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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKerrville Refused To Take 10 Million From Biden Admin - "You Take This Money, You're Signing A Contract With The Devil"
WATCH: âMore couldâve been done.â
— The Tennessee Holler (@thetnholler.bsky.social) 2025-07-11T21:08:28.281Z
KERR COUNTY folks didnât want to take money from âThe Biden Regimeâ that couldâve been used for a flood warning system ðð½
creon
(1,772 posts)Not a surprise that would happen
Many Texans think that way.
pnwmom
(110,176 posts)they decided to spend it on other things, mostly on a wishlist from the Sheriff's department.
Kerr County did not opt for ARPA to fund flood warning systems despite commissioners discussing such projects nearly two dozen times since 2016. In fact, a survey sent to residents about ARPA spending showed that 42% of the 180 responses wanted to reject the $10 million bonus altogether, largely on political grounds.
SNIP
When it was all said and done, the county approved $7 million in ARPA dollars on a public safety radio communications system for the sheriffs department and county fire services to meet the communitys needs for the next 10 years, although earlier estimates put that contract at $5 million. Another $1 million went to sheriffs employees in the form of stipends and raises, and just over $600,000 went towards additional county positions. A new walking path was also created with the ARPA money.
While much has been made of the ARPA spending, its not clear if residents or the commissioners understood at the time they could have applied the funds to a warning system. Kelly, the Kerr County judge, and Thomas have declined repeated requests for interviews. Moser, who is no longer a commissioner, did not immediately respond to a Texas Tribune interview request.
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/10/texas-kerr-county-commissioners-flooding-warning/
reACTIONary
(6,950 posts)Lovie777
(21,591 posts)he cared about all the states and didn't look at them as red states and blue states, not like the present asshole in the WH.
We truly don't know at present if the millions would have helped Kerrville and the surrounding locations, but my conclusion is a strong yes.
Nevertheless, magas and the present WH, administration and republicans with their fucked up conspiracies still would have blamed President Biden regardless.
SamKnause
(14,659 posts)GiqueCee
(3,319 posts)Upthevibe
(9,999 posts)Yep......
LiberalLovinLug
(14,566 posts)And love the non-Christian criminal rapist serial liar
sop
(17,298 posts)Klondike Kat
(920 posts)although it remains to be seen how much and how effective it would be. Of course, they would decry any help that FEMA might give to anyone else, because those "others" would not be worthy.
This is just another example of FAFO - and they're in the "FO" phase. Those people who refused the moneys from the Biden administration can rot in hell, but I have sympathies for anyone else.
Aristus
(71,562 posts)When they could simply have accepted an ounce of prevention.
benfranklin1776
(6,981 posts)But the logic of that evades their twisted minds. Better to sacrifice their loved ones in their degenerate world view. Exactly the lethal, self loathing calculus of depravity employed by the followers of Jim Jones . 😡
malaise
(292,317 posts)living among us?
benfranklin1776
(6,981 posts)And its not just that they are stupid they are malevolent 😡 Its infuriating to think how much further ahead humankind would be without these malicious Neanderthals assaulting us and compromising our survival. 🤯
malaise
(292,317 posts)Its insane
benfranklin1776
(6,981 posts)Laying waste to the landscape and living things. At least locusts do it to survive. These cretins do it to indulge their evil sadism 😡
Aristus
(71,562 posts)The guy who wants to take a selfie with a bison. The Hey! Watch me drive with my eyes closed guy. The Hey! I bet I could wash my balls in this golf ball washer! guy. Anyone who has ever said Hold my beer and watch this, and meant it.
But modern life has too many safeguards, too many guard rails (including literal ones) to enable stupid people, through their sheer stupidity, to remove themselves from the company of evolved species for good. So they keep living, breeding stupid spawn, and we continue the spiral into Idiocracy.
MayReasonRule
(4,008 posts)

Whiskeytide
(4,625 posts)
at Berkeley in the 70s. He wrote an essay on the Five Universal Laws of Human Stupidity. Its been linked here before (this is where I first saw it years ago), and it explains a lot. Its time to post it again
Its written almost as if it were a lark, but the more I look around, the more convinced I become that he was brilliantly serious.
This is an article about it - but the original essay is linked in it.
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-five-universal-laws-of-human-stupidity?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Worth a read.
Dock_Yard
(245 posts)I am rapidly gaining interest in the subject of human STUPIDITY.
Because US stupidity has been increasingly prevalent every few years as I age (I'm now 70.5).
Whiskeytide
(4,625 posts)Upthevibe
(9,999 posts)I don't know. It's horrifying.....
