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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSimple Question: Is Donald Trump the biggest criminal in American History?
I would say yes. How many underage girls did he rape? How many deaths is he responsible for?
How many lives did he ruin? And so many more crimes such as stolen elections, treason, theft, and
turning our nations top secrets over to our enemies such as Putin, and where has our Liberal Media been because so many of his crimes are a matter of public record?
Trumps, Where is my Roy Cohn? Should have ended his career then and there and he should be sitting in the U.S. Supermax Federal Prison in Florence, CO right now not the White House and burning America
to the ground for his boss Vlad Putin.
bucolic_frolic
(55,840 posts)lastlib
(28,620 posts)I haven't called him "President" in this term, because as a convicted felon, he's not legitimate.
B.See
(8,867 posts)of 1.what you said, 2. he lost the popular vote the first time, and 3. has never been worthy of the title regardless (imo).
Mr.Bee
(1,920 posts)Especially American values. Completely, totally insane, and driving the rest of the country insane too,
Drunk with power, is the phrase that comes to mind.
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kentuck
(115,635 posts)...if he was behind bars. He encourages lawlessness.
Botany
(77,863 posts)
. in N.E. Scotland and buy jet fuel from him. God only knows how much he has grifted from
the American people.
tavernier
(14,510 posts)Were it not for his lifetime desire to ruin America through the manipulation of Americans with well planned lies and fake news, Trump would never be anywhere close to the White House.
Walleye
(45,479 posts)Im certain he thinks its all his money just like all the campaign contributions are all his money.
WmChris
(785 posts)His congressional conspirators, and finacial supporters should all go down with him.
allegorical oracle
(6,592 posts)the most hideous human beings I've known -- or heard of --- in my lifetime.
Botany
(77,863 posts)These are Hitler or Stalin or Pol Pot type of #s. But hey to Trump and Musk they are just n*****s.
And this story is getting almost zero coverage too.
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Elon Musks tenure running Trumps Department of Government Efficiency has, according to the academic Brooke Nichols, caused thousands of preventable deaths
The mathematician and professor of infectious diseases at Boston University had created a model to predict the human cost of the Department of Government Efficiencys (Doge) USAid funding cuts.
What Nichols had not appreciated was what was killing people, and just how quickly it appeared to be killing them. A death was estimated to be happening somewhere in the world every three minutes. It was just shocking, she said.
As Elon Musk, the head of Doge, arrived at the White House on Friday afternoon to be congratulated by President Trump for his work slashing the federal budget, the number of deaths on Nicholss tracker hit 300,000, more than 200,000 of them children
https://www.thetimes.com/us/american-politics/article/usaid-doge-deaths-children-cuts-7nb83dfkp
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Trump had the food which was already paid for burned rather than ship it to Africa and they refused
to send anti diarrhea kits too. Diarrhea is big killers of starving people.
yardwork
(69,647 posts)He's taking bribes to release other countries from tariffs.
Trump is a global crime spree.
doc03
(39,184 posts)entertainment. Trump is just pure evil.
allegorical oracle
(6,592 posts)they don't deserve it. He's a maniac.
Blue Full Moon
(3,651 posts)TheRickles
(3,533 posts)Seinan Sensei
(1,644 posts)Look like they could be brothers
WiVoter
(1,687 posts)I've watched it more than once. I'm anew I'll watch it again.
JustAnotherGen
(38,109 posts)That was one ugly evil looking cuss.
lark
(26,115 posts)He's the nazis and confederates wet dream.
et tu
(2,387 posts)AverageOldGuy
(4,172 posts). . . after he wastes $2 billion on restoring Alcatraz, he can be the first and only guest?
I can dream, cant I?
GoCubsGo
(35,000 posts)Whether directly, or those who willingly covered up for him over his lifetime. Looking at you John Roberts and fellow Supreme Court boot-lickers, Rupert Murdoch, Mitch McConnell, God Warrior Mike Johnson, Bill Barr....
Botany
(77,863 posts)Last edited Mon Jul 21, 2025, 12:14 PM - Edit history (3)
Fascists Racist Mouth Breathers Zuckerberg, Ginni Thomas and her gang, the Mercers, Vlad
Putin, Proud Boys, Roger Stone, True the Vote shits, phony electoral delegates, and J-6thers types.
