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Swede

(40,100 posts)
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:11 PM Jul 2025

RFK's proposal to let bird flu spread through poultry could set us up for a pandemic, experts warn

A bunch of incompetent clowns, running a circus.

HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rollins have expressed interest in letting H5N1 outbreaks spread unchecked through U.S. poultry farms. Health experts warn it could lead to a new pandemic.

https://www.livescience.com/health/flu/rfks-proposal-to-let-bird-flu-spread-through-poultry-could-set-us-up-for-a-pandemic-experts-warn

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RFK's proposal to let bird flu spread through poultry could set us up for a pandemic, experts warn (Original Post) Swede Jul 2025 OP
I just can't...... RandySF Jul 2025 #1
Not to mention expensive eggs, again. Ocelot II Jul 2025 #2
Right. I'm sure Trump voters don't give a damn about a possible pandemic Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #4
They'll find a way. Harker Jul 2025 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author sprinkleeninow Jul 2025 #3
$12 eggs and no fried chicken bucolic_frolic Jul 2025 #5
Tofu!!! Demovictory9 Jul 2025 #7
That's my daily protein, and the price will probably skyrocket with the increased demand. Harker Jul 2025 #19
Don't worry! Those "ultra masculine" MAGAts wouldn't be caught dead eating tofu. Lucky Luciano Jul 2025 #23
Kyoto is on my list, thank you! Harker Jul 2025 #26
They want to cull the herd. GoCubsGo Jul 2025 #6
Alpha-gal... oldsoldierfadingfast Jul 2025 #8
"You're all gonna die anyway." - G.O.P. BoRaGard Jul 2025 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2025 #10
Hush.. The people who own books are speaking. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2025 #12
We need to let ebola spread through this administration right now. milestogo Jul 2025 #11
Guess Jr missed the law class on the day viral mutations were discussed. nt allegorical oracle Jul 2025 #13
therefore no country will accept exported US chicken DBoon Jul 2025 #14
MAGAT-head sez whaaat? B.See Jul 2025 #15
They are playing dice with our nation's health. Midnight Writer Jul 2025 #16
Let him be the first to get bird flu. vanlassie Jul 2025 #17
Anyone who actually takes medical advice of any sort from RFK Jr. is a complete moron. MLWR Jul 2025 #20
What an absolute dickhead. No regard for the farmers, or us. Resign asshole. Evolve Dammit Jul 2025 #21
That was 47's approach to Covid 19. Among other ridiculous non-starters. Texin Jul 2025 #22
A corrupt sick dangerous man. Passages Jul 2025 #24
What is wrong with these people?! EndlessWire Jul 2025 #25
I think they believe in herd immunity to produce a superior species. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #27
So who do you want making major health decisions for you? flashman13 Jul 2025 #28

Wiz Imp

(10,446 posts)
4. Right. I'm sure Trump voters don't give a damn about a possible pandemic
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:24 PM
Jul 2025

But they won't be happy about skyrocketing inflation. This would not only mean significant increases in egg prices, it will increase the price of chicken and any products with chicken in them.

And in this case, I don't think a "blame it on Biden or Democrats" strategy would work very well.

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Harker

(18,164 posts)
19. That's my daily protein, and the price will probably skyrocket with the increased demand.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:41 PM
Jul 2025

Lucky Luciano

(11,875 posts)
23. Don't worry! Those "ultra masculine" MAGAts wouldn't be caught dead eating tofu.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:03 PM
Jul 2025

I eat meat, but I do love good tofu. It has to be the silken or soft variety or I don’t care for it. The best I’ve ever had were in Japanese restaurants.

This one is amazing if you ever get to Japan. Best tofu experience ever.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g298564-d1173256-Reviews-Yudofu_Sagano-Kyoto_Kyoto_Prefecture_Kinki.html

Harker

(18,164 posts)
26. Kyoto is on my list, thank you!
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:31 PM
Jul 2025

We're hoping to make it to Scotland next year, so Japan is pretty far down the road, but I've long hoped to go.

