Texas

[orangecrush]

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[LilElf70]

1. My question is:

How do you produce 30 FEET of water in and hour from a flash flood. Imagine what this means. You don't know it when it first starts and really have no defense to protect yourself, and not knowing you were about to take on 30 feet of water. Your 1 story ranch house would be 10 feet UNDER WATER. That's like a tsunami. WIthout the ocean to actually create it. How can that possibly happen? From a flash flood?

If only we would have listened decades ago, when people claimed this was going to happen?

[orangecrush]

3. Terrifying to watch occupied houses being swept away

You could see people in the doorways as the water carried the whole house at speeds hard to believe.

[berniesandersmittens]

51. Has there been any word on those people in the house?

I can't find anything on the web.

Hearing their screams as they floated off ...dear fuck shit man...

[orangecrush]

52. Not that I know of

I hope they're ok.

[Melon]

5. 6 months of rain in 2 days. The majority that day.

That area got 15” inches on rocky soil. Plus everything up river was coming. Camp mystic had been right where it was for 100 years and had no history like this to go off.

The storm system kept recycling itself over the same area and creating new storms. The people on here playing the blame game are doing it for optics or their own self hatred. They are recovering bodies from fifteen foot up in trees right now.

[wolfie001]

14. Yes! A hundred square miles of heavy rain channeling down natural gullies multiplies the effect dramatically

Scary to think of. This same compounding factor happened to NC and those rednecks had NO PROBLEM blaming everything on Biden, however. Talk about optics? Are we supposed to not vent every now and then? I mean, with the whole Democracy thing going to sh7t? Sometimes people need to let it out. Hot Wheels was quick to blame the Federal Government by the way. Just a thought.

[slightlv]

23. Back in the 80's, we in the sticks surrounding the KC area

had major flooding of the MO river. My grandma's little burg got hit bad. Before any flooding, we got as close to her house as we could in the car, and then walked from there. We set her organ and piano up on stacks as high as we could get them, rescued some family treasures that we could carry, and then headed back to the car. About halfway there, my boyfriend ended up carrying me because the water was over my hips and I had trouble moving against it. I actually have no idea how we got from her place to the car; it was so long ago, and trying to get the organ lifted and the fear I felt was all the memory I'm left with... that, and being carried.

After the flooding had subsided, we took a drive back to see what was left. Amazingly, her little house had been spared the worst of the damage we saw around us. But it was absolutely amazing the things we saw in the treetops as we drove - even cars. At 16, it blew me away what water could do. Up until that point, I'd had no idea. Seeing it on TV or reading about it doesn't leave the impact like being in it.

My mom used to tell about the flood that hit my hometown in 1957. The family was living above a pharmacy, and they watched the water race down Main St. taking trees and cars and anything else in its way.

I've had bad luck with fire in my adult life... but water where it shouldn't be still scares the bejesus out of me.

[Hugin]

24. In the lead up to the storm as it passed over here the evaporation rate was tremendous...

I've never seen anything like it.

I had a glass with about 5" of water sitting in it when I went to bed. It was dry the next morning when I got up. Also, a previous wind/rainstorm from a few days prior had knocked down a branch in my yard. It was fresh. Green leaves and elastic branches. When I did get out to pick it up, it was as dry and brittle as if it had been there for months. All of that water had to go somewhere.

[Oopsie Daisy]

2. Well... good luck, Texas. Start your own weather service and satellite observations. Fund your own *

* emergency management agency and don't come begging for help. Y'all did this to yourselves.

It's difficult for me to feel pity for someone who has been repeatedly and forcefully told "don't place your hand on the red stove burner because it's HOT" ... but they do it anyway.

Some lessons are easy, some lessons are hard, some lessons are painful. And some folks are too stupid to learn the lesson the first time around.

[allegorical oracle]

11. Tx officials just warned residents that they must prepare for lengthy electric

outages. Wasn't that a problem during that storm, "Harvey," some years ago? Texas has its own, independent grid. Because of that it doesn't participate in outage reciprocity -- that's when surrounding states send electric crews in to speed up repairs.

That seems short-sighted.

[BidenRocks]

18. Abbott was just bragging up his grid a couple days ago.

The comments here blasted him for not acknowledging the benefits of solar and wind into his mix.

I guess that was also bullshit.
"Not a lie, just.. Bullshit!" Elwood Blues

[markodochartaigh]

30. And the grid going down can affect things hundreds of miles away.

In 2008 I was taking a class in the hospital in Dallas where I worked. It was hosted on servers at UTMB in Galveston. As Hurricane Ike came onshore at Galveston, Galveston lost power and 250 miles away our class came to a halt.

