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drray23

(8,821 posts)
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:06 AM Jul 2025

Why are MAGATS upset that the Epstein files are not being released?

I am perplexed. Is there a conspiracy theory I am not aware of (besides the new one Trump is trying to start saying Obama and Clinton made it up)?

What were the MAGATS expecting to see? Is not it obvious that Trump was a friend of Epstein and likely involved with abusing underage women?

If so, why would the MAGATS want to have that released? What were they told ? That it was all democrats that were implied (a la pizzagate?) and not Trump ?


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Why are MAGATS upset that the Epstein files are not being released? (Original Post) drray23 Jul 2025 OP
I would think they would applaud him for his pedo SheltieLover Jul 2025 #1
Yes, gab13by13 Jul 2025 #2
Here: emulatorloo Jul 2025 #3
They've been told for years thr Clintons Johonny Jul 2025 #4
They've been told it's all Democrats on the list... Wounded Bear Jul 2025 #5
RW toxic punditry underpants Jul 2025 #13
Good hair metal band name... Wounded Bear Jul 2025 #18
Because they now know they were lied to malaise Jul 2025 #6
"Tucker Carlson suggests Jeffrey Epstein was working for Mossad" BeyondGeography Jul 2025 #7
Yep that's the other part. underpants Jul 2025 #14
Next thing you know EYESORE 9001 Jul 2025 #21
MAGA influencers raged and made this a priority Raven123 Jul 2025 #8
And there was the binder stunt back in February underpants Jul 2025 #16
They are pervs and want to see photos. Seriously, I can't figure it out either but glad it's happening. Silent Type Jul 2025 #9
Conspiracy involving globalists, jews, deep state, Israel, new world order JI7 Jul 2025 #10
although the MAGAt lives in an information silo, he experiences intermittent spasms of independent rage stupdity cadoman Jul 2025 #11
They're willing to sacrifice a few conservatives because they think they'll catch a lot of liberals. Ping Tung Jul 2025 #12
Because going from have them, don't exist, to written by haters, in short order was that long wanted bridge too far? Brainfodder Jul 2025 #15
They don't wanna ruin their carefully worked out conspiracy theories with actual facts Walleye Jul 2025 #17
check out my post on just this... Javaman Jul 2025 #19
The First Thing to Know About the maga Pubs JustAnotherGen Jul 2025 #20
Q - The conspiracy theory mercuryblues Jul 2025 #22
Second WoundedBear and others: "They've been told it's all Democrats on the list..." usonian Jul 2025 #23
They'll be told what their new opinions are by mid-week. Torchlight Jul 2025 #24

gab13by13

(32,752 posts)
2. Yes,
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:12 AM
Jul 2025

this is similar to Pizza Gate.

They were told that Democrats were behind Epstein's sex trafficking, and although Krasnov was one of the top Epstein visitors they believe it was Bubba.

emulatorloo

(46,155 posts)
3. Here:
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:13 AM
Jul 2025
MAGA continues to reel from Trump's Epstein betrayal
A movement founded on conspiracy theories wonders if the president is leading one of his own
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1016408854

Johonny

(26,585 posts)
4. They've been told for years thr Clintons
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:14 AM
Jul 2025

And the Democrats in general are part of a huge under ground pedo ring.

The fact Taco is all over Epstein simply doesn't register with them because they're wedded to this pizza gate scandal that doesn't fucking exist.

Wounded Bear

(64,622 posts)
5. They've been told it's all Democrats on the list...
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:15 AM
Jul 2025

that all liberals are perverts and child molesters. Trouble is, that is a huge load of projection by top Repubs and RW toxic punditry. Probablly most of any "list" or files include all of the RW heroes who are now in serious CYA mode.

malaise

(297,900 posts)
6. Because they now know they were lied to
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:17 AM
Jul 2025

and their RW vipers’ nests of lies is stinging big time😀

BeyondGeography

(41,198 posts)
7. "Tucker Carlson suggests Jeffrey Epstein was working for Mossad"
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:21 AM
Jul 2025
https://www.timesofisrael.com/tucker-carlson-suggests-jeffrey-epstein-was-working-for-israels-mossad-spy-agency/

The article picks up a speech Tucker gave to rapt wingnuts at Turning Point USA on Friday.

Anyway, Carlson has also pointed to the Saudis as a potential Epstein sponsor. So they’re swimming in Deep State land now.

underpants

(197,160 posts)
14. Yep that's the other part.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:48 AM
Jul 2025

Look they have to one up each other. Every RW toxic pundit has to add something to the story or they lose relevance (which they have for no reason).

EYESORE 9001

(29,880 posts)
21. Next thing you know
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 11:17 AM
Jul 2025

RumpCo will cite ‘national security’ or some such facade of inscrutability. Spies run pedo rings for rich fucks. Who knew?

