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LuckyCharms

(23,061 posts)
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 09:00 AM Jul 2025

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Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
1. It's a deduction from income, not a credit.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 09:05 AM
Jul 2025

LuckyCharms

(23,061 posts)
2. Do you know if it is deducted before the taxable SS calculation, or after?
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 09:08 AM
Jul 2025

In other words, does the $6,000 flow through that lengthy calculation that determines how much SS is taxable?

Thanks.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
6. I think it is off the bottom line, assuming up to $6000 of SS falls into the taxable category. But just speculating.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 09:20 AM
Jul 2025

For most of us, it's not going to be a huge financial windfall, but it might be a savings of $1000 or so a year. I'd gladly contribute that to a fund to deport trump, even though I can use the extra $80 a month.

LuckyCharms

(23,061 posts)
7. I think you are correct. Thanks.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 09:23 AM
Jul 2025

Wiz Imp

(10,392 posts)
12. The average benefit will be just a $670 increase in after tax income. That's it. $670.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 10:20 AM
Jul 2025
https://apnews.com/article/trump-congress-big-bill-tax-social-security-adea287e00c7c553f69f3667d3ef78cc
Touting a new Council of Economic Advisers analysis, the White House said Tuesday that “88% of all seniors who receive Social Security — will pay NO TAX on their Social Security benefits,” going on to say that the Senate proposal’s $6,000 senior deduction “is estimated to benefit 33.9 million seniors, including seniors not claiming Social Security. The deduction yields an average increase in after-tax income of $670 per senior who benefits from it.”


And notice that is the average " per senior who benefits from it". Since many won't benefit at all, the average benefit to ALL seniors is almost certainly far less than $670.

multigraincracker

(38,031 posts)
3. Does it apply to joint income?
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 09:10 AM
Jul 2025

I'm retired and wife still works.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
5. According to Yahoo Finance it's $12K for couples. But not sure that applies if one's spouse is under 65.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 09:17 AM
Jul 2025

"The new temporary tax break — $6,000 for individuals and $12,000 for couples — is for tax filers age 65 and older. It starts phasing out for those who earn over $75,000 ($150,000 for couples)." --Yahoo Fiance.

Lovie777

(23,696 posts)
4. My Gpa already gets reduction in total income..........
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 09:12 AM
Jul 2025

from the retirement and other income coming to him every month so when tax time comes, it's automatic (H & R Block).

But seniors have to make over $80 thousand and up for such, to my understanding.

Seniors that make less than a certain amount be it, and I really don't know what that amount is, gets no deduction.

Wiz Imp

(10,392 posts)
11. This is the new senior ta deduction in the bill
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 10:16 AM
Jul 2025
https://www.fidelity.com/learning-center/personal-finance/one-big-beautiful-bill
An added senior tax deduction. People who are age 65 and older will get an additional $6,000 deduction that begins to phase out at incomes of $75,000 for single filers and $150,000 for joint filers. Note: The enhanced deduction would be in addition to the $2,000 single filers and $3,200 married filers are currently able to deduct if they are 65 or older.

lindysalsagal

(22,996 posts)
8. Are retirement pensions "income"? If not, most won't even get this.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 10:02 AM
Jul 2025

D_Master81

(2,677 posts)
9. Yes
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 10:06 AM
Jul 2025

Pensions are generally considered income

Wiz Imp

(10,392 posts)
10. The average benefit will be just a $670 increase in after tax income. That's it. $670.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 10:13 AM
Jul 2025
https://apnews.com/article/trump-congress-big-bill-tax-social-security-adea287e00c7c553f69f3667d3ef78cc
Touting a new Council of Economic Advisers analysis, the White House said Tuesday that “88% of all seniors who receive Social Security — will pay NO TAX on their Social Security benefits,” going on to say that the Senate proposal’s $6,000 senior deduction “is estimated to benefit 33.9 million seniors, including seniors not claiming Social Security. The deduction yields an average increase in after-tax income of $670 per senior who benefits from it.”


And notice that is the average " per senior who benefits from it". Since many won't benefit at all, the average benefit to ALL seniors is almost certainly far less than $670.
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