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say the felon craps out before '28. what's a vance presidency look like (Original Post) KG Jul 2025 OP
I think he's a lightweight, surrounded by featherweights bucolic_frolic Jul 2025 #1
Peter Thiel would call the shots. JD says whatever helps or doesn't hurt himself underpants Jul 2025 #3
Yes.. and those Tech Bros along with the Project 2025 cretins would be calling the shots... hlthe2b Jul 2025 #8
Pence 2.0. A houseplant that echoes whatever Dear Leader says underpants Jul 2025 #10
I would see no change in course. WarGamer Jul 2025 #2
Policies will be 99% the same Justice Brandeis Jul 2025 #4
VD Jance won't be able to keep the Trump scam going. Dulcinea Jul 2025 #21
Same shit different asshole IA8IT Jul 2025 #5
I think worse... TommyT139 Jul 2025 #6
I agree. Miller will still be orchestrating. underpants Jul 2025 #11
This is 3 years in the future. Things change so rapidly one can't see 3 hours ahead. Things have changed since the Srkdqltr Jul 2025 #7
I sincerely doubt that. TSF is on a downward trajectory healthwise--especially mental capacity hlthe2b Jul 2025 #9
He'll dig in on the dictatorship takeover. GoodRaisin Jul 2025 #12
No-Personality Vance won't be able to hold maga together lame54 Jul 2025 #13
Probably not Jilly_in_VA Jul 2025 #14
It'll be a mess. Iggo Jul 2025 #15
I think it might happen sooner than that. chowder66 Jul 2025 #16
one difference imo proud patriot Jul 2025 #17
JD's your basic political meatloaf. He's about as pertinent as Dan Quail was. nt allegorical oracle Jul 2025 #18
Peter Thiel (another billionaire South African) is his puppeteer and sponsor. What do you think? Hekate Jul 2025 #19
Your eggs would then be valued in satoshis (fractions of Bitcoin) nt EarthFirst Jul 2025 #20
There would be less danger of starting a nuclear war by 'Truth Social' post... Jack Valentino Jul 2025 #22

bucolic_frolic

(55,840 posts)
1. I think he's a lightweight, surrounded by featherweights
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:50 PM
Jul 2025

mental policy collapse should be expected.

underpants

(197,189 posts)
3. Peter Thiel would call the shots. JD says whatever helps or doesn't hurt himself
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:51 PM
Jul 2025

Mayor Pete said he knew lots of people like that at Harvard (Ivy League).

hlthe2b

(114,692 posts)
8. Yes.. and those Tech Bros along with the Project 2025 cretins would be calling the shots...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:47 PM
Jul 2025

JD Vance may not be inherently stupid, but he remains insecure from his early years of dorkiness & bullying-- and is thus readily manipulated.

 

Justice Brandeis

(405 posts)
4. Policies will be 99% the same
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:11 PM
Jul 2025

On the one hand, Vance is more disciplined than Trump (that's not saying much), but has at least an average knowledge of public policy that Trump very much lacks.

Trump has tremendous charisma AMONG HIS OWN SUPPORTERS. Vance has nowhere near that same level of magnetism.

Dulcinea

(10,313 posts)
21. VD Jance won't be able to keep the Trump scam going.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:56 PM
Jul 2025

He lacks the Fascist Felon's salesmanship and ability to sway a crowd. Plus, no one likes him. He'll never be able to win an election on his own.

TommyT139

(2,431 posts)
6. I think worse...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:17 PM
Jul 2025

Mostly because Vance won't make some of the stupid errors that Trump does. He has more self-control, which will help his image. His corruption prior to being VP has only barely come to light, and attention faded quickly. Of course, he had less baggage than Trump, because of his age, and the fact of Peter Thiel sponsoring him.

Finally, he is younger, healthier, with at least two terms legally possible...and all the illegal tactics already in his tool box.

underpants

(197,189 posts)
11. I agree. Miller will still be orchestrating.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:06 PM
Jul 2025

Vance would bring no full Bro rhetoric too.

JD isn’t anywhere near as flippant, erratic, and flat out stupid as Trump.

Srkdqltr

(9,943 posts)
7. This is 3 years in the future. Things change so rapidly one can't see 3 hours ahead. Things have changed since the
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:20 PM
Jul 2025

Question was asked.

hlthe2b

(114,692 posts)
9. I sincerely doubt that. TSF is on a downward trajectory healthwise--especially mental capacity
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:50 PM
Jul 2025

Jilly_in_VA

(14,624 posts)
14. Probably not
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:07 PM
Jul 2025

But will he have the cojones to get rid of Miller et al? That's the real question. I don't think he has a mind of his own.

Iggo

(50,059 posts)
15. It'll be a mess.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:12 PM
Jul 2025

A spineless guy totally run by others.

Think Dubya, but dumber and less in charge.

chowder66

(12,514 posts)
16. I think it might happen sooner than that.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:30 PM
Jul 2025

As for what happens next, I shudder to think.

proud patriot

(102,568 posts)
17. one difference imo
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:34 PM
Jul 2025

would be that no one really likes vance .

Vance has no cult do to his lack of charisma.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
19. Peter Thiel (another billionaire South African) is his puppeteer and sponsor. What do you think?
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:57 PM
Jul 2025

Jack Valentino

(5,252 posts)
22. There would be less danger of starting a nuclear war by 'Truth Social' post...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:44 PM
Jul 2025

if Vance were president rather than Trump. That's the best thing I can say about him.


Also, I think he'd be much more rational than Trump on tariff policies---
and quite possibly understand that a tariff is a tax on the American people,
which Trump continues to deny...

As for most everything else, he's your standard right-wing nightmare.

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