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SunSeeker

(58,338 posts)
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 01:57 AM Jul 2025

Did anyone else just get a skeevy propaganda email from the Social Security Administration?

I have never gotten an unsolicited email like this from Social Security before. It gushes about the passage of the "Big Beautiful Bill" and how it will allow 90% of seniors to not pay tax on their Social Security. WTF. Who sent this, Big Balls? Oh, and it states that the email "was produced and disseminated at U.S. taxpayer expense."

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Did anyone else just get a skeevy propaganda email from the Social Security Administration? (Original Post) SunSeeker Jul 2025 OP
I did not, but othrs here have; I 'just' got my 'regular' SS. elleng Jul 2025 #1
Mine came today Mossfern Jul 2025 #38
I did CountAllVotes Jul 2025 #2
The thing is, the vast majority of seniors don't pay taxes on their social security. SunSeeker Jul 2025 #4
I did. Just about threw up reading it. Dem2theMax Jul 2025 #3
I know.. Neo Nazi Propaganda Machine at your service. Cha Jul 2025 #7
Yep. And I figured it was some bullshit FirstLight Jul 2025 #5
Yes, I got that, too. Silver Gaia Jul 2025 #6
I received one sdfernando Jul 2025 #8
I got one. Dr. T Jul 2025 #9
I got it at 8:27 last night. markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #10
Yes, just received it. And my SocSec went into French account yesterday. GoneOffShore Jul 2025 #11
It could be the devaluation of the U. S. dollar Dr. T Jul 2025 #16
Oh, it's definitely that. Every expat we know is upset about the exchange rate. GoneOffShore Jul 2025 #31
Yes. I did. Pototan Jul 2025 #12
I looked and there it was. BidenRocks Jul 2025 #13
Love your last sentence. Katinfl Jul 2025 #27
Yes, I got it. mnhtnbb Jul 2025 #14
Yes, it is grotesque, especially as so many JMCKUSICK Jul 2025 #15
Big Lie SS self pat memo. Squeaky41 Jul 2025 #17
Yes. I thought: "WTF?" mainer Jul 2025 #18
Notice how the email fails to mention these basic facts, even though it goes on for paragraphs? SunSeeker Jul 2025 #34
The Bill mentions nothing about SS earnings being taxed. Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #36
This is insidious Beausoleil Jul 2025 #19
I saw a post claiming that is false MichMan Jul 2025 #32
I was wrong in my assumption that taxes collected on SS Benefits don't go back to the SS Trust fund. Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #39
Yep. What a lousy thing to wake up to Maeve Jul 2025 #20
Yes - propaganda. 617Blue Jul 2025 #21
It reads like this.. ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2025 #22
The average benefit of this new deduction is an increase in after tax income of just $670 Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #37
Got the email this morning. nt doc03 Jul 2025 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2025 #24
yes. barbtries Jul 2025 #25
Yes, dog whatta slimy email MiHale Jul 2025 #26
That the SSA has to call it "Big Beautiful Bill" NCDem47 Jul 2025 #28
Sound of debt clock speeding up MIGuy Jul 2025 #29
Yes WmChris Jul 2025 #30
Yup peggysue2 Jul 2025 #33
Meanwhile, the bill cuts Medicaid for seniors, which hurts nursing homes. SunSeeker Jul 2025 #35

Mossfern

(4,730 posts)
38. Mine came today
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:42 PM
Jul 2025

I thought they just didn't think I was special enough to send it to me.

CountAllVotes

(22,234 posts)
2. I did
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 02:01 AM
Jul 2025

from: subscription.service@subscriptions.ssa.gov

>> Social Security Administration
Social Security Applauds Passage of Legislation Providing Historic Tax Relief for Seniors


The Social Security Administration (SSA) is celebrating the passage of the One Big, Beautiful Bill, a landmark piece of legislation that delivers long-awaited tax relief to millions of older Americans.

The bill ensures that nearly 90% of Social Security beneficiaries will no longer pay federal income taxes on their benefits, providing meaningful and immediate relief to seniors who have spent a lifetime contributing to our nation's economy.

“This is a historic step forward for America’s seniors,” said Social Security Commissioner Frank Bisignano. “For nearly 90 years, Social Security has been a cornerstone of economic security for older Americans. By significantly reducing the tax burden on benefits, this legislation reaffirms President Trump’s promise to protect Social Security and helps ensure that seniors can better enjoy the retirement they’ve earned."

