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"I ain't never seen Vegas like this on a Saturday night. Where's the people. Holy shit." (Original Post) Swede Jul 2025 OP
Well foreign tourists aren't coming Ritabert Jul 2025 #1
Gamble on your phone. No need to travel. Srkdqltr Jul 2025 #2
No, just like Amazon put out shopping malls BS Blue Full Moon Jul 2025 #25
Between multiple fees on rooms edhopper Jul 2025 #3
that is very true rollin74 Jul 2025 #4
Is it possible to know the TRUE cost of a Vegas hotel room before booking it? JoseBalow Jul 2025 #56
Not just Vegas MurrayDelph Jul 2025 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 2025 #5
I lived there from 3/20 - 6/22 Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #7
There are no dispensaries on the actual strip from what I saw on my last visit newdeal2 Jul 2025 #15
Yep Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #24
Pot stores, gun stores... Wednesdays Jul 2025 #48
You know what though? Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #49
Yep jonstl08 Jul 2025 #62
Sounds like America Torchlight Jul 2025 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 2025 #12
Perhaps you're not? Torchlight Jul 2025 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jul 2025 #19
It's kind of an unwritten rule that LV Metro Police Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #27
Pretty strong in Portland sometimes CanonRay Jul 2025 #41
what's wrong with smelling like pot? Skittles Jul 2025 #43
Nothing for me. CanonRay Jul 2025 #44
For a town that transitioned Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #50
Live in New York edhopper Jul 2025 #23
Center City Philadelphia PA smells like Reefer all the time. BBbats Jul 2025 #39
Lmao...that was my takeaway Docreed2003 Jul 2025 #40
Three long time Vegas insiders explain... Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #6
That was interesting! Thanks rurallib Jul 2025 #22
"The tariffs that were put in place in early 2025 has many international tourists staying away from Las Vegas... W_HAMILTON Jul 2025 #46
I'm sure it being brutally hot there isn't helping, either. GoCubsGo Jul 2025 #68
Aren't most Traildogbob Jul 2025 #8
Grand Slam if Krasnov (r-felon) can bankrupt all the casinos BoRaGard Jul 2025 #61
We're Going In 2 Weeks Deep State Witch Jul 2025 #10
Wait until you see the taxes that will be added to you room rate. Melon Jul 2025 #16
The Rio Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #28
Have fun! SheltieLover Jul 2025 #35
That Sounds Like Fun ProfessorGAC Jul 2025 #36
My mother and I saw Colm Meany in Moon for the Misbegotten MIButterfly Jul 2025 #54
This then is atypical? Torchlight Jul 2025 #11
A lot of Vegas mega-moneybucksters are bigly backers of the GOP syndicate BoRaGard Jul 2025 #13
It's JULY. maxsolomon Jul 2025 #14
It's a dry heat Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #29
Anything over 90 and Seattleites melt. maxsolomon Jul 2025 #31
Tell me about it! Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #32
It's way overpriced. Absurdly so. The strip is dangerous Melon Jul 2025 #18
Just like almost every city in America. Hey Joe Jul 2025 #34
No where close. It's not everywhere in America. There are a few cities that have gone to complete garbage. Melon Jul 2025 #37
Youtubers have been reporting the decline in visitors Demovictory9 Jul 2025 #20
Greg in SF edhopper Jul 2025 #21
Greed/Corruption. Here's a good story. My husband worked at a Greyhound track. (Microsoft Engineer) chouchou Jul 2025 #26
The billionaires are siphoning all the money Blue Owl Jul 2025 #30
LITERALLY vapor2 Jul 2025 #38
Nevadans boted for this. Just as Ohio did FTR irisblue Jul 2025 #33
u mispeld boated Nimble_Idea Jul 2025 #60
The World series of Poker just ended. iemanja Jul 2025 #42
I loved to watch the World Series of poker.....then they moved it to a streaming service. a kennedy Jul 2025 #64
A lot of it was free on the pokergo YouTube channel iemanja Jul 2025 #66
Hey, thanks, will check it out. a kennedy Jul 2025 #67
You'd probably enjoy this highlight reel iemanja Jul 2025 #69
Because Vegas is crap... and everyone is trying to get out... Chakaconcarne Jul 2025 #45
When Covid came we really took a hit and the only people visiting were riff-raff, the dollar general crowd. pecosbob Jul 2025 #47
Costs too much. Xolodno Jul 2025 #51
You know what? ._. Jul 2025 #52
Love the Picture MrsCheaplaugh Jul 2025 #63
Back in the 80s I use to go there for some big fights. multigraincracker Jul 2025 #53
My mother and I used to go to Vegas every year. It was so cheap back then MIButterfly Jul 2025 #55
I'm calling BULLSHIT Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #57
I initially assumed it's partly seasonal given how hot it is right now fujiyamasan Jul 2025 #59
Glacier National Park was EASY to drive thu the weekend after the 4th. Maru Kitteh Jul 2025 #65
I would think their workforce would be taking a major hit senseandsensibility Jul 2025 #70