I read somewhere (it may have even been here on DU) that it's like we're tied up to a chair watching toddlers play with guns and we can't get loose....
mjvpi
(1,840 posts)My bet is they will start complaining about how long it is taking for the government help to start. These people are all about trashing the government until something happens and they are the first to call for a bail out. Maybe, if they are lucky, they can get some paper towels thrown at them.
because its a republican offering help.
the money now for tombstones and plots???
stollen
(1,040 posts)"F" means "federal." "Federal" = "bad."
benfranklin1776
(6,981 posts)Sacrificing their own people, including innocent children for their delusional cult hate 🤬They should be held accountable for their willful indifference to the suffering and harm that was likely to result. 🤬
eppur_se_muova
(40,878 posts)benfranklin1776
(6,981 posts)As its not the voluntary act of a sane mind. 😡
Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)Paladin
(32,222 posts)There's simply no underestimating trump's capacity for filthy behavior. Yesterday's press conference was just further proof of that all-too-obvious fact.
Bengus81
(9,761 posts)It all keeps coming out and adding up.
tanyev
(48,585 posts)I expect there will be many lawsuits in their future, and a lot of regular visitors will find other places to go. They'll be paying for this long after all the debris is cleared and things are rebuilt.
LymphocyteLover
(9,311 posts)benfranklin1776
(6,981 posts)They never miss an opportunity to screw their people to comfort wealthy scumbags 🤬
LymphocyteLover
(9,311 posts)benfranklin1776
(6,981 posts)to that gutter level of governance, i.e. plantation slavery, which is why we cannot let him as the toll of dead and injured will be staggering 🤬😡
PatSeg
(51,976 posts)What did they think? That Biden was sending them his own personal money in exchange for their immortal souls?
I'd say unbelievable, but it IS Texas, so I guess we shouldn't be terribly surprised.
UpInArms
(53,970 posts)missing childs dead body, clean it, call the parents and then
Tell them that they were the ones who spoke up to REFUSE TO PUT IN ALERTS AND SIRENS
And THEY ARE PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY DEATH
benfranklin1776
(6,981 posts)Penance for their sins of callous disregard for their fellow human beings.
marble falls
(70,568 posts)... they also discussed how they could lock that money up to keep it from going to California or New York.
ProfessorGAC
(75,716 posts)Eventually, they have to spend it as intended or return it. But, they sat on it so blue states that "didn't share their values" wouldn't get it.
The antithesis of Christian values.
yardwork
(68,889 posts)It's one of the big problems in deep red areas. The resources are controlled by a few powerful families, who collude to keep it that way. They have a strong influence on how people vote.
lark
(25,863 posts)No feelings of sympathy for them at all, they got what they voted for, rw destruction and major deaths. Stupidity squared!.
mwb970
(12,060 posts)It's just unbelievable. What is wrong with these people??
OldBaldy1701E
(10,021 posts)RW talk radio is a good place to start. But, to be honest, the best place to start is our schools, where the idea of learning has been removed in favor of propaganda and programming.
They don't want to learn. They want to control. Everything they do is about control. Because if they control everything, they don't have to be held accountable for their crimes and evil deeds. Which is the main reason they want to control everything.
Liberal In Texas
(15,946 posts)Texas doesn't have one progressive radio source. It's why I pay a fee to have Sirius/XM. Out in the sticks when you stop for food or gas on the road almost every business has Fox or one of them playing on their TVs. The vitriol they pick up on, say, OAN or Newsmax gets reinforced when their friends and neighbors repeat it over and over. NPR is available, but they generally don't trust this woke network.
Thirty or forty years ago the Democratic Party should have seen this threat coming when right wing interests were buying up radio stations and Rupert was buying major TV stations, NFL broadcast rights and starting his over-the-top alleged news NewsChannel.
It wouldn't have taken buckets of money to buy some AM radio stations that were going for a song back then, to at least make an alternative viewpoint available.
calimary
(88,887 posts)Because of how spot-on it is.
Emile
(40,347 posts)Victims of Fox propaganda? I'll never figure them out.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,903 posts)who just got arrested for destroying weather forecasting equipment. He was convinced the gummint was using the forecasting equipment to actually alter the climate.
malaise
(292,317 posts)These dumbasses are all over our planet.
mwb970
(12,060 posts)The one dumb person in my life (he's in my band) loves trump unconditionally.
trump support works as a surrogate for an actual intelligence test.
Old Crank
(6,611 posts)Freddie
(10,040 posts)malaise
(292,317 posts)dumbass scumbag murderers.
They killed their own people.
BeyondGeography
(40,794 posts)With props to RogerWallaceTN in the comments.
MuseRider
(35,097 posts)liberally.
It is truth and it is important and should not be left to gloss over.
"Letting kids drownto own the libs." Peak Maga
Paladin
(32,222 posts)trump's kind of people. I hope they never ever live this down.
