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The loudest Christian in the room: (Original Post) applegrove Jul 2025 OP
Yep when you ask your male teen child to get on a porn app with you, says it all. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #1
That and the Purity Ball for his daughter are why I call him Li'l Pervy. Barf Hekate Jul 2025 #11
Yes very creepy and inappropriate. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #21
Pretty sure it's more accurate to call it an 'anti-porn app' AZJonnie Jul 2025 #14
I would have phoned this in for sure. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #19
That is not how Johnson presented the story of how they came to use the app AZJonnie Jul 2025 #61
Defending Mike won't work, I specifically remember a mutuality to the porn site ap Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #62
I think your first mistake is Disaffected Jul 2025 #63
I'd bet any amount of money Johnson has tons of porn on his computer Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #2
Yes child porn with male kids. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #20
OK, what actual evidence do you have for this Disaffected Jul 2025 #31
Not an accusation. Just an opinion. Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #32
OK, you say it's an opinion. Disaffected Jul 2025 #40
What and the rightwing bible thumpers never make accusations they can't prove...... excuse me while I clean the coffee usaf-vet Jul 2025 #55
Of course the "rightwing bible thumpers make accusations they can't prove". Disaffected Jul 2025 #58
There's a term in Eastern Orthodox Christianity: *prelest* sprinkleeninow Jul 2025 #3
Fascinating. I never heard of "prelest" tho it figures that there'd be a word for the phenomenon... Hekate Jul 2025 #12
Just quoting. I did not say this, but HE did... sprinkleeninow Jul 2025 #44
This Hekate Jul 2025 #47
prelest --- Like Trump claiming that he does not need Christ's forgiveness? Norrrm Jul 2025 #41
Looks like one of them dropped a contact lens. LastDemocratInSC Jul 2025 #4
Looks like an excuse to touch each other and hug. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #22
One can only imagine their 'holy' Christian behavior ... Tarzanrock Jul 2025 #50
That photo scares me as much as if they were wearing Nazi uniforms and saluting the swastika flag. sinkingfeeling Jul 2025 #5
It should... for next to Hitler and his henchmen slightlv Jul 2025 #8
What a bunch of dipshits. jalan48 Jul 2025 #6
They are praying to their god of evil Clouds Passing Jul 2025 #7
Isn't he the porn addict that needs his son to monitor JI7 Jul 2025 #9
Yup. That's why I call him Li'l Pervy Hekate Jul 2025 #13
yes Evolve Dammit Jul 2025 #34
Epstien Iamscrewed Jul 2025 #10
Clowns. Girard442 Jul 2025 #15
The lying murderous hypocrites desperately needed a bolt of lightning dalton99a Jul 2025 #16
8 evil white men mountain grammy Jul 2025 #25
They are NOT praying to God Traildogbob Jul 2025 #26
"In the name of Republican Jesus, let us PREY...' alterfurz Jul 2025 #52
These assholes don't understand the first part of the Constitution or the Bible. Initech Jul 2025 #17
sanctimonous fucking hypocrites Skittles Jul 2025 #18
One of the most famous quotes attribiuted to Ghandi DFW Jul 2025 #23
Political theater... dlk Jul 2025 #24
As I learned it, Jesus recommended hiding in your closet to pray, calimary Jul 2025 #27
That's how I learned it but these guys most likely never read the Beatitudes or the lesson Jesus taught about prayer Deuxcents Jul 2025 #29
That's how I learned it too. debm55 Jul 2025 #39
Oh, I don't think Johnson would ever do that to pray. llmart Jul 2025 #53
Kneel before me and let us pray for the glory and the power of the almighty dollar or crypto. Buddyzbuddy Jul 2025 #28
What a disgusting group of morons. What exactly is the purpose of that BS? walkingman Jul 2025 #30
Public angels ... Godot51 Jul 2025 #33
Jesus din like him Just Jerome Jul 2025 #35
A cult within a cult. Deranged, self-proclaimed "x-tians" Evolve Dammit Jul 2025 #36
Oh my gosh! Mtnmama Jul 2025 #37
Actually, it looks like they are all Mtnmama Jul 2025 #38
Did they not read the part where Jesus says to welcome the stranger? surfered Jul 2025 #42
Make sure your prayer is a public spectacle. Norrrm Jul 2025 #43
I call them double cultists. SamKnause Jul 2025 #45
Maybe if they all wore Jesus costumes moondust Jul 2025 #46
Praying for the continuation of their paychecks. 70sEraVet Jul 2025 #48
OMG, I hadn't seen that!!! CTyankee Jul 2025 #49
There was a Gospel about that. Norbert Jul 2025 #51
More thoughts and prayers. Gimpyknee Jul 2025 #54
"Beware the God Squad, my son....." n/t DFW Jul 2025 #56
This is the answer to Right Wing Christians when they ask why everyone hates them. Oneironaut Jul 2025 #57
True. Martin68 Jul 2025 #59
Praying for... this: IcyPeas Jul 2025 #60