Ritabert

(2,446 posts)
1. Well foreign tourists aren't coming
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:30 PM
Jul 2025

....why would they? And Americans are conserving their money due to the whiplash tariffs. Haven't been there in years. Not going back.

edhopper

(37,370 posts)
3. Between multiple fees on rooms
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:34 PM
Jul 2025

changing the odds at Casinos, ridiculous prices at restaurants, sky high event tickets Vegas is doing everything it can to push away visitors.

JoseBalow

(9,489 posts)
56. Is it possible to know the TRUE cost of a Vegas hotel room before booking it?
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 01:00 AM
Jul 2025

If so, how?

MurrayDelph

(5,752 posts)
58. Not just Vegas
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 01:09 AM
Jul 2025

I stopped going to Vegas 20+ years ago, when they raised table minimums above what I am willing to risk. But my commute started taking me through Reno, where I could still play. After COVID, that went away, too. Casinos would rather have dealers standing around an empty Craps or Pai-Gow table at $15 minimum bet than have a bunch of low-rollers playing $5 min and there not be a spot for their mythical whale.

Response to Swede (Original post)

Greg_In_SF

(1,245 posts)
7. I lived there from 3/20 - 6/22
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:40 PM
Jul 2025

Not a gambler, so never went to the strip , but the entire town smells like weed. There's are pot stores and gun stores on every corner.

newdeal2

(5,417 posts)
15. There are no dispensaries on the actual strip from what I saw on my last visit
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:47 PM
Jul 2025

Everything legal is off strip at least from what I could tell.

But before weed, it smelled like cigarettes and booze. Pick your poison I guess.

Greg_In_SF

(1,245 posts)
49. You know what though?
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 10:28 PM
Jul 2025

Away from the strip, is really is just a normal place to live. People dropping kids at school, grocery shopping, going to the bank...just every day normal life. I lived on the west side of town which is really quite nice.

Car insurance is astronomically high though. 24-hour drinking town = lots of DUIs and crashes.

jonstl08

(565 posts)
62. Yep
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 08:56 AM
Jul 2025

Went there for the first time about 3 years ago for an NFL game. Except for Westgate Sports Book the entire town including the casinos and strip all smelled like weed. Was not impressed.

When my sister picked me up from the airport after I got back everything I had including the clothes I was wearing smelled like weed. It was that bad. Have no desire to go back.

Response to Torchlight (Reply #9)

Torchlight

(6,830 posts)
17. Perhaps you're not?
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:48 PM
Jul 2025

(I doubt different opinions about a city are a valid indication of foreign birth)

Response to Torchlight (Reply #17)

Greg_In_SF

(1,245 posts)
27. It's kind of an unwritten rule that LV Metro Police
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:20 PM
Jul 2025

won't mess with you on the strip unless you basically walk right up to them and light a joint in their face. They just look the other way.

Greg_In_SF

(1,245 posts)
50. For a town that transitioned
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 10:32 PM
Jul 2025

in to a family friendly destination to increase tourism, having your entire tourist district smell like weed is absolutely moronic.

