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snot

(11,802 posts)
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:57 PM Jul 2025

One more point re- the Epstein case:

Most informed observers believe that Epstein's operation was tolerated for as long as it was because he was amassing info that could be used to blackmail important people into doing or going along with things that they wouldn't otherwise have done or gone along with – potentially treasonously.

If that's true, and there's plenty of reason to be concerned about the possibility, we need not only to prosecute the abusers but also to re-examine which decisions they may have been blackmailed into – and perhaps most importantly, we need to know whether Epstein was the sole blackmailer or whether others were involved, and if so, prosecute all the blackmailers – whether affiliated with our own intel agencies or anyone else.



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One more point re- the Epstein case: (Original Post) snot Jul 2025 OP
This assumes that no prosecutors, judges, law enforcement were involved in the crimes. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #1
Alex Acosta for one. sop Jul 2025 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author snot Jul 2025 #5
Acosta should be brought to Congress to testify under oath... AntiFascist Jul 2025 #7
So much the more reason snot Jul 2025 #6
Yes but this case keeps getting buried over and over again. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #10
I hope we have that problem. /nt bucolic_frolic Jul 2025 #2
That would've been a logical form of insurance for him Uncle Joe Jul 2025 #3
Moreover, if info incriminating powerful figures remains secret and in the hands of any blackmailers, snot Jul 2025 #8
As an aside, could it be possible that TSF is desperate, not so much to avoid no_hypocrisy Jul 2025 #9
his fbi raided the island when jeffy was arrested. mopinko Jul 2025 #11
Exactly. snot Jul 2025 #18
The big mystery about Epstein has always been how big the blackmail operation might be, paulkienitz Jul 2025 #12
Pull every thread. Kid Berwyn Jul 2025 #13
This allegedly went on for many years with many young girls Jarqui Jul 2025 #14
Several have been bought off with secret settlements in lawsuits, snot Jul 2025 #19
Around 150 women were paid around a million each womanofthehills Jul 2025 #15
Find out who ordered the ' hit ' on Epstein and you'll have all the pieces to the puzzle. Bread and Circuses Jul 2025 #16
Chris Hedges interviews Nick Bryant Be Leave On Jul 2025 #17
Hedges is brilliant; one of several of our best journalists/commentators snot Jul 2025 #20

Irish_Dem

(81,211 posts)
1. This assumes that no prosecutors, judges, law enforcement were involved in the crimes.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:00 PM
Jul 2025

Who have a vested interest in keeping it all buried.

Response to sop (Reply #4)

AntiFascist

(13,751 posts)
7. Acosta should be brought to Congress to testify under oath...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:25 PM
Jul 2025

about whether someone actually told him that Epstein was "intelligence" and "above his paygrade" and who it was that told him that.

Irish_Dem

(81,211 posts)
10. Yes but this case keeps getting buried over and over again.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:35 PM
Jul 2025

When Epstein was killed, it was over.

snot

(11,802 posts)
8. Moreover, if info incriminating powerful figures remains secret and in the hands of any blackmailers,
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:32 PM
Jul 2025

it will probably continue to be used for corrupt purposes.

We cannot afford not to aggressively cut this cancer out.

no_hypocrisy

(54,893 posts)
9. As an aside, could it be possible that TSF is desperate, not so much to avoid
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:34 PM
Jul 2025

accountability with Epstein, but rather to procure that Epstein client list for his own purposes of blackmail? Roy Cohn taught him the benefits of leverage when you have solid evidence for the purposes of manipulation of others via blackmail.

mopinko

(73,722 posts)
11. his fbi raided the island when jeffy was arrested.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:48 PM
Jul 2025

and afaik, no 1 has ever seen any of that evidence.

snot

(11,802 posts)
18. Exactly.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 03:23 PM
Jul 2025

Allowing the dirt to remain secret (if it exists, and the way the evidence has been handled suggests it does) in ANYONE's hands means that we're trusting that person or entity not to use it ––– I hope we're not that naive.

paulkienitz

(1,507 posts)
12. The big mystery about Epstein has always been how big the blackmail operation might be,
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:47 PM
Jul 2025

and whether he was a lone gunman or working on behalf of some agency or agencies.

Jarqui

(10,906 posts)
14. This allegedly went on for many years with many young girls
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:57 PM
Jul 2025

Beyond Epstein - MeidasTouch uncovered more from 1991 beauty pageants, etc



Ghislaine Maxwell was convicted of constantly recruiting girls for years.

With so many young girls assaulted/abused, how are they keeping this so quiet. A few have spoken up but with that many, you'd think more would come forward over time.

Law enforcement must know so much more.

The corruption must run very wide and deep.

snot

(11,802 posts)
19. Several have been bought off with secret settlements in lawsuits,
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 03:25 PM
Jul 2025

while the most assertive of them, Virginia Giuffre, "suicided" at age 41.

One might assume that others were bought off without having gotten to the point of filing suit.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
15. Around 150 women were paid around a million each
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:11 PM
Jul 2025

Out of Jeffrey’s compensation fund estate. Around another 100 didn’t qualify for compensation.

I bet a keep quiet clause was in there.

Be Leave On

(430 posts)
17. Chris Hedges interviews Nick Bryant
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:45 PM
Jul 2025

In this hour-long video, Chris Hedges interviews Nick Bryant, who is the journalist and author who first published Jeffrey Epstein’s infamous “black book” in 2015 as well as Epstein’s flight logs.

https://popularresistance.org/chris-hedges-report-jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump-and-sexual-blackmail-networks/

snot

(11,802 posts)
20. Hedges is brilliant; one of several of our best journalists/commentators
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 03:29 PM
Jul 2025

who have been pushed out of the MSM (e.g., Seymour Hersch, John Pilger, Aaron Mate...).

Hedges was the NYT's Middle East Bureau chief, among his many other accomplishments, but was pushed out after he criticized the 2003 invasion of Iraq in a college commencement speech.

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