Norrrm
(3,892 posts)But then they felt it was fine to take that free 'socialist/communist' money under false pretenses.
Children died? They'll find a way to blame Biden.
Scalded Nun
(1,591 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(11,781 posts)between us and them. EVER.
kacekwl
(8,851 posts)Mexico, maybe they can do something with it.
oasis
(53,320 posts)RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(1,731 posts)Hating Joe Biden would be like hating Mr. Rogers. Although, I suspect they hated him too!
CaptainTruth
(8,026 posts)Transcript of a meeting of the Kerr County Commissioner's Court:
In their discussion about accepting "Democrat" administration money they call the proposal "Dead in the water"... & they even joke about it.
COMMISSIONER MOSER: If they don't then we just forget the whole project.
JUDGE POLLARD: Just dead in the water.
COMMISSIONER MOSER: Dead in the water, right. It's dead in the water.
COMMISSIONER REEVES: Question --
COMMISSIONER MOSER: Or the pun for the Flood Warning System.
JUDGE POLLARD: Dead in the water.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TexasPolitics/comments/1ltnjf8/comment/n1st2km/?context=3
Kid Berwyn
(22,743 posts)Wit at the cost of the lives of children and other innocent people.
Democrat and Woke people dont joke about life and death; we work to protect lives ALL lives, even corrupt idiots.
iemanja
(57,314 posts)And it was diverted to law enforcement.
GoCubsGo
(34,641 posts)They gave themselves fat pay raises.
erpowers
(9,437 posts)If what you say is true, it is crazy that these people have the nerve to complain about the federal government. Theses Kerr County people may have taken money that was meant to go to a flood program and gave themselves raises.
WOLFMAN87
(53 posts)Truly touched in the head insanity.
JT45242
(3,814 posts)All those speakers should list hones, businesses, etc
If we could charged them with depraved indifference to human life voluntary manslaughter for each death, that would be justice. Served consecutively in alligator Auschwitz.
mcar
(45,600 posts)Alas, we are not in that world anymore.
Torchlight
(6,273 posts)Kerrville chose poorly.
Americanme
(359 posts)these people are STUPID. They've been brainwashed by the right wing media they love. Biden is not the devil, Biden is not a communist. He tried to help them, and they refused to be helped.
chouchou
(2,745 posts)They WILL do just about anything if their leaders spout insane trouble...
Seinan Sensei
(1,330 posts)Why do you accept that guys money? He owns a racetrack. His money is tainted.
Preacher said, the only problem with tainted money is it taint enough.
usaf-vet
(7,743 posts)Stupid, stupid, stupid cultists.
Very sadly, I believe many of the bodies will NEVER be found.
hatrack
(64,189 posts)High school football, arresting brown people, owning libtards and gossiping about who's fucking who among members of the Antioch Hills Baptist Temple.
BigMin28
(1,816 posts)Kerr County took the money, but didn't spend it on flood warning systems. Most went to LE.
chowder66
(11,773 posts)with extremists.
Kill them while they are alive... but do NOT mess with a zygote!!!
appleannie1
(5,405 posts)mn9driver
(4,815 posts)The far right controls the airwaves in the rural US going back 50+ years. Even further if you count Father Coughlin and his ilk. A big part of the right wing media message is that only they can be trusted. All other media sources are secretly out to destroy America.
The people in Kerr County will be uniformly convinced that Biden caused the floods. It will happen automatically, and quickly.
dalton99a
(91,863 posts)mountain grammy
(28,638 posts)"these are human beings who are suffering" I tell myself...
I will not be donating a penny to Texas!
Clouds Passing
(6,857 posts)Takket
(23,438 posts)It is easy to point a lot of fingers at trump, but let's never forget that trump can only destroy our nation because people completely consumed by hate and ignorance have enabled him to do so, like these citizens and local level politicians that murdered the children of Camp Mystic. They killed them. Dead. as surely as if they had pulled a trigger themselves and shot them themselves, because doing something in their own best interest was LESS important to them than "sticking it" to Joe Biden.
In 2021, Biden admin awarded Kerr County TX m in American Rescue Plan Act funds, which could have been used for flood prevention infrastructure. But commissioners, facing political pressure from conservative residents, opted not to pursue warning system. www.texastribune.org/2025/07/10/t...
— Catherine Rampell (@crampell.bsky.social) 2025-07-12T15:02:55.862Z
milestogo
(22,459 posts)Initech
(107,249 posts)You know the solution to that? Stop voting for dangerously unqualified republican lunatics!
MagickMuffin
(18,065 posts)They have to state their name and address, so, they need to be exposed and everyday for the rest of their miserable hateful lives have those dead people pictures.