Raven123

(7,894 posts)
8. MAGA influencers raged and made this a priority
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:25 AM
Jul 2025

They continued to promise they would release the files once ensconced in power. Unmask the deep state. Bondi claimed the list was on her desk. MAGA salivated. Basically dangled the prize in front of their faces and now pulled it away. Of course they are going to be angry.

underpants

(197,160 posts)
16. And there was the binder stunt back in February
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:54 AM
Jul 2025

https://abcnews.go.com/US/doj-pushes-fbi-review-release-epstein-files-amid/story?id=119982513

The quote from Kash is priceless


https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-pamela-bondi-releases-first-phase-declassified-epstein-files

“The FBI is entering a new era—one that will be defined by integrity, accountability, and the unwavering pursuit of justice,” said FBI Director Kash Patel. “There will be no cover-ups, no missing documents, and no stone left unturned — and anyone from the prior or current Bureau who undermines this will be swiftly pursued. If there are gaps, we will find them. If records have been hidden, we will uncover them. And we will bring everything we find to the DOJ to be fully assessed and transparently disseminated to the American people as it should be. The oath we take is to the Constitution, and under my leadership, that promise will be upheld without compromise.”
 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
9. They are pervs and want to see photos. Seriously, I can't figure it out either but glad it's happening.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:26 AM
Jul 2025

JI7

(93,892 posts)
10. Conspiracy involving globalists, jews, deep state, Israel, new world order
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:27 AM
Jul 2025

And the usual stuff.

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
11. although the MAGAt lives in an information silo, he experiences intermittent spasms of independent rage stupdity
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:31 AM
Jul 2025

That are for whatever reason completely in conflict with Krasnov's directives.

Think of it as a programming error. Krasnov thought he could project Epstein onto his opponents, but somehow the program was misconfigured and the weapon backfired, Loony Tunes style.

This also occurred with the COVID 19 vaccines. His inebriated base had become so amenable to anti-science rhetoric that they couldn't even be convinced to take the miracle vaccines, resulting in millions of MAGAt deaths. Krasnov tried to save them but a big reason he lost was simply that he had killed so many of his voters with dangerous horse medications.

This presents us another opportunity and I think we see many of our smartest politicians already positioning to capitalize on the fallout.

Ping Tung

(4,370 posts)
12. They're willing to sacrifice a few conservatives because they think they'll catch a lot of liberals.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:34 AM
Jul 2025

It's a win/win in their minds. The idea being that most REAL repubs are God Fearing patriots who never do anything naughty. They also believe that liberals are all sex crazed commie perverts. So they get rid of the few bad apple conservatives and destroy a whole slough of liberals.

Brainfodder

(7,781 posts)
15. Because going from have them, don't exist, to written by haters, in short order was that long wanted bridge too far?
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:54 AM
Jul 2025

Cooked
Once you labeled PEDO and don't flat out deny it directly always, but instead whine about the evidence, you done son!

Convincing the stupid to be for you is all the Republicans appear to do well?

PEDO to jail in some countries, murdered there shortly after arrival, common AF, OH SORRY, SUICIDE IN CELL. *cough*

This guy acting GUILTY AF!!!!!!! You done monster cry baby beeyotch, you can end yours and our suffering ON THIS easily!

Anyone broke in NJ? There might be a cache at a golf course to maybe look into!?!

Republicans unite for impeachment/convict or just STFU and take a big bite since you made such an effort for this shit burger!
"Be Embarrassed Again Republicans" is the purple hat logo you need right now!
We collectively fucking told you so a trillion times since 2015?






Walleye

(45,400 posts)
17. They don't wanna ruin their carefully worked out conspiracy theories with actual facts
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 10:57 AM
Jul 2025

They are so obsessed with pedophiles. Honestly, I don’t think there are that many adult humans who really are turned on by children. I don’t know what is wrong with these idiots think there are. Also, I don’t think boys are going to transition into girls just to participate in sports. I wish people would just use the instincts they were born with to know when people are lying and making stuff up.

JustAnotherGen

(38,109 posts)
20. The First Thing to Know About the maga Pubs
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 11:10 AM
Jul 2025

Is that there is no understanding of maga Pubs by Patriotic Americans.

'they not like us'

mercuryblues

(16,515 posts)
22. Q - The conspiracy theory
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 11:50 AM
Jul 2025

They have been told for at least a decade that trump would expose all those dems that were molesting kids and eating their dead bodies.

He has the Epstein files to prove it, and now trump won't go after them. Even they can't rationalize this. There is a crack in their foundation, and it is about to get flooded.

usonian

(26,580 posts)
23. Second WoundedBear and others: "They've been told it's all Democrats on the list..."
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 12:19 PM
Jul 2025

He's hiding the dirt on Dems, Soros (of course) and other enemies.

There's no GOP incriminating evidence in it, so nothing to hide!

Happens when you believe your own lies.

You can only pile so much shit into the crapper,



before it reaches critical mass.



Torchlight

(7,037 posts)
24. They'll be told what their new opinions are by mid-week.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 12:21 PM
Jul 2025

Until then, their confusion remains a closed-loop system by design.

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