The new law includes a provision that eliminates federal income taxes on Social Security benefits for most beneficiaries, providing relief to individuals and couples. Additionally, it provides an enhanced deduction for taxpayers aged 65 and older, ensuring that retirees can keep more of what they have earned.

Social Security remains committed to providing timely, accurate information to the public and will continue working closely with federal partners to ensure beneficiaries understand how this legislation may affect them.






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SunSeeker

(58,338 posts)
4. The thing is, the vast majority of seniors don't pay taxes on their social security.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 02:08 AM
Jul 2025

Certainly the poor ones don't. But they are the ones who will be hurt by Medicaid cuts.

For most seniors, the Big Ugly Bill is all pain, no gain.

Dem2theMax

(11,005 posts)
3. I did. Just about threw up reading it.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 02:07 AM
Jul 2025

Look at the shiny object over here.
Don't pay any attention to all the bad news going on over there.

Cha

(319,561 posts)
7. I know.. Neo Nazi Propaganda Machine at your service.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 03:29 AM
Jul 2025

I haven't gotten one thankfully but have read plenty on here who have.

FirstLight

(15,771 posts)
5. Yep. And I figured it was some bullshit
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 02:18 AM
Jul 2025

Actually I figured as fucked up as this administration as it was somehow patting itself on the back for their bullshit big Bill ..
It's just a fucking joke. I deleted it and didn't click on anything cuz I wasn't sure what the fuck to believe

Dr. T

(664 posts)
9. I got one.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:21 AM
Jul 2025

I started reading it then quickly realized it was Nazi propaganda.

It made my stomach churn. I couldn't believe what I was experiencing. Biden wouldn't have allowed it. The message sounded like a Musk trap.

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
10. I got it at 8:27 last night.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:31 AM
Jul 2025

I worked for a hospital that forced registered nurses to work unpaid overtime for more than a decade. When they finally started to pay us overtime again they put out a memo. You would have thought that they invented the wheel. They must teach that garbage in business school.

GoneOffShore

(18,025 posts)
11. Yes, just received it. And my SocSec went into French account yesterday.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:31 AM
Jul 2025

Social Security converted to euros -
€1 159,23
€1 138,81
Last month it was
€1 198,34
€1 177.24
Strange because in May it was
€1194.66
€1173.63
Before #Felon47 was elected, it was averaging €1200 - €1250 + per month

Dr. T

(664 posts)
16. It could be the devaluation of the U. S. dollar
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 05:26 AM
Jul 2025

against all foreign currencies.

Fuck the orange ignoramus, he and his enablers are responsible for this.

BidenRocks

(3,375 posts)
13. I looked and there it was.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:35 AM
Jul 2025

Now this would save me $2400.

Remember the checks he just had to sign in his first term?
This is an e mail version of that.

Fuck off and die chump!

mnhtnbb

(33,439 posts)
14. Yes, I got it.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:48 AM
Jul 2025

Disgusting.
Also, from what I understand, thanks to the requirement of RMD on my IRA, the distribution will push me over the threshold for eligibility of not being taxed on my SS. So I will be lucky enough to contribute to a tax break for billionaires by virtue of continuing to be taxed on my Social Security.

F you, orange a$$hole and every damn Republican.

JMCKUSICK

(6,349 posts)
15. Yes, it is grotesque, especially as so many
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:58 AM
Jul 2025

(me included) struggling to access that very benefit.

Squeaky41

(435 posts)
17. Big Lie SS self pat memo.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 06:29 AM
Jul 2025

It now sits in Spam folder pending deletion
We may be above 90% bar.

mainer

(12,559 posts)
18. Yes. I thought: "WTF?"
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 06:42 AM
Jul 2025

Now SSA is being used for propaganda?
Can anyone explain what the bill says about Social Security earnings not being taxed? What is the income limit?

SunSeeker

(58,338 posts)
34. Notice how the email fails to mention these basic facts, even though it goes on for paragraphs?
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 02:23 PM
Jul 2025

That's propaganda for you.

