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Is "Pro-life" about saving babies or punishing women? (Original Post) Ping Tung Jul 2025 OP
punishing. definitely. ret5hd Jul 2025 #1
Since once the babies are born there's no inclination on the part of the RW Ocelot II Jul 2025 #2
Punishment, cruelty, control. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #3
"Slut" shaming jmbar2 Jul 2025 #4
punishing. AllaN01Bear Jul 2025 #5
I've always thought it's about keeping people from having sex. Jeebo Jul 2025 #6
Definitely punishing women SheltieLover Jul 2025 #7
Trump said it early on newdeal2 Jul 2025 #9
That from the guy who has had 3 trophy wives and brags about "grabbing" women. Ping Tung Jul 2025 #12
he was an EPSTEIN CLIENT Skittles Jul 2025 #14
I can answer that csusan Jul 2025 #8
The irony of ironies is that the Repugs want women having more babies at the same allegorical oracle Jul 2025 #10
Punishing women and Bettie Jul 2025 #11
"Pro-Life" was NEVER about saving lives, only about controlling women DFW Jul 2025 #13
Punishment and control Hekate Jul 2025 #15
Punishment Solly Mack Jul 2025 #16
Seems like the fight has gone to making sure people aren't prosecuted across state borders. And keeping Plan B legal. RoeVWade Jul 2025 #17
Keep them barefoot and pregnant. BigmanPigman Jul 2025 #18

Ocelot II

(131,216 posts)
2. Since once the babies are born there's no inclination on the part of the RW
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 04:21 PM
Jul 2025

to help them by making sure they have enough food, housing, education, etc., the answer to that question is pretty obvious: Those slutty sex-having women are to be punished for their immoral sluttiness (notwithstanding the obvious involvement of men) by having to give birth to and support their babies with no help from anyone.

Jeebo

(2,560 posts)
6. I've always thought it's about keeping people from having sex.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 04:52 PM
Jul 2025

The only time sex is allowed is within marriage, with the lights off, under the covers, and only ONCE for each child you're going to have, and even then, you're NEVER allowed to enjoy it. That's the puritanical culture I was brought up in. Those were the kinds of attitudes I had growing up, until I started coming to my senses in early adulthood. Inevitably, of course, if they can't keep people from having sex, they want to burden it with all kinds of onerous consequences, and that would be what y'all are calling punishment.

— Ron

csusan

(81 posts)
8. I can answer that
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 05:19 PM
Jul 2025

I escorted at a reproductive health clinic in my town til it closed. Got in a discussion with a forced birther protester. I suggested we discuss together ways to decrease abortion like free birth control. His response was "NO! Then they will have sex whenever they want." I think that answers the question.

allegorical oracle

(6,584 posts)
10. The irony of ironies is that the Repugs want women having more babies at the same
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 05:37 PM
Jul 2025

time they're passing laws that make pregnancy more dangerous than it's been in 60 years. That would suggest that they don't respect women very much.

Bettie

(19,871 posts)
11. Punishing women and
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 06:09 PM
Jul 2025

punishing the children as well, since there will be no Medicaid, no Public Schools, no SNAP....it's their utopia, lots of suffering, while they roll around in piles of cash or count their crypto....however one would do that.

DFW

(60,429 posts)
13. "Pro-Life" was NEVER about saving lives, only about controlling women
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 07:09 PM
Jul 2025

It was not about abolishing the death penalty or vegetarians preventing animals from being raised and slaughtered for human consumption. So, NOT "pro-life." It was only about controlling women and preventing them from having abortions if they wanted (or even needed) them. "Pro-life" extremists have not been reluctant to call for the death penalty for women who have abortions, and they sometimes have not even held back in murdering physicians who perform the procedure. The only ones among them who are credibly "pro-Life" are the ones who are advocates of a certain brand of Quaker Oats cereal.

RoeVWade

(927 posts)
17. Seems like the fight has gone to making sure people aren't prosecuted across state borders. And keeping Plan B legal.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 07:28 PM
Jul 2025

It's definitely proven you can't rest where your rights are concerned.

BigmanPigman

(55,521 posts)
18. Keep them barefoot and pregnant.
Tue Jul 8, 2025, 08:14 PM
Jul 2025

Hasn't this been their agenda for thousands of years? It'll never change.

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