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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEpstein had legitimate business dealings with people like Bill Gates
He was a financier who put together deals.
The difference between Bill Gates and even Clinton is whether they repeatedly frequented his pedo palaces.
Show me the number of trips made by Trump vs. others…the number of calls. We need more than names we need context.
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CentralMass
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live love laugh
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Irish_Dem
(82,267 posts)This is why his wife divorced his ass.
He humiliated her once too often.
The Epstein horror show was the final straw.
live love laugh
(16,473 posts)
fujiyamasan
(2,015 posts)Which sounds like it understandably disgusted Melinda.
Do you have a link to the part about prostitutes?
Irish_Dem
(82,267 posts)1. https://nypost.com/2021/05/10/bill-gates-womanizer-held-nude-pool-parties-biographer/
"Gates would visit one of Seattle’s all-nude nightclubs and hire dancers to come to his home
and swim naked with his friends in his indoor pool,"
2.https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/equality/553918-bill-gatess-reputation-reeling-from-affairs-uncomfortable/
Bill having affairs in the workplace and being accused of sexual harassment. Had to pay off employees.
"The Journal also reported that the breaking point to their marriage started when Melinda was upset at Bill for wanting to arrange a meeting with Epstein in 2011, which marks three years after Epstein pleaded guilty to soliciting a minor for prostitution.
3. Interesting as I was researching this topic, Google refused to show more articles stating my search was a violation
of Bill Gate's privacy. But at the time of the Gates' divorce there were quite a few stories about how Bill was a constant
in the Seattle nightclub scene, complete with hookers and party girls. I guess when you are rich you can get all those stories
erased from the internet and then have AI give you a stupid lecture.
Bill Gates didn't give a damn about the privacy of the young girls he was raping at Epstein parties.
fujiyamasan
(2,015 posts)Crazy stuff. What is it about all that money making them such ass holes to their spouses? Similar with Bezos.
Their exes seem a lot more sane.
uponit7771
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DET
(2,599 posts)I always thought that Bill Gates was one of the few faithful men of the billionaire class. Such a disappointment to find out that he’s just as bad as the rest. 
Irish_Dem
(82,267 posts)But he wanted street and party hookers.
And raping children.
Irish_Dem
(82,267 posts)I am getting a stern AI lecture that we should respect people's privacy.
Not denying the stories of course.
But yes at the time of the divorce there were many stories about Bill Gates and his visits to nightclubs
with strippers and hookers.
TommyT139
(2,431 posts)...anyone can request that a Google search result about them can be removed. There are reasons why they might not, and we don't have "the right to be forgotten" that other countries do, but it is an option.
(I'll dig up a link to be sure it's still a possibility.) (Update: yep, and improved it.)
https://www.pcmag.com/how-to/yes-you-can-remove-your-personal-info-from-google-search-heres-how
https://www.tomsguide.com/computing/online-security/google-just-made-it-easier-to-remove-your-personal-info-from-search-results-heres-how-to-do-it
https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/9673730?hl=en
I suspect this is one of those internet features that are implemented to stave off actual regulations and laws to protect privacy, but hey, we won't be getting those ever.
WarGamer
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Celerity
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he had shit taste in footwear
WarGamer
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MorbidButterflyTat
(4,731 posts)Epstein had to do legit business in public, he was also a philanthropist.
Maybe there are people who want to accuse Stephen Hawking of being a pedophile.
Ferryboat
(1,268 posts)Gathering of intellectuals or like minded such as writers for 'stimulating conversation'.
More common in the past.
yardwork
(69,612 posts)I have never seen any indication of that.
A lot of "philanthropists" give money in return for good publicity and attention. Their gifts also open doors for them.
There have been a number of scandals involving big name donors. Giving away money doesn't prove you're a good person.
TommyT139
(2,431 posts)...can be a form of money laundering, exchanging it for social credit, influence, tax deductions, etc. Epstein donated a lot to Harvard, I think...which gave him privileges he wouldn't have had otherwise, as a non-alumnus.
I'm not saying that's what he did -- I suspect a lot will come out with any investigation into the $1.5 billion.
TnDem
(1,390 posts)Using Bill Gates as a messenger of light and having "legitimate" business deals with Epstein is obfuscating at best.
Gates is a philandering, controlling, gently smiling authoritarian piece of shit.
Don't elevate him at all when discussing Epstein.
live love laugh
(16,473 posts)TommyT139
(2,431 posts)...regardless of motivations.
Bill Gates to give most of his $200bn fortune to Africa
2 June 2025
The Gates Foundation said it had three priorities: ending preventable deaths of mothers and babies, ensuring the next generation grows up without having to suffer from deadly infectious diseases, and lifting millions of people out of poverty.
Source:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn4qg5gzgzxo
Xoan
(25,570 posts)TommyT139
(2,431 posts)Gates, per NYT, met Epstein in 2011. He and Melinda were active in public health in Africa for a decade or more by then.
I'm not saying he isn't smarmy. But anyone who wants to see him as entirely evil has to reckon with the millions of lives he's helped save through maternal health programs, HIV prevention, anti-malaria efforts, nutritious rice distribution, and lots else.
Black and white thinking isn't reality-based this time - as valid as it may be as a personal preference.
fujiyamasan
(2,015 posts)To keep anything about Epstein hidden.
The only time the government is so paranoid about keeping things this secret is when it claims it’s about “national security” and usually of course it’s a bullshit excuse. That’s why we it has taken decades even for the Kennedy assassination stuff to come out.
I’m convinced it’s to avoid embarrassing a certain country in the Middle East, who I believe cultivated ties with Maxwell or her father.
Faux pas
(16,523 posts)The so called "business deals" were cover for his child trafficking business. 
flying_wahini
(8,281 posts)He was on the manifest for the flight. I doubt he would stick around for the pervs after the Monica scandal.
Just my opinion.
live love laugh
(16,473 posts)LymphocyteLover
(10,132 posts)There's no way Trump isn't neck deep in Epstein's perversions and we know of the Katie Johnson allegations.
live love laugh
(16,473 posts)indusurb
(343 posts)Many times sharing a flight with Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker.
https://archive.org/details/epstein-flight-logs-unredacted_202304
karynnj
(61,087 posts)that it benefits him to have a (legitimate) connection with Clinton. I think he also gave money to prestigious universities. He also contributed to political campaigns, probably because big donations do give access. Though I think all of us would wish to get money out of politics, it is a legitimate way to get access. He likely needed a cloak of respectability to draw in many of the powerful who had dark urges he satisfied and then presumably blackmailed.
I think the money trail that Senator Wyden and staff are following may prove far more than the files. Knowing who sent money would be very interesting as it might be very hard to define a reason for doing so.
angrychair
(12,496 posts)Anyone that had any dealing with that guy should be considered a criminal until proven otherwise.
Yes, I mean anyone.