* https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-they-didnt-just-change-the
nowforever
(586 posts)If they have red colored straight jackets...be great pic
JT45242
(4,133 posts)Putin has stolen hundreds of billions over the years. He has called the criminal shots that got mango Mussolini into power.
So, I generally hold the head of the criminal organization above any of the underlings.
Putin overseeing war crimes daily. His troops have raped more girls under his orders than tiny mushroom pecker could have as an individual.
Martin68
(28,072 posts)JT45242
(4,133 posts)paleotn
(22,742 posts)speak easy
(12,598 posts)Aristus
(72,525 posts)Davis' armed insurrection cost the country a lot more than six lives.
Botany
(77,863 posts)The total number of deaths in the American Civil War is estimated to be around 620,000 to 750,000. Some historians argue for a higher number, closer to 850,000,
Although America is still suffering from
slavery because of things like the electoral college and racism.
1 million Americans died from COVID and an estimated 14 million died from it worldwide.
8 million diagnosed, 4 to 5 million undiagnosed, and @ least 1 million died because they
couldnt get medical care because all the medical professionals and facilities were over-
whelmed by COVID cases.
mahina
(20,724 posts)soon
Cheezoholic
(3,917 posts)bluestarone
(22,466 posts)He is definitely the reason that so many cultist drew to him like a MAGNET!! Never thought so many Americans, (RELIGIOUS people as well) were willing to thro our country and constitution in the garbage.
displacedvermoter
(5,001 posts)were both syphilitic, just like Trump is, so Trump is certainly one of the most syphilis infected criminals, for sure.
LilElf70
(1,642 posts)Yes, Yes, and Yes..... 1000 times.
One would think that being convicted felon would do the trick.
Please feel free to add more yes'.
MiHale
(13,175 posts)When they release the movie Life and Crimes of The Donald in 15-20 years no one will believe everything. Itll seem too preposterous for real life.
Emile
(43,276 posts)jmowreader
(53,397 posts)What pushes his criming over the top is the position hes in. As president he has more loot to take and more lives to ruin than other criminals do, and boy hes taking advantage of it.
MayReasonRule
(4,137 posts)There obviously were a whole host of Americans guilty of committing genocide after genocide in addition to many other mass crimes against humanity.
Trump is the worst in my lifetime.
ITAL
(1,379 posts)That's the number generally thought of as all of the people living in both of the American continents in 1492. The people actually living in what became the United States would be a small fraction of that (5-million maybe). That's not to say it wasn't still a genocide, but I see that 100M figure quoted so much, when it was two continents worth of people, not what is now the modern US.
NNadir
(38,548 posts)...but those predecessors held human beings as if they were farm animals, bought and sold them, raped them, beat them, and so on.
The fondness of these people for that practice led to a war in which close to 600,000 Americans died, led by criminal traitors like, say, Robert E. Lee and that ilk.
The orange felon isn't very bright, and his nostalgia for the age of supreme and extreme racism is clear enough, but no, he's not the worst, in history, perhaps the worst in the 21st century, but not the worst in American history.
FarPoint
(14,942 posts)Major Mafia Mob Boss...
traveler50
(21 posts)The biggest criminal elected to be President. He makes Nixon look like an underachiever.
Criminal president we have ever had. Hes also surrounded himself with criminals in his administration.
MissouriDem47
(442 posts)Last edited Wed Jul 23, 2025, 08:09 PM - Edit history (1)
TACO is the first adjudicated criminal president in our nations history.
Torchlight
(7,066 posts)But I doubt anyone's gotten really close to Madoff's final book before the walls closed in on him.
berniesandersmittens
(13,211 posts)His cult is as twisted and evil as he is. He represents every crime, sin, and social moray of humanity.
If he was ever allowed to realize his worst fantasies, he would absolutely become the worst human ever in history. He very well may have control of all global power at his fingers already. Folks, our beds are on fire. ..
Edit: took a gummy and my words just aren't coming out right. Just, to shit with it all damn it.