Docreed2003

(18,714 posts)
40. Lmao...that was my takeaway
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:49 PM
Jul 2025

I've been to Vegas twice in the last two years for conferences and you comment was exactly what I said to friends and family when I got home.

I'm no prude but the pot smell is obnoxiously ever present and the prices have become ridiculously high on everything in the city, from hotels and food down to a simple Uber/Lyft ride.

W_HAMILTON

(10,333 posts)
46. "The tariffs that were put in place in early 2025 has many international tourists staying away from Las Vegas...
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:46 PM
Jul 2025

...due to uncertainty. This matters a lot because international tourists typically stay longer, gamble more, and spend more on shows and dining than domestic visitors. New trade policies have made traveling to the US more expensive for foreign tourists, while Canadian airlines have reduced flights to Vegas as demand dropped."

GoCubsGo

(34,915 posts)
68. I'm sure it being brutally hot there isn't helping, either.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 12:56 PM
Jul 2025

Like a lot of that part of the country, they are seeing more and more days of triple-digit temperatures than they ever have, often topping 110 degrees. Currently, they're also having air quality issues, thanks to nearby wildfires.

And, with everything else getting more and more expensive, thanks to Dementia J. Trump's stupidity, who the the hell can afford to travel at all? I sure as hell can't.

Traildogbob

(13,018 posts)
8. Aren't most
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:40 PM
Jul 2025

Of those billionaires that own casinos, restaurants and Hotel’s in Vegas trump sugar daddies?
Who better to get the full shit in their face than his peeps? Funny he may bankrupt all the Vegas Casinos. He is great at that.

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
61. Grand Slam if Krasnov (r-felon) can bankrupt all the casinos
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 07:36 AM
Jul 2025
FAIL Supreme.
The republican draft-dodging, casino and teen beauty queen hustler, would then have a perfect lifetime score of screwing over everyone and everything he ever came in contact with.

Impressive.

Deep State Witch

(12,717 posts)
10. We're Going In 2 Weeks
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:40 PM
Jul 2025

To the 60th Anniversary Star Trek Convention at the Rio. I haven't been to Vegas in over 20 years. The room rates are astronomical - even with the convention rate. We're going mainly because there's one star that we've been trying to get his autograph for years, but he doesn't do cons very often. (Colm Meaney).

This is costing us about as much as the Star Trek Cruise - only it's in Vegas in the summer.

ProfessorGAC

(76,706 posts)
36. That Sounds Like Fun
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:03 PM
Jul 2025

I went to Vegas on a Sunday when I was in SoCal the weekend before a plant visit.
I drive there because the MGM Grand had The Star Trek Experience.
I went through it twice, including the shuttle attack thrill ride, stopped to eat at the Luxor, and drove back to LA.
I've never been to a Trek convention. Hope you have fun!

MIButterfly

(2,696 posts)
54. My mother and I saw Colm Meany in Moon for the Misbegotten
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 12:42 AM
Jul 2025

with Kevin Spacey and Eve Best in New York in 2007. We stood outside the stage store for autographs after the play and he was very nice and gracious. I was a big fan of Kevin Spacey back then. Not anymore.

Torchlight

(6,830 posts)
11. This then is atypical?
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:41 PM
Jul 2025

I've never gone, and any knowledge I hold comes from 70s police dramas and 90s films.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
14. It's JULY.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:46 PM
Jul 2025

It's 97 degrees there currently. No thanks, even if I'm at a pool.

The sheep will return to be fleeced when it cools off.

Greg_In_SF

(1,245 posts)
29. It's a dry heat
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:23 PM
Jul 2025

with 8% humidity today. When I lived there, my cutoff 'uncomfortable temperature' was 105°

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
31. Anything over 90 and Seattleites melt.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:32 PM
Jul 2025

Well, Native Seattleites start to whine at 80. Imports have a little more tolerance.

Greg_In_SF

(1,245 posts)
32. Tell me about it!
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:37 PM
Jul 2025

I moved to LV from San Francisco where it was basically 65° every day for 30 years

Melon

(1,525 posts)
18. It's way overpriced. Absurdly so. The strip is dangerous
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 02:50 PM
Jul 2025

At night with aggressive homeless people on drugs everywhere. I had one take a swing at me while walking with my children.

