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PeaceWave

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Thu Jul 24, 2025, 06:24 PM Jul 2025

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) PeaceWave Jul 2025 OP
Well .... MaeScott Jul 2025 #1
Guys Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #2
I don't see how it's sexual harassment. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2025 #3
I Have To Agree ProfessorGAC Jul 2025 #4
I've said this to male coworkers who tended to be hasty Ferryboat Jul 2025 #5
Where I work it would get someone in deep shit. JanMichael Jul 2025 #6
I've heard men being told not to get Raine Jul 2025 #7

MaeScott

(973 posts)
1. Well ....
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 06:32 PM
Jul 2025

That person should get their dick unknotted then.

 

Greg_In_SF

(1,312 posts)
2. Guys
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 06:52 PM
Jul 2025

say this to guys too

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,227 posts)
3. I don't see how it's sexual harassment.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 06:54 PM
Jul 2025

From the EEOC:

Harassment becomes unlawful where 1) enduring the offensive conduct becomes a condition of continued employment, or 2) the conduct is severe or pervasive enough to create a work environment that a reasonable person would consider intimidating, hostile, or abusive.

(snip)

Petty slights, annoyances, and isolated incidents (unless extremely serious) will not rise to the level of illegality. To be unlawful, the conduct must create a work environment that would be intimidating, hostile, or offensive to reasonable people.

ProfessorGAC

(77,266 posts)
4. I Have To Agree
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 07:03 PM
Jul 2025

Having worked for decades in a corporate environment, I know that when there is a complaint, the lawyers who investigate are looking to establish a pattern.
By definition, one off-handed remark, even if inappropriate, can't firm a pattern.
Now, there may be more to this particular story, but we can't know it from this write-up.
We had to make several cultural shifts as we became more international because we ran our foreign plants under the same rules as our American sites. (Which is the law for American corporations, but woefully few companies actually do it.)
Brazil was a particular issue for us. I couldn't send my female reports there, because nobody would listen to them & make the recommended changes.
Then, I'd have to go down there to make them do what my staff members said. That's a waste of effort & embarrassing for my subordinates. So, I would just make changes there myself.
5 years later, the site manager was a woman. So, we did change attitudes.

Ferryboat

(1,269 posts)
5. I've said this to male coworkers who tended to be hasty
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 07:09 PM
Jul 2025

This took place in a all male shipboard environment.
We would break each others balls all the time. No offense was given nor taken.
But when in my employment with the state of WA, such comments were too risky.

JanMichael

(25,725 posts)
6. Where I work it would get someone in deep shit.
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 07:09 PM
Jul 2025

Maybe not fired but dressed down.

Raine

(31,237 posts)
7. I've heard men being told not to get
Thu Jul 24, 2025, 07:09 PM
Jul 2025

their knickers in a knot.

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