Botany
(77,863 posts)1 Putin
2 Musk
3 Peter Theil
berniesandersmittens
(13,211 posts)I hope, pray, mediate, and beg that the forces of good are quietly saving us behind the scenes.
ancianita
(43,363 posts)OverBurn
(1,292 posts)red dog 1
(33,471 posts)Will VonShitzInPantz cancel elections?
Listen to what he tells Christians about voting for him one last time and then not having to vote anymore.
Doodley
(12,079 posts)rampartd
(5,045 posts)He is ,snatching the treasury,, the retirement funds, the ear ings of all future generations and fort Knox and I think he will get away with it
damifino10
(168 posts)He is most certainly a mass murderer.
Mossfern
(4,781 posts)of anything - it only feeds his ego.
Susan Calvin
(2,469 posts)Indubitably.
Trueblue Texan
(4,612 posts)oasis
(53,986 posts)Joinfortmill
(21,669 posts)Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)A failure but effective liar with a media smoke screen, all this ever was?
Mblaze
(1,104 posts)Yes
surfered
(14,296 posts)RipVanWinkle
(268 posts)Mad king
mwb970
(12,162 posts)As far as I can tell, trump is literally the very worst person on the planet.
kimbutgar
(27,558 posts)the orange Hitler knows how to work the legal system via his mentor roy Cohn
LymphocyteLover
(10,156 posts)He's a walking crime against humanity
mdbl
(8,755 posts)Dump is just the apex of what they have been trying to achieve for decades. Add to that the abdication of the SCROTUS oversight of the constitution and fascism is here.
Martin68
(28,072 posts)babylonsister
(172,804 posts)YorkRd
(440 posts)Pedo, rapist. Traitor , unparalleled corruption
orleans
(37,195 posts)i've been wondering the last few months where the hell she is
Dem4life1970
(1,056 posts)Longer answer is that he makes Richard Nixon and Warren Harding look like saints. Even before he stole his way into office in 2016 with the help of the Russian government the man was as crooked as a corn maze. He has monetized the US presidency in a way no president has ever done in 250 years. He's the only president in American history to launch an attack on the United States. He lied his way back into office last year after receiving 34 felony accounts and two impeachments. He stole classified documents. He violates the emoluments clause on a daily basis. The list is too long. The Epstein stuff is the cherry on top of the 💩 cake.
Polybius
(22,120 posts)Not nearly as many as W Bush, although he still has 3 1/2 years left to catch up.
fujiyamasan
(2,040 posts)But in bushs case it was pretty obvious. I think people have forgotten his war basically set the Middle East on fire with the Iraq civil war and its aftermath.
gfarber
(278 posts)A query arose, sharp and keen,
"Is Trump the worst criminal seen?"
With charges so grave,
And secrets to wave,
Some wonder, "Where has justice been?"
It continued, quite absurd,
"Is Trump the worst, have you heard?"
With tales of his past,
And shadows he's cast,
Some folks think he's truly deterred.
There's plenty of evidence, dark as night,
"Is Trump the worst, with all his might?"
With shadows he cast,
And secrets amassed,
A chilling and sinister sight.
FakeNoose
(42,424 posts)There's nothing about him that is admirable or likable. That's probably a good enough reason why he has no friends.
Whether he's the worst criminal ... well ... I couldn't say. Some killers have killed more. Some thieves have stolen more. Some rapists have molested more. But we don't know the entire scope of Chump's evil deeds, so it's hard to say if he's the worst.
Groundhawg
(1,233 posts)90-percent
(6,956 posts)Who in America do you consider a worse criminal.?
Thanks for your attention in this matter
-90% jimmy
Groundhawg
(1,233 posts)GoodRaisin
(11,061 posts)ellise
(38 posts)History will not be kind to those who failed to accept and deal with this mentally unstable criminal. Hope that I live long enough to see it..please Lord.
ellise
(38 posts)History will not be kind to those who failed to accept and deal with this mentally unstable criminal. Hope that I live long enough to see it..please Lord.
JohnnyRingo
(20,994 posts)That could put him in Super Villain territory.
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