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
1. Yep when you ask your male teen child to get on a porn app with you, says it all.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:09 PM
Jul 2025

Johnson should have been reported to child services for that BS.

AZJonnie

(3,703 posts)
14. Pretty sure it's more accurate to call it an 'anti-porn app'
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:35 PM
Jul 2025

I mean obviously it's weirdo thing to do in conjunction with one's minor child, but I really don't see how it enters into the realm of a CPS matter?

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
19. I would have phoned this in for sure.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:50 PM
Jul 2025

An adult male does not engage with a minor child around ANY KIND OF PORN site.
I don't care what the hell they pretend the site is.

It is still interacting with a minor child in an inappropriate way.

If the father has problems with controlling his sexual urges he is not supposed
to ask for help from his minor child.

If they were in therapy with me, I would give the father 24 hours to delete the
site off of his child's phone and not discuss his sex life with minor children.
If he did not comply or dropped out of therapy I would phone it in to CSB.

AZJonnie

(3,703 posts)
61. That is not how Johnson presented the story of how they came to use the app
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 03:27 AM
Jul 2025

As I recall Maga Mike had an app that alerted him if his kid viewed porn. This is VERY COMMON, and in fact, it's responsible behavior for parents to keep tabs on their minor children in this (and many other ways) when it comes to their online interactions. Apparently the kid found out and like a smartass challenged his dad to give him the same app to monitor his dad in the same way to make sure HE wasn't viewing smut.

Weird, admittedly, but if one goes by the assumption that dad doesn't view porn (or at least isn't going to get caught doing so by his kid), and says 'okay, sure, I'll set an example by proving to you that I do not watch porn', I wouldn't react to learning that by thinking CPS needs to be called. First of all it's a father and son which is a little different than father and daughter, and also, this kid was not, as I recall, like 12 or something, he was 15 or 16.

Again, weird, but really not anyone else's business but large caveat here that's ASSUMING that what they said about it was presented honestly, and the son is not in fact getting 'porn watching tips' from dad thru this app as some seem to assume.

Don't get me wrong, I think the dude is creepy and weird, and he sucks big time, but this particular bit of ephemera is way low in my list of why I hate Maga Mike

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
62. Defending Mike won't work, I specifically remember a mutuality to the porn site ap
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 05:04 AM
Jul 2025

Both father and minor child were alerted if either one used a porn site.
It was clearly inappropriate.

I guess you and I operate quite differently as professional clinicians.

To my credit, after 40 years of practice, I had not one suicide, homicide, law suit or board complaint.
This is a huge accomplishment and I am still shocked I was able to do this compared to most clinicians.

I always followed the law, the ethics, and clinical guidelines.
I didn't run a sloppy, incompetent practice.
If you are a clinician I advise you to think long and hard about my advice.

And I listened to my intuition when my alarm bells went off.

My alarm bells are going off with the Johnson family.

We also saw pictures of Mike before he was married with a good looking
teenage "foster son" who lived with him.

We can see Mike's constant dishonesty, disregard for the welfare of the American people,
obsession with other people's sexuality, and alignment with a known criminal.
Sharing porn aps with his son is just the tip of the iceberg.


Disaffected

(6,399 posts)
63. I think your first mistake is
Mon Jul 7, 2025, 01:09 PM
Jul 2025

"listening to my intuition". Trump also does that a lot as I understand it...

