Without Ghislaine Maxwell There Would Not Have Been A Jeffrey Epstein

[gab13by13]

I believe that statement was made by attorney Bradley Edwards who represented 5 of the Epstein victims, now down to 3. One overdosed and the other committed suicide.

Maxwell was chic and had the ability to convince little girls that she could make them models or get them to college, she could convince little girls where a man could not.

Maxwell was a monster who recruited the little girls for Epstein, without her there would not be a Jeffrey Epstein, and Democrats need to spread that message when Maxwell comes out with her lying statements.

[Kid Berwyn]

1. Girls run away from creepy men.

Girls trust “nice” women with rich friends who can “help.”

[gab13by13]

2. Absolutely,

in a way Maxwell was worse than Epstein, and Magats are now calling her a victim. I hope to fuck that lie doesn't take hold.

[Blue Full Moon]

15. That's how they work it.

[CrispyQ]

3. That's a broad bullshit statement that conveniently lets the men off the hook.

Not every sex trafficking ring has a woman assistant. She's scum, just as bad as they are, but men like this would have found a way without her.

[gab13by13]

8. That statement was made by Bradley Edwards

an attorney who represented 5 victims at the trial. He told the stories about what Maxwell did to and how she did it to enslave little girls. Maxwell was involved in many of the sexual assaults.

Ghislaine Maxwell is a monster who enabled Jeffrey Epstein.

I stand by reposting what Bradley Edwards said, it in no way lets Epstein off the hook.

[CrispyQ]

11. I don't care who said it, it's bullshit & IMO it does imply that Epstein isn't as culpable as Maxwell. -nt

[AZJonnie]

13. Taken on it's face, yes it's bullshit

But I think the intended insinuation was that the scope of his crimes would've been much smaller and therefore the scale of the 'Epstein Story' would've been much more limited. IOW it's 'the story', more so than 'the man' that's meant by 'there'd be no Epstein'.

And in that context it's probably mostly true. She recruited a LOT of his teen victims, nearly all the ones we've ever heard from, and I'm sure the presence of a woman there like her made them feel 'safer' going to Epstein's houses than they ever would have if it was him trying to lure them there.

They are BOTH monsters and she was a very major facilitator and accomplice in his crimes.

[stopdiggin]

14. the 'over the top' (misleading if you will) part of the statement remains

"there would be no .." And, that, is frankly just not true. These people have always found a way ...

We don't have to minimize Maxwell's part in any way - in order to continue to insist that Epstein was the engine ....

[AZJonnie]

16. Well remember it was also in the context of a trial against Maxwell, and Epstein was dead

I already stipulated that taken on its face its bullshit, but viewed in the context in which it was said, it's not hard to glean what was actually intended by the speaker

[stopdiggin]

17. yeah - hyberbole - from the mouth of a lawyer ... quelle surprise!

My argument probably goes to the OP - for digging it back up as today's clickbait.

[3catwoman3]

4. That a fellow female would/could/did enable the exploitation...

...of other females is beyond abhorrent.

[sop]

5. Maxwell was Epstein's procurer and groomer.

Procurer - A person who procures women or girls as prostitutes. Groomer - Someone who develops a relationship with a child with the intention of trying to persuade them to have a sexual relationship.

[gab13by13]

9. Nope Nope Nope

14 year old girls are not prostitutes, that's what Alan Dershowitz called them. They were victims of sex trafficking.

[H2O Man]

22. Alan has said

that he thinks the age of consent should be 14.

[AZJonnie]

23. The textbook definition of prostitution is accepting money for sexual favors

Let me clear here, from the standpoint of disparagingly referring to the victims as 'prostitutes', then absolutely yes, that's a bullshit thing to do. If you are not old enough to 'consent' (which 14 is not) then any sex (unless you're in their age group) is statutory rape

However, all of the victims were paid in exchange for sexual favors, that's why a number of them returned to the Epstein house, in some cases many times, over months or even years. It's uncomfortable to ponder, but it's factual, and testified to by the victims.

So, again, while calling a 14 yo victim 'a prostitute' is fucked up and wrong, at the same time, it's not inaccurate to say Maxwell identified, then lured and groomed the girls into a life of prostitution. That was her 'job' and that's what she did. They themselves were not 'prostitutes' they were victims, but the pattern of behavior meets the definition of 'prostitution', if that makes sense?

[femmedem]

10. She allegedly also assaulted them herself, according to one of the victims I heard on MSNBC.

And there's this testimony, as reported in the BBC:

But for these women this was no fairytale. It was a nightmare and it was very real. How real became apparent the following day when Jane took the stand.

She testified that Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein approached her when she was 14 years old at a summer arts camp in 1994.

Over the next two years, she said she was abused about every other week with Maxwell sometimes taking part.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59736227

[TexasBushwhacker]

12. Yes, but if it weren't Ghislane it would have been someone else

Ghislane grew up in privilege but found out when her father died that her inheritance wasn't nearly what she expected. She would do ANYTHING to get her life of privilege back. Are there other women out there like her? ABSOLUTELY!!!

[jrthin]

6. You are absolutely right!

[CoopersDad]

7. Trump is her enabler, that's even worse.

Our president is happy to excuse her behavior, to give her a pass.

Every day, it gets worse and worse.

[IronLionZion]

18. Newsmax out there saying she's the real victim

because she's likely to get a Trump pardon in exchange for lying about his involvement.

[BattleRow]

19. It just occurred to me that

Ghislaine Maxwell had no children of her own
Perhaps if she had,her choices may have been different..or worse..

[Wiz Imp]

20. Bradley Edwards has represented over 200 of Epstein's victims

https://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/watch/congress-can-subpoena-epstein-birthday-book-from-epstein-estate-epstein-victims-lawyer-says-243745349678

In a Last Word exclusive interview, Bradley Edwards, an attorney who has represented over 200 survivors of Jeffrey Epstein’s abuse, reveals that he believes the Jeffrey Epstein birthday book with a letter bearing Donald Trump’s name as reported first by The Wall Street Journal is in possession of the Epstein estate. Edwards also reacts to the treatment of Epstein’s victims in the coverage of the Trump-Epstein scandal.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2235625136712757/posts/4122002518075000/

BREAKING: An attorney who represented over 200 of Jeffrey Epstein's victims drops a bombshell on Donald Trump by revealing that he knows where to find the birthday book containing his creepy drawing and letter to Epstein.

And it gets so much better...

Attorney Bradley Edwards says that the book is currently in the possession of the Epstein estate in Florida and it exists for an "absolute fact." He stated that he nows the estate executors and believes that they would relinquish the book if subpoenaed by Congress.

"I do know that they were involved in the assembly of the book, several of them,” Edwards said, speaking about "multiple" victims during an appearance on MSNBC’s "The Last Word."

[H2O Man]

21. Way recommended!