[TheProle]

47. The children who are missing can't vote but your humanity is touching.

[Oopsie Daisy]

48. I know. Thanks for noticing.

🥰❤️

[RandomNumbers]

53. Children everywhere suffer for the stupidity of adults.

That is one thing that is globally shared.

[bronxiteforever]

4. Horrible.

[orangecrush]

9. They got no warning

Thanks to pisswig cutting NOAA funding.

[Justice matters.]

6. Vegas

coal the convicted idiot said

[Metaphorical]

38. Nevada Ghost Towns

There was a series a few years back, Life After People, that explored the ramifications of what would happen if people were to disappear tomorrow. One particular segment of the show looked at how quickly the desert would reclaim towns in Nevada, and the estimate was less than a decade. One particular city (I don't remember which) started out as a gold mining center that eventually became a major gambling hub before Las Vegas was established in the 1950s. Loss of revenue from the newer city, water drying up, sandstorms and the rise of the Interstates meant that by 1995 or thereabouts, the city was literally disappearing under the sand. That will be Las Vegas' fate one day as well, particularly as water rights become more and more contentious, and it will likely also be the fate of cities like Scottsdale, AZ.

[spike jones]

7. not appropriate to post here, but has anyone else felt the need to listen to Stevie Ray Vaughan's Texas Flood?

[orangecrush]

8. Good jam

And I don't think it's inappropriate.

[spike jones]

10. Yeah, it is posted below in Music Appreciation.

[orangecrush]

12. And here, for anyone wondering

Songs about floods in the Blues go back to the 1920's, mainly about the Mississippi Delta.

They are a way of expressing grief, and about the suffering of the poor in these disasters.

One of the commenters on this clip is actually in the flood zone, and everyone wishes Texas well. Those poor people never saw it coming.

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[moonshinegnomie]

13. its even worse....

timeline of NWS warning that the MAGA morons in kerr county ignored


Early Week: NWS offices (San Antonio & Austin) flagged heavy rain potential by Sunday, extending alerts through Wednesday.

By Tuesday–Wednesday: Messaging mentioned Thursday flood risk.Thursday: Flood watches were issued. By late afternoon, a “Slight Risk” of excessive rain (WPC 2/4) was highlighted—which in hindsight may have underplayed the potential.

How Did the Weather Models Perform? HRRR: Wednesday night runs showed 7–9" bullseyes; by Thursday morning, projected 10–13" and later up to 20" in key flash-flood zones.

HREF: Also signaled >10? potential early Thursday using probability-matched mean—providing solid foresight for forecasters

flash Flood Warnings kicked off just before midnight Friday as rain rates exceeded 3–4"/hr.Flash Flood Emergencies were declared around 4 AM Friday in Kerrville and near San Angelo as over 10" fell



the NWS issued a flood warning at about 1:15. it wasnt until 4 hours later that the police told people to evacuate. it was 2 hours after that before the city of kerrville did the same.

In addition the camps that wer destroyed have been around for 100 years but are located in the highest flood risk zone according to FEMA flood maps.

the people who ran the camp and the local officials should be held personally responsible. this is more incomptence by texas officials just like in Uvalde.

In addition thanks to DOGE the NWS office has fewer meteorologists on staff than normal.


10 years there was a similar catastrophic flood south of austin. but the state despite running a huge budget surplus hasnt bothered to install flood warning sirens along the river..... they would rather go after LGBTQ and the poor.....and once again people died due to their incompetence

[orangecrush]

21. Putin is doing backflips.

[Takket]

15. Humbling... for all our technology, nature is so much more powerful than anything we can muster up

[Passages]

16. Horrified.

[PatSeg]

17. It has an Armageddon feel to it

This and the dust storms in Vegas. End-timers must be thrilled.

[BidenRocks]

19. I resemble that!

Glad to be 70 and closer to the end than the beginning.

[PatSeg]

35. Ah yes

That thought occurs to me quite often these days. Good to see so many young people step up because I really don't have the energy anymore.

[orangecrush]

20. ....

Proverbs 17:5 states, "Whoever mocks the poor insults his Maker; he who rejoices at calamity will not go unpunished"

[PatSeg]

37. They tend to cherry pick the bible

and probably missed that verse, along with almost everything that Jesus taught as well.

[orangecrush]

39. Truth

[PatSeg]

41. I've gotten into some really bizarre and interesting

discussions with fundamentalists over the years and the way they twist and distort the words in the bible to suit their own agenda is remarkable, as well as often laughable.

