay-As-You-Go (PAYGO) Act of 2010 requires the Office of Management and Budget to keep scorecards that track the cumulative effects of legislation on the budget deficit, based on estimates from the CBO. The Senate version of the Big Beautiful Bill adds roughly $3.3 trillion in debt over the next ten years. That will have to be made up through automatic sequestration cuts.
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Therefore, OMB would be required to issue an order reducing spending by $330 billion by January 2026. Many accounts are exempted from sequestration, including Social Security and several programs affecting low-income Americans. But Medicare is not.

There is a limitation on Medicare cuts of 4 percent of the program. In fiscal year 2026, that would come out to $45 billion. These cuts would increase with the growth of the program, hitting $75 billion by 2034 according to CBO. The total ten-year cuts would equal $490 billion.

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Republicans Are Cutting Medicare. Not Only Medicaid, Medicare (Original Post) hedda_foil Jul 2025 OP
This was in the bill from the beginning gab13by13 Jul 2025 #1
We have seven years before we lose income and our healthcare? Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #10
Oh, I'm sure they'll take it faster than that Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #31
I agree. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #33
I'm in my late 50's Bettie Jul 2025 #17
Start writing political ads for 2026. Assuming we have elections. Be strong Democrats and take back America! OrlandoDem2 Jul 2025 #2
GOTV and if we lose, blame ourselves. gab13by13 Jul 2025 #3
Dems need to come out with goals, a Project 2026/2028, rather than just criticizing evil GOPers. That just doesn't work Silent Type Jul 2025 #16
Id add that part of thar needs to be a 10 year balanced budget, paid for with raising elons taxes. Volaris Jul 2025 #25
No.. RhapsodyFav Jul 2025 #19
THIS !! Define them early and start helping people make plans to live without gov HCI !!! uponit7771 Jul 2025 #21
Please go to YouTube and type in "Christopher Titus rigged" Eliot Rosewater Jul 2025 #32
The economic contraction in this bill is going to Johonny Jul 2025 #4
They learned nothing from austerity programs cuts in Europe underpants Jul 2025 #7
Not sure everything is delayed Johonny Jul 2025 #11
The Demand Destruction Bill. roamer65 Jul 2025 #26
Some posters mentioned this earlier in the process. littlemissmartypants Jul 2025 #5
"The Medicare cuts put the system on the fast track to oblivion." - last sentence. CousinIT Jul 2025 #6
Medicare is going to end up a bare bones catastrophic plan, backing up expensive private supplemental plans. roamer65 Jul 2025 #27
Yes we can assume Trump will hand Medicare will be handed to the vulture billionaires. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #34
They want us all to die. milestogo Jul 2025 #8
Old people cost too much, the billionaires think our money belongs to them. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #14
Hey, Billionaires need more and permanent tax cuts. SergeStorms Jul 2025 #23
Paygo, another Dem enacted law with unintended consequences. Congress usually waives that provision, but doubt it here. Silent Type Jul 2025 #9
They put poison pills in the ACA as well Ritabert Jul 2025 #13
Very interesting... Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #12
Yes. 10,000 more masked republicon gICE-stapo thugs BoRaGard Jul 2025 #18
i just sent that story to a friend . AllaN01Bear Jul 2025 #15
I heard about this last month Figarosmom Jul 2025 #20
I hope each and every one who voted for this atrocity Grim Chieftain Jul 2025 #22
Ok so do this Abstractartist Jul 2025 #24
I've heard anecdotal reports markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #28
One of their talking points is that whoever predicts negative results... SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2025 #29
GOP theme song: "Hope I Die Before I get Old". JohnnyRingo Jul 2025 #30

gab13by13

(31,132 posts)
1. This was in the bill from the beginning
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 01:55 PM
Jul 2025

I will be 78 this month, I have Medicare and Social Security. I estimate I have 7 years before I lose them.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,282 posts)
31. Oh, I'm sure they'll take it faster than that
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 04:32 PM
Jul 2025

Don’t expect them not to if all we do is sit here, if all we do is peaceful protests, I’m not saying violence, but I am saying much more aggression is needed.

Irish_Dem

(79,527 posts)
33. I agree.
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 04:54 PM
Jul 2025

It will happen quicker than 7 years.
And yes they will not stop until they are stopped.

OrlandoDem2

(3,146 posts)
2. Start writing political ads for 2026. Assuming we have elections. Be strong Democrats and take back America!
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 01:56 PM
Jul 2025
 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
16. Dems need to come out with goals, a Project 2026/2028, rather than just criticizing evil GOPers. That just doesn't work
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 02:38 PM
Jul 2025

anymore.

Volaris

(11,379 posts)
25. Id add that part of thar needs to be a 10 year balanced budget, paid for with raising elons taxes.
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 04:12 PM
Jul 2025

If the gop is hellbent on being the party that has abandoned any semblance of fiscal responsibility (the same way they handed us NatSec as a result of DimSons fuckups in Iraq), then by God we should kick them and take off running with it.
Hell, I'd even be willing to eat a 1 or 2 % national sales tax, if it were law that every penny went to paying down the principal on the debt...fuck these dumbasses who are about to find out how badly trump and his GOP Majority fucked them.