8. Alpha-gal...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:35 PM
Jul 2025

may explode this summer due to hot, humid weather bringing an explosion of ticks and tick-born diseases.
People who get alpha-gal can not eat meat or any other product for 4-legged animals - no milk for morning coffee!
What does that leave us? Fish filled with plastics and no chicken and/or eggs.
Wine and chocolates, anyone?

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DBoon

(25,152 posts)
14. therefore no country will accept exported US chicken
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:03 PM
Jul 2025

poultry farmers can kiss of the EU market and likely the rest of the world too

Midnight Writer

(25,758 posts)
16. They are playing dice with our nation's health.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:28 PM
Jul 2025

This is a guy who is willing to gamble that the roadkill he picks up and eats is not disease-laden.

This is a guy that is willing to gamble that the polluted pond he and his family swim in will not infect them.

This is a guy that is willing to gamble that America will get by just fine without all those fancy vaccines.

This is a guy who goes barefoot into public toilets, who has injected black-market heroin into his veins, who presents scientific papers with fake citations.

Just because he is in love with risky behavior doesn't mean he should be able to drag us all into his thrill-seeking gambles.

Public health should not be gambled with any more than your doctor should roll dice to determine your treatment.

MLWR

(1,082 posts)
20. Anyone who actually takes medical advice of any sort from RFK Jr. is a complete moron.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 05:44 PM
Jul 2025

He is NOT a physician and he has no degrees in any of the life sciences. He's a lawyer with a boatload of very dumb ideas.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
25. What is wrong with these people?!
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:30 PM
Jul 2025

How utterly stupid they are! Bird flu is busy jumping species. It is insane to knowingly ignore it, thinking that YOU won't get it!

And, why did he speak about the bird flu? What isn't he telling us?

It seems to me that this is what you do when you realize that there's nothing you can do about it. He gave up. Also, DOGE fired the scientists that might have found a way to stop it. He's spouting off exactly what Trump did when HE had to confront Covid-19. No plan to do anything but sit there and watch.

I'm not sure what psychopathy this is, but I am amazed when trump's sycophants pop off with idiocy. Rumpy hired the stupidest, most unqualified people in the universe. And, all I think about is how rump said he was going to let him do anything he wanted to our health system. There is no leadership. rump doesn't have to make any decisions. I wonder if Bob realizes that rump set him up to take the fall for a pandemic?

We the People have long fought for treatments and cures in health care, and preventive medicine by way of vaccinations. And now comes along a complete idiot to erase all the science of it. An IDIOT.

Irish_Dem

(82,386 posts)
27. I think they believe in herd immunity to produce a superior species.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:39 PM
Jul 2025

Let illness, virus, cancer, bacteria spread throughout the population.
The old, weak, infirm, "inferior" stock will all die.

Kind of like Hitler's eugenics program.

flashman13

(2,566 posts)
28. So who do you want making major health decisions for you?
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 06:43 PM
Jul 2025

A burned out old ex-junkie with a hole in his brain, or a lunatic leftest scientist with a PHD in biology? Take you time.

H5N1 is 100% fatal in domestic chickens. So the bozo with the hole in his brain wants to let the virus run uncontrolled through farms in search of the magic chicken that is immune. Oh, if you do find this magic chicken, maybe you can use it's immunity to develop a new vaccine. Wait! What? We don't believe in vaccines any longer so why look for that chicken. It's all quite absurd.

All of the infected birds are going to die no matter what we do. The choice is to mercifully euthanize them or let millions of bird writhe on barn floors dying a miserable death. Then don't compensate the farmers that just watched this inhumane spectacle, so that the farm dies too. And you can be sure that it will take a horrific toll on wild birds. But don't worry. If this flu does mutate so that it becomes transmissible between humans, you can be sure that your government will have your back all of the way to the morgue.

The attached article in the post is very informative.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PRICE OF EGGS???

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