Perhaps even with a little story:
Hi __________,
My names Casandra and I was 8 years old when I was drown in the Guadalupe River because of your hateful politics.
I would started second grade this year. I miss my family. I miss my life.
Do you have children?
Did they survive the floods?
Are you going to be having a 4th of July celebration?
I suppose all the dead people wont get to celebrate because you helped kill them! Dead in the water! Yep, over 200 people dead in the water. Really such a funny joke, the joke at our expense and very existence.
LOLOLOLOLOL
IM NOT LAUGHING
Are you still laughing about us being Dead in the water?
Hi __________,
Casandra again. I just wanted to tell you all about heaven since youll never ever experience it since you decided to side with the devil that is where youll be spending eternity.
I would have been in 3rd grade this year. I would have tried out for the soccer team. And I also wanted to learn how to play the flute.
Are you still laughing about us? Your hatred of President Biden cost us our lives. All you haters killed us. Because you are willfully ignorant and hateful. Jesus doesnt love you.
republianmushroom
(22,122 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(174,427 posts)
dlilafae
(368 posts)People say those words. It's sad that people are so sorely misinformed.
still-prayin4rain
(522 posts)Mblaze
(918 posts)That he allowed Kerrville to refuse the money in spite of their needs.
Joinfortmill
(19,928 posts)JimmyMidnight
(1 post)B.See
(7,645 posts)btw, welcome to DU.
marble falls
(70,568 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(174,427 posts)pnwmom
(110,176 posts)decided to keep it. Unfortunately, they decided to use it on other things instead of a flood warning system -- mostly things for the Sheriff's department.
Kerr County did not opt for ARPA to fund flood warning systems despite commissioners discussing such projects nearly two dozen times since 2016. In fact, a survey sent to residents about ARPA spending showed that 42% of the 180 responses wanted to reject the $10 million bonus altogether, largely on political grounds.
SNIP
When it was all said and done, the county approved $7 million in ARPA dollars on a public safety radio communications system for the sheriffs department and county fire services to meet the communitys needs for the next 10 years, although earlier estimates put that contract at $5 million. Another $1 million went to sheriffs employees in the form of stipends and raises, and just over $600,000 went towards additional county positions. A new walking path was also created with the ARPA money.
While much has been made of the ARPA spending, its not clear if residents or the commissioners understood at the time they could have applied the funds to a warning system. Kelly, the Kerr County judge, and Thomas have declined repeated requests for interviews. Moser, who is no longer a commissioner, did not immediately respond to a Texas Tribune interview request.
dlk
(13,097 posts)Apparently, their paranoia sustains them. So many innocent lives needlessly lost all because of their ignorant foolishness.
Even now, I doubt a single one of them regrets refusing federal money. The fictitious conditions for accepting federal funds are all in their minds. Unless, of course, receipt of the funds was predicated on actually using the funds for the intended purpose, like warning sirens, instead of going into individuals pockets.
pnwmom
(110,176 posts)Unfortunately, they decided to spend them on other things.
dlk
(13,097 posts)It would be interesting to learn how the funds were actually spent. There is no shortage of graft and corruption in Texas. The attorney general had felony indictments from a grand jury, but charges were never brought.
pnwmom
(110,176 posts)"When it was all said and done, the county approved $7 million in ARPA dollars on a public safety radio communications system for the sheriffs department and county fire services to meet the communitys needs for the next 10 years, although earlier estimates put that contract at $5 million. Another $1 million went to sheriffs employees in the form of stipends and raises, and just over $600,000 went towards additional county positions. A new walking path was also created with the ARPA money."
https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/10/texas-kerr-county-commissioners-flooding-warning/
dlk
(13,097 posts)I wonder how much an early warning siren system would have cost?
pnwmom
(110,176 posts)and they'd tried to get it from the state, but the state would only pay 5%.
Then when ten times that sum suddenly became available, they decided it wasn't important after all.
Idiots.
Beartracks
(14,321 posts)pnwmom
(110,176 posts)They just didn't think flood control was a priority. I hope they're all kicked off the board.
Irish_Dem
(79,449 posts)Great parents these people.
Mysterian
(6,149 posts)I suppose they are like this until the last day of their miserable lives.
BidenRocks
(2,700 posts)and I'm here to help.
Reagan shares in the deaths.
Jack Valentino
(4,265 posts)(combining 2 different right-wing perspectives on this issue)
misanthrope
(9,349 posts)Way to go Kerr County.
librechik
(30,955 posts)That's the correct phrasing. And Democrats are not Satan, They are your neighbors and friends.
Nice job, Atwater and Gingrich. You made the country HATE again.
EnergizedLib
(2,917 posts)President Biden governed like he cared about all Americans, whether they voted for him or not.