It is perfectly fine IMO to have concerns and suspicions, which appear to be well warranted in this case, but, it is quite another thing to conflate that with actual fact as a lot here seem to be doing.

Wiz Imp

(9,991 posts)
2. I'd bet any amount of money Johnson has tons of porn on his computer
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:27 PM
Jul 2025

And it wouldn't surprise me if it included child porn.

Disaffected

(6,399 posts)
31. OK, what actual evidence do you have for this
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:25 PM
Jul 2025

rather reckless accusation? Other than gossip and innuendo....

Wiz Imp

(9,991 posts)
32. Not an accusation. Just an opinion.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:48 PM
Jul 2025

I'm not a liar like Johnson who has repeatedly and knowingly lied saying that OBBB does not cut Medicaid

Disaffected

(6,399 posts)
40. OK, you say it's an opinion.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:18 PM
Jul 2025

Still wondering though what evidence you have to substantiate betting "...any amount of money that Johnson has tons of porn on his computer".

Whatever one thinks of Mike Johnson, even he IMO deserves better than that.

BTW, I'll take that bet if you care to suggest an amount (bearing in mind of course that the burden of proof rests with yourself).

usaf-vet

(7,811 posts)
55. What and the rightwing bible thumpers never make accusations they can't prove...... excuse me while I clean the coffee
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 11:34 AM
Jul 2025

.... I spit out at your laughable accusations.

Disaffected

(6,399 posts)
58. Of course the "rightwing bible thumpers make accusations they can't prove".
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 12:26 PM
Jul 2025

Very true but also completely beside the point.

Other than that, your comments make no sense.

sprinkleeninow

(22,343 posts)
3. There's a term in Eastern Orthodox Christianity: *prelest*
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:29 PM
Jul 2025
In Eastern Orthodox Christian tradition, prelest refers to a state of spiritual delusion or deception, often characterized by a false sense of holiness or spiritual superiority. It's a spiritual illness, distinct from mental illness, stemming from pride, vainglory, and demonic suggestion. Essentially, it's when a person mistakes falsehood for truth in their spiritual life, hindering genuine progress and leading to a distorted understanding of their relationship with God.

Here's a more detailed explanation:
Spiritual Delusion:
Prelest is a type of self-deception where an individual believes they are more spiritually advanced or righteous than they truly are.
Pride and Vainglory:
This delusion is often fueled by pride and vainglory, leading to a distorted perception of one's spiritual state and an inflated sense of self-importance.

Notice the laying on of hands, praying photo...

Attribution: Google AI

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
12. Fascinating. I never heard of "prelest" tho it figures that there'd be a word for the phenomenon...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:32 PM
Jul 2025

I just remember that both Isaiah and Jesus had some pungent things to say about the inner rottenness involved.

sprinkleeninow

(22,343 posts)
44. Just quoting. I did not say this, but HE did...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:21 PM
Jul 2025
Matthew 23:27: In this verse, Jesus criticizes the scribes and Pharisees, comparing them to "whitewashed tombs" which appear beautiful on the outside but are full of dead men's bones and uncleanness within. This imagery highlights their hypocrisy, suggesting they appear righteous outwardly but are full of sin and corruption inwardly.

Norrrm

(5,046 posts)
41. prelest --- Like Trump claiming that he does not need Christ's forgiveness?
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:39 PM
Jul 2025

Because he is such a good and moral Christian.

 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
50. One can only imagine their 'holy' Christian behavior ...
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:49 AM
Jul 2025

inside a hot sweaty 'steam room' once they remove their towels in the House Congressional 'bath house' and 'gymnasium.'


sinkingfeeling

(57,832 posts)
5. That photo scares me as much as if they were wearing Nazi uniforms and saluting the swastika flag.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:06 PM
Jul 2025

slightlv

(7,789 posts)
8. It should... for next to Hitler and his henchmen
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:20 PM
Jul 2025

there's nothing more murderous than Xtians with a "cause" for whom no one else can equal.

Having said that, the first thing I thought of upon seeing the pic, in addition to just disgust was Ah! Cosplay!!!