I tried looking it up and it is far from clear. The vast majority of seniors already don’t pay tax on their Social Security. But a lot of seniors will get their Medicaid cut. This Big Ugly Bill is definitely not a win for seniors.

Wiz Imp

(10,167 posts)
36. The Bill mentions nothing about SS earnings being taxed.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:37 PM
Jul 2025

The bill was not allowed to make any changes to SS.

The bill adds a new deduction for those 65 and over , but that is not tied to SS Benefits in any way.

Beausoleil

(3,017 posts)
19. This is insidious
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 06:55 AM
Jul 2025

By federal law, taxes on SS benefits go into the SS trust fund, so this is just another way to kill the system or at least reduce benefits later.

Wiz Imp

(10,167 posts)
39. I was wrong in my assumption that taxes collected on SS Benefits don't go back to the SS Trust fund.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:55 PM
Jul 2025

However, I don't believe this will have any impact (or very little impact) on the amount of money going to the Trust Fund. See my follow-up post: https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20459565

Regardless, the amount of money previously collected for the Trust Fund is extremely small relatively speaking. The highest estimate I found for the impact of the bill is a loss of $30 billion in funds collected by the Trust Fund. That is out of approximately $1.7 trillion total collected annually by the trust fund.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,955 posts)
22. It reads like this..
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 07:16 AM
Jul 2025

The Social Security Administration (SSA) is celebrating the passage of the One Big, Beautiful Bill, a landmark piece of legislation that delivers long-awaited tax relief to millions of older Americans.

The bill ensures that nearly 90% of Social Security beneficiaries will no longer pay federal income taxes on their benefits, providing meaningful and immediate relief to seniors who have spent a lifetime contributing to our nation's economy.

“This is a historic step forward for America’s seniors,” said Social Security Commissioner Frank Bisignano. “For nearly 90 years, Social Security has been a cornerstone of economic security for older Americans. By significantly reducing the tax burden on benefits, this legislation reaffirms President Trump’s promise to protect Social Security and helps ensure that seniors can better enjoy the retirement they’ve earned."

The new law includes a provision that eliminates federal income taxes on Social Security benefits for most beneficiaries, providing relief to individuals and couples. Additionally, it provides an enhanced deduction for taxpayers aged 65 and older, ensuring that retirees can keep more of what they have earned.
________________________________________________________________________________________________What this means to me is when in January when the W-2 s come out, it will show what we end up owing because the US Treasury is SHORT. The same will happen to Tips and overtime as well.

Relief for Seniors? Hardly.

Wiz Imp

(10,167 posts)
37. The average benefit of this new deduction is an increase in after tax income of just $670
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:41 PM
Jul 2025

But that is based only on those that benefit. Many seniors already pay no income tax so this doesn't benefit them at all. The overall average benefit for seniors is likely well below $670.

Response to SunSeeker (Original post)

barbtries

(31,320 posts)
25. yes.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 08:12 AM
Jul 2025

and it's the first time I've ever receive anything like it.

pure propaganda, which is job 1 for the krasnov abomination administration

NCDem47

(3,481 posts)
28. That the SSA has to call it "Big Beautiful Bill"
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 08:17 AM
Jul 2025

GALLS me.



Recieved same email last night, so they had it keyed up and ready to go.

Has the SSA EVER sent out something so poltical?

Boy, is America going to have the dial turned up to 11 to be gaslit on all aspects of this bill.

WmChris

(762 posts)
30. Yes
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 08:27 AM
Jul 2025

Their management team has apparently decided to kiss the hand that has actively work to render them ineffective.

peggysue2

(12,554 posts)
33. Yup
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:23 AM
Jul 2025

Received it last night. Eliot was the first recipient on the board and sounded the alert.

My reaction?

WTF!

Social Security has NEVER sent out political messaging before. And how cute. This wonderful uptick will last as long as Trump is in office, add to the debt and hasten SS insolvency with all the tax cuts to the Billionaire bros.

We're not suppose to notice the poison pill in the candy.

This is a Republican CYA moment hoping we'll forget what they've done by offering a few crumbs to their senior base.

Never forget. Never forgive.

SunSeeker

(58,338 posts)
35. Meanwhile, the bill cuts Medicaid for seniors, which hurts nursing homes.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 02:27 PM
Jul 2025

A lot of seniors will end up getting kicked out of their nursing homes.

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