One Southern Baptist minister told me Jesus never drank wine. When the bible mentions "wine", they are actually referring to fruit juice.

[orangecrush]

44. Kind of like Trump's cult

Living in their separate reality

[PatSeg]

50. Yes, very much so

[electricmonk]

22. I haven't watched that video but wondering if

it is actually any good or accurate? Just wondering because I see those channels on my recommendations page all the time but I never click on them because of the exaggerated thumbnail art. I just figure the rest of it is clickbait too.

[moonshinegnomie]

27. is accurate

i live about 2 hours east of kerrville. we didnt get near that amount of rain but the creek near me which is normally almost dry or has a little water in it now literally has whitewater rapids on it.

when it floods here it doesnt screw around. water on teh guadalupe river rose 20 feet in an hour.

[electricmonk]

34. Thanks, I'll give it a watch

[blogslug]

49. I never watch YT videos with AI-generated thumbnails

I click the three little dots and choose "Do Not Recommend This Channel".

[slightlv]

25. I need to call my SiL

She and her husband had their retirement home built in Seguin and they just moved in a couple of years ago. I've been sick in bed and haven't heard of any of this until now. I hope they're okay. She was my best friend long before I met and married her brother. Did the flooding hit around there? Or was it more to the north and west?

[moonshinegnomie]

28. sequin should be fine

the problems are all to the west

[orangecrush]

32. See post 29

And I hope I'm wrong and you are right.

[moonshinegnomie]

36. im well aware

i live in austin. the floods are in NW travis county any the hill country. seguin has gotten a little rain but less than 1/2 inch.

[orangecrush]

40. Thank you.

[slightlv]

42. I just got off the phone with her...

she is to the east of all of this, and they're doing okay... except she sounds like she's got as much hatred for trump and abbott bottled up inside her as I do. She said they were just up to Kerrville a couple of weeks ago, and now this. (sigh)

We had a laugh, tho... they'd been in drought for so long that a few weeks ago they finally invested in a sprinkler system for their lawn. Just after they installed it and used in one day, the rains came and haven't stopped coming. Damn, I miss her...

[orangecrush]

45. Glad you reached out

So some good came of this

[orangecrush]

29. Sorry to bear sad news

And hoping for the best for your friends

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Flash flooding emergency continues northeast of Gruene
River Road is being evacuated, Comal County Sheriff’s Office says
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Published: July 5, 2025 at 10:01 AM
Updated: July 5, 2025 at 5:20 PM
Tags: Seguin, Guadalupe County, Comal County Sheriff's Office

Flooding on River Road along the Guadalupe River on Saturday, July 5, 2025. (Josh Brotoline)


SEGUIN, Texas – A flash flood emergency remains in effect for River Road along the Guadalupe River, between Sattler and Gruene, due to heavy tropical downpours Saturday.

The National Weather Service extended the warning until 6:30 p.m. Saturday for east central Comal County.

The original warning, which expired at 3 p.m., originally included north central Bexar County, west central Comal County, southern Williamson County, southwestern Caldwell County, northwestern Gonzales County and eastern Guadalupe County.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2025/07/05/flash-flooding-and-torrential-rain-in-seguin-new-braunfels-areas/

[rickyhall]

26. Got me thinking of SRV.

[orangecrush]

31. "Texas Flood" us posted upthread

Fitting.

[Metaphorical]

33. Flash floods are a real danger in Texas

The ground is normally very non-porous and very flat, which means that the watersheds in the region tend to follow man-made structures rather than natural geography. I suspect the region has always been susceptible to flash floods, given that the Houston/Galveston gulf area seems to be the likely destination of any hurricanes that pass through the channel through the Keys or that hit Cuba, but the massive buildup in Houston and Austin in particular have meant that human impacts are redefining the watersheds and making flash floods far more destructive.

[slightlv]

43. I remember being caught around Nacogdoches road in SA

with my folks in the car, visiting me. We started out with just a little rain, headed downtown. We saw water coming towards us and I turned around and headed the other way as quick as I could. There's just nothing like rain in San Antonio... it floods everywhere, it seems.

But it's also the only place I've ever lived where I actually stood on a sidewalk on one side of the street and watched it rain on the other side of the street, and never once got wet on my side.

[orangecrush]

46. We've had some flash flooding in this area

Nothing at all like that.

It only takes a foot of water to float a car.

I learned not to drive into water if you can't see bottom.

That is a scary feeling!