They have also changed the odds on blackjack and roulette( payout). It’s just not fun. The buffets are $75 a plate.

Hey Joe

(615 posts)
34. Just like almost every city in America.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:49 PM
Jul 2025

Greed has destroyed this country and made it harder to just live your life.
If I could afford to move to another country I certainly would not hesitate. Every thing here is a fraud, a shakedown or a lie.

Melon

(1,525 posts)
37. No where close. It's not everywhere in America. There are a few cities that have gone to complete garbage.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 04:07 PM
Jul 2025

This is one. If you move to EU, there are cities with the same or worse street crime now. Here it is drugs. There it is other social issues with rampant pickpockets and scammers, and mugging and assaults at night. You are running from this issue unless you choose carefully.

chouchou

(3,144 posts)
26. Greed/Corruption. Here's a good story. My husband worked at a Greyhound track. (Microsoft Engineer)
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 03:19 PM
Jul 2025

He said: "Was rather a good job and paid well and watch the doggies."
"I was concerned when trainers/owners of the place started giving me tips that night...and lots of nights"
"I mean, I was afraid the FBI or someone would raid the place..: The tips were NOT who is going to win"
"It was who WASN'T going to even run 4th or last. It was like the proverbial candy from a baby.....except"
"..One thing those "Tipsters" forgot. The average person got sick and tired of NEVER WINNING"
"So...in 2009...the place closed....why would you bet on a dog that looked good only to trail the pack..
...and walk out of the place broke ,,every night... .
That was in Hudson Wisconsin..

iemanja

(57,757 posts)
42. The World series of Poker just ended.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 06:22 PM
Jul 2025

And the Grinder probably took his ten million and his rail back to Florida.

a kennedy

(35,994 posts)
64. I loved to watch the World Series of poker.....then they moved it to a streaming service.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 09:53 AM
Jul 2025

I won’t pay to watch it….but I did enjoy when it was on regular cable tv. 🤬

iemanja

(57,757 posts)
66. A lot of it was free on the pokergo YouTube channel
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 12:22 PM
Jul 2025

And next year GG poker is taking over the streaming, so it should all be free on their YouTube channel.

iemanja

(57,757 posts)
69. You'd probably enjoy this highlight reel
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 04:50 PM
Jul 2025

of the final table of the Main Event.


That is an hour-long summary, but the FT only lasted four hours, I hour on the second day. This is a shorter video breaking down every hand busting a player out.

It truly was a remarkable final table.

Chakaconcarne

(2,787 posts)
45. Because Vegas is crap... and everyone is trying to get out...
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 07:36 PM
Jul 2025

Based on the increase of available houses on the market currently.

pecosbob

(8,387 posts)
47. When Covid came we really took a hit and the only people visiting were riff-raff, the dollar general crowd.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 09:47 PM
Jul 2025

We started seeing shit we never saw before in Las Vegas...cigarette butts in the swimming pools, trash on the streets, people wearing pajamas and crocs. At the same time the hotel-casinos have devolved into clip-joint shopping malls with crappy smelly rooms, bedbugs and constant break-ins.

Now the tariffs and harassment of non-citizens are depressing room occupancy even further. I say forget Vegas...go visit a national park instead while we still have them.

Xolodno

(7,350 posts)
51. Costs too much.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 10:44 PM
Jul 2025

It's $20 to park your car when that used to be free or if casino's did charge, it was $5. Food at dining establishments have skyrocketed and so have show/event tickets. And never mind the price of the room, they advertise a cheap rate and then tack on a bunch of extra's like "resort fee's" to use the internet and pool (and the pools are closed during the winter).

And quality has gone down on everything.

And of course most people don't gamble anymore, they know the odds are stacked against them. But the casino's keep raising the minimum bets to the point people for sure won't bother. Having some cheap table games, even if electronic, is more likely to get people to actually play (seen it in Native American casinos). Heck, if you make the parking fee a voucher to play on the games you would actually encourage people to play beyond that.