Girard442

(6,885 posts)
15. Clowns.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:37 PM
Jul 2025

And, yes, I realize that's a slander on good honest actual hard-working clowns, who make people smile.

Traildogbob

(13,017 posts)
26. They are NOT praying to God
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:08 PM
Jul 2025

They are taking a knee to Trump and praying to him to spare them.

Initech

(108,772 posts)
17. These assholes don't understand the first part of the Constitution or the Bible.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:46 PM
Jul 2025

Our government is not your church! Get out now!

Skittles

(171,702 posts)
18. sanctimonous fucking hypocrites
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:46 PM
Jul 2025

they are probably praying for even more money for themsevles

DFW

(60,180 posts)
23. One of the most famous quotes attribiuted to Ghandi
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 04:59 PM
Jul 2025

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."


One of the most accurate observations about our "public Christians" ever made.

Not "Christian Science," but more like "Christian Select."

"We are devout Christians---except for this part, this part, this part, this part and this part. Other than that, though......"

calimary

(90,010 posts)
27. As I learned it, Jesus recommended hiding in your closet to pray,
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:10 PM
Jul 2025

NOT out on stage or sounding off in public to get attention and admiration from others.

At least that’s one of my takeaways from Catholic school.

Deuxcents

(26,912 posts)
29. That's how I learned it but these guys most likely never read the Beatitudes or the lesson Jesus taught about prayer
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:22 PM
Jul 2025

This is a showmanship that Jesus would condemn..as I was taught

llmart

(17,614 posts)
53. Oh, I don't think Johnson would ever do that to pray.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 11:08 AM
Jul 2025

He'd be afraid that the next day's headlines would read, "Mike Johnson just came out of the closet."

Buddyzbuddy

(2,616 posts)
28. Kneel before me and let us pray for the glory and the power of the almighty dollar or crypto.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:21 PM
Jul 2025

No discrimination amongst denominations.
Get those poor needy heathens OUT!

Mtnmama

(154 posts)
37. Oh my gosh!
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:06 PM
Jul 2025

Is that an actual picture? The outright gall, such hypocritics. All they care about is appearances, but to me their hypocricies are monumental. As Jesus said, in heaven, the first will be last, and the last will be first. But, of course, how can they even get into heaven?!





Mtnmama

(154 posts)
38. Actually, it looks like they are all
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:07 PM
Jul 2025

Bowing down to trump, physically and legislatively.

Norrrm

(5,046 posts)
43. Make sure your prayer is a public spectacle.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 07:49 PM
Jul 2025

Make sure your prayer is a public spectacle.

Matthew 6:5-8 King James Version

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

SamKnause

(14,896 posts)
45. I call them double cultists.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:37 PM
Jul 2025

They are members of the trump cult.

They are members of a religious cult.

They are the greatest threat this country has ever faced.

moondust

(21,286 posts)
46. Maybe if they all wore Jesus costumes
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:39 PM
Jul 2025

people would stop identifying them by their deeds as Satan's army.

Norbert

(7,762 posts)
51. There was a Gospel about that.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 08:54 AM
Jul 2025

about a Pharisee praying out loud so everyone could hear and a man off in the corner praying tht he is now worthy. I wouldn't be surprised of it is part of the book of Matthew. The gist of the reading is, Jesus is not impressed with the loud talkers.

Oneironaut

(6,299 posts)
57. This is the answer to Right Wing Christians when they ask why everyone hates them.
Sun Jul 6, 2025, 12:15 PM
Jul 2025

Your entire persona is bullshit, and, you are the biggest hypocrites in the world. Your leaders are all performative and do not live by their own rules, nor do you. And yet, you judge others so harshly.

Does anyone actually think these guys are praying? This is all for the cameras. Otherwise, why would they be doing this out in the open? They're virtue signaling that they aren't rich parasites who have 99% of the wealth and just want more. They aren't the guys who want to kill your grandma and mother so that they can make the arbitrary total in their bank account go up to feed their own sickness. No - They're holy, God-fearing men! They're just like Jesus!

You all make people want to vomit. Nobody is fooled. We would rather you be your true selves in public and rob us blind than wrapping yourself in sanctimonious bullshit.

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