RhapsodyFav

(69 posts)
19. No..
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 03:27 PM
Jul 2025

The ads need to start now. Don't wait till elections. Carpet bomb with ads everywhere showing what the bill does and how the "delay" is calculated to take place after the mid-terms. They need to start fighting dirty. Not just keep asking for $ for campaign. No days off, no vacations. Go everywhere and get volunteers to go everywhere constantly.

Johonny

(25,332 posts)
4. The economic contraction in this bill is going to
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 01:59 PM
Jul 2025

Be amazing. GOP spend billions on things that don't grow the economy. Cutting things that do grow the economy and the bill basically makes it hard to reverse course.

And then there the huge issuing of new debt. Goodbye affordable loans

underpants

(194,722 posts)
7. They learned nothing from austerity programs cuts in Europe
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 02:03 PM
Jul 2025

They delayed things until after the next election? Jesus.

Johonny

(25,332 posts)
11. Not sure everything is delayed
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 02:10 PM
Jul 2025

A lot of companies are going to be making moves now. I mean if you work for a rural hospital on the edge and you can move . . . You're moving now or the hospital is going to probably fold anyway. Insurance companies, they will be hiking rates now. Those Treasury notes issued the rest of the year are going to be tougher sells. . . A lot things in the economy are going to react this year in anticipation of the contraction in health care to come.


Meanwhile, every GOPer doing their taxes expecting a big fat cut will find no cut. At best they might tread even. Some will lose out.

Then there are the poison pills, many we don't know to much about.

roamer65

(37,813 posts)
26. The Demand Destruction Bill.
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 04:16 PM
Jul 2025

That’s what I have been calling it.

Within a year, we are going to be in a debt deflation trap like China.

CousinIT

(12,199 posts)
6. "The Medicare cuts put the system on the fast track to oblivion." - last sentence.
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 02:00 PM
Jul 2025

Folks, it's just gone. Not immediately, but it will likely be if these cuts take effect. I retire in 3 years, and I'm not sure it will be there even then.

roamer65

(37,813 posts)
27. Medicare is going to end up a bare bones catastrophic plan, backing up expensive private supplemental plans.
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 04:19 PM
Jul 2025

More socialism for the corporations.

Irish_Dem

(79,527 posts)
34. Yes we can assume Trump will hand Medicare will be handed to the vulture billionaires.
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 04:56 PM
Jul 2025

Who will make operating costs 80%.

SergeStorms

(19,919 posts)
23. Hey, Billionaires need more and permanent tax cuts.
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 03:44 PM
Jul 2025

Just where are your priorities, milestogo?

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
9. Paygo, another Dem enacted law with unintended consequences. Congress usually waives that provision, but doubt it here.
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 02:07 PM
Jul 2025

Fiendish Thingy

(21,924 posts)
12. Very interesting...
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 02:14 PM
Jul 2025
There is a limitation on Medicare cuts of 4 percent of the program. In fiscal year 2026, that would come out to $45 billion.


$45 billion is precisely the amount the ICE budget was increased to pay for construction of the concentration camps and hiring 10,000 new brownshirts.

Hmmmm…

Figarosmom

(9,683 posts)
20. I heard about this last month
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 03:29 PM
Jul 2025

So where was the media reporting and pounding on this? Where were the Dems pounding on this? How hard would it have been to add this to their talking about Medicaid?

Well good job press and Dems.

Not just a turbo charged ICE but also our Medicare gets cuts.

Grim Chieftain

(1,186 posts)
22. I hope each and every one who voted for this atrocity
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 03:37 PM
Jul 2025

suffers the full consequences of their actions. Horrible sociopaths.

Abstractartist

(412 posts)
24. Ok so do this
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 04:10 PM
Jul 2025

If you get sick, go to the ER.. every time. If you have a cold, go to the ER, anything you think is a medical problem… EVERYONE JUST GO TO THE ER. You will see change’s quicker then you think. The down and dirty thing to do is VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS. Retake house and Senate, elect a democrat president, insist on paper ballots and then once the democrats have the house, senate and white house, then pass universal healthcare, social security fund security, etc….

markodochartaigh

(4,966 posts)
28. I've heard anecdotal reports
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 04:21 PM
Jul 2025

from people on Medicare that some tests and minor procedures which had been previously covered, this year have not been covered. I don't know if this is becoming common or not.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,368 posts)
29. One of their talking points is that whoever predicts negative results...
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 04:22 PM
Jul 2025

... is a Democrat. And therefore?

JohnnyRingo

(20,470 posts)
30. GOP theme song: "Hope I Die Before I get Old".
Thu Jul 3, 2025, 04:28 PM
Jul 2025

Too late, I'm there.

Medicare pays my dialysis at nearly nearly $30,000 a month. How much will they cover next year? Under Medicare Advantage I would have to pay part of that and that's just what they're pushing us to.

Eliquis blood thinner has a $400/month copay, but I guess I've had it too good according to the fucking republicans. It's ironic that I almost have to sell my blood to not have a stroke.

But now Bezos knows he can extend his honeymoon on my dime.

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