The level of greed is pushing people away and of course the clown in the Whitehouse isn't helping with foreign tourists.

._.

(1,832 posts)
52. You know what?
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 11:34 PM
Jul 2025

I can say the same thing about Fisherman's Wharf in SF on a Sunday in July..



Where are all the tourists?



MrsCheaplaugh

(275 posts)
63. Love the Picture
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 09:43 AM
Jul 2025

To answer your question, the tourists are staying home. After the orange blob psychopath insulted my homeland, as a Canadian I lost interest in visiting your country. I also don't want to risk getting sent to El Salvador because said psychopath doesn't like a picture on my phone.

If you had elected the scary black lady, I would have been happy to book another trip to Las Vegas. But I'm going to Montreal instead. You people really have to do something about the blob because he's flushing your tourism industry straight down a toilet.

multigraincracker

(37,651 posts)
53. Back in the 80s I use to go there for some big fights.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 12:00 AM
Jul 2025

Was friends with a bookie in Detroit. I use to pick up and deliver cash for him, so he rewarded me with tickets for some major boxing matches.
Back then there were no greater bargains than Vegas. Great room for $20/nights, all you could eat buffets for $1.99 and so on. The casinos were getting rich on the gamblers, so they gave everything else away.
Don’t know what happened, but that all went away.

MIButterfly

(2,696 posts)
55. My mother and I used to go to Vegas every year. It was so cheap back then
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 12:54 AM
Jul 2025

especially if you went in August (nobody wanted to go to the desert in August) or the week before Christmas. The airfare was cheap; the rooms were cheap; the food was cheap; they had all kinds of freebies all over the place. The last time we went was 2013 and all of that was gone already. Everything was just as expensive as any other big city and don't get me started on "resort fees" which is an extra charge they gouge you with even if you don't use the services they're supposedly for. It's too bad because we really loved going there.

I can only imagine it's gotten worse since 2013.

Greg_In_SF

(1,245 posts)
57. I'm calling BULLSHIT
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 01:07 AM
Jul 2025

here.

That is supposed to be a video from this past Saturday morning at 1:00am. Here's what was happening late Friday evening.

There are WAY too many Vegas bloggers to make an idiot believe that this video was filmed at 1:00am last Saturday morning.

You have to click to watch...

&t=4709s

fujiyamasan

(1,695 posts)
59. I initially assumed it's partly seasonal given how hot it is right now
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 01:36 AM
Jul 2025

I agree with others in that It has gotten increasingly expensive, but I’d have to check the stats to see if it has necessarily become more crime ridden or violent.

But I think international tourists will find alternatives to a town mostly known for casinos and being flashy. In many ways Vegas just isn’t that unique anymore.

If ICE crackdowns continue the city will definitely suffer a drop in tourism. I can’t see why Asian tourists especially will continue to flock there. They may as well head to somewhere like Macau. And if they want over the top glitz some may consider a place like Dubai. Oh well, self inflicted wound if it turns out that way. Nevada did vote for Trump. I know, I know Clark county didnt, but nevertheless it’s supposed to be the firewall.

Maru Kitteh

(31,763 posts)
65. Glacier National Park was EASY to drive thu the weekend after the 4th.
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 11:48 AM
Jul 2025

I took my oldest daughter and my grandaughter on Goint to the Sun Road over to the Blackfeet Reservation where we stayed for a few days. Everywhere we went felt practically ALONE on the road, in the middle of the day, on a SUNDAY, at the absolute height of tourist season, on a perfect blue-sky day. We had no trouble parking at Logan Pass or at Avalanche. Those areas should have been inaccessible. We never had to wait for a table, even at the park lodges. Pull-offs all over the road were empty, even the best ones with some of the most expansive and well-photographed views in the world.

senseandsensibility

(24,978 posts)
70. I would think their workforce would be taking a major hit
Tue Jul 22, 2025, 05:46 PM
Jul 2025

Very high concentration of Hispanics in the LV labor force. They may be afraid to show up because of ICE. I would imagine that a significant number of the tourists are Hispanic as well.

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