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4bonhoffer

(232 posts)
Sun Jul 27, 2025, 03:57 PM Jul 2025

Never agreed with Godwin's law

A loose interpretation of Godwin’s law is that the first person to mention Hitler in an argument loses that argument. I am sure I’m not the only one who thought that never made any sense. We are now building concentration camps. We are now rounding up people, including United States citizens and disappearing them without any due process by police who keep their identity secret. We are seeing the head of our nation. Ignore court orders. We are not starting down a very brutal path, we are ON that path. It is heartening to see that more and more of our Democratic representatives are starting to recognize that. There are still too many who are acting like this is politics as usual. I can only assume they never studied history. BLUE states need to jerrymander the hell out of their states to maintain a Democratic majority. it is time for the Democratic’s party to start doing voter caging in blue states on a major level. The Supreme Court has said that this is legal, it used to be illegal, however, the Supreme Court has made it legal, and the Republicans are going hog wild with it. voter caging is when you send a postcard to a voter in the mail that looks like junk mail, but says if you do not return this card, you will be removed from the voting list. Of course, gerrymandering and voter caging should be illegal, but they are not and to not play by the same rules as the Republicans are playing does not make the Democratic Party look ethical. It makes the Democratic Party look feckless and weak.Rightly so. We need to fight like hell with everything we can at the present time to try and save our democracy that so many have sacrificed so much to protect. The billionaires own the media and large platforms on the web so we need our Democratic representatives to make as much noise as possible, so that our message breaks through to the majority of the voting public who has no idea of what is going on. Everyone on this site is aware of all this, but believe me my experience in talking with people out on the street is that the vast majority of people think that everything is just going along as politics normally. Unfortunately, when the policies of this administration start kicking in, it will be around the time of the midterms and they will use everything in their power to convince people that the reason why the economy is crashing and why they are losing services that they used to have is the Democrats fault. And they have the media to be very effective at doing this, so we really need all of our democratic representatives to start pounding the table as loudly as they can. Of course we need the pound the table about Epstein, but we are on a very dangerous path right now. People who enjoy being brutal have been given a greenlight and if you think that’s gonna stop by itself, you are so very wrong..

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Never agreed with Godwin's law (Original Post) 4bonhoffer Jul 2025 OP
Paragraph breaks are your, and your readers', friend. Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #1
Agree! I also decided not to try tackling that huge wall of unbroken text. Towlie Jul 2025 #6
You know who else didn't use paragraph breaks? JoseBalow Jul 2025 #9
Godwin himself said the law is now obsolete in the face of Krasnov and co. Blues Heron Jul 2025 #2
This part... flying_wahini Jul 2025 #3
Welcome aboard 4bonhoffer JMCKUSICK Jul 2025 #4
That's not Godwins law. Gore1FL Jul 2025 #5
This! Celerity Jul 2025 #7
Worth reading....I put paragraphs breaks in to assist those who can't get through.... Bettie Jul 2025 #8

flying_wahini

(8,281 posts)
3. This part...
Sun Jul 27, 2025, 04:07 PM
Jul 2025

BLUE states need to jerrymander the hell out of their states to maintain a Democratic majority. it is time for the Democratic’s party to start doing voter caging in blue states on a major level. The Supreme Court has said that this is legal, it used to be illegal, however, the Supreme Court has made it legal, and the Republicans are going hog wild with it. voter caging is when you send a postcard to a voter in the mail that looks like junk mail, but says if you do not return this card, you will be removed from the voting list.


(The post card looks like junk mail has been used several times when I lived in the Houston area)

Time for Pay Back for the GOP in Blue States

JMCKUSICK

(6,623 posts)
4. Welcome aboard 4bonhoffer
Sun Jul 27, 2025, 04:12 PM
Jul 2025

Your post is far too important to quibble over grammar.
I agree with you 100%.
Why aren't Democrats ever the ones pushing the envelope edges? We need to fight the fight we have, not the one we want. So fuck norms and traditions, and fight for the fucking right for those two words to even have meaning!

Gore1FL

(22,982 posts)
5. That's not Godwins law.
Sun Jul 27, 2025, 04:17 PM
Jul 2025

Godwin's law is given enough time, every discussion on th einterent will eventually involve Hitler. Godwin never mentions winners or losers.

Celerity

(54,896 posts)
7. This!
Sun Jul 27, 2025, 04:31 PM
Jul 2025

Amazing that this incorrect definition given by the OP is so amazingly widespread.

Sigh

Bettie

(19,881 posts)
8. Worth reading....I put paragraphs breaks in to assist those who can't get through....
Sun Jul 27, 2025, 04:33 PM
Jul 2025

A loose interpretation of Godwin’s law is that the first person to mention Hitler in an argument loses that argument.

I am sure I’m not the only one who thought that never made any sense. We are now building concentration camps. We are now rounding up people, including United States citizens and disappearing them without any due process by police who keep their identity secret. We are seeing the head of our nation. Ignore court orders. We are not starting down a very brutal path, we are ON that path.

It is heartening to see that more and more of our Democratic representatives are starting to recognize that. There are still too many who are acting like this is politics as usual. I can only assume they never studied history. BLUE states need to jerrymander the hell out of their states to maintain a Democratic majority. it is time for the Democrat's party to start doing voter caging in blue states on a major level.

The Supreme Court has said that this is legal, it used to be illegal, however, the Supreme Court has made it legal, and the Republicans are going hog wild with it. voter caging is when you send a postcard to a voter in the mail that looks like junk mail, but says if you do not return this card, you will be removed from the voting list.

Of course, gerrymandering and voter caging should be illegal, but they are not and to not play by the same rules as the Republicans are playing does not make the Democratic Party look ethical. It makes the Democratic Party look feckless and weak. Rightly so.

We need to fight like hell with everything we can at the present time to try and save our democracy that so many have sacrificed so much to protect. The billionaires own the media and large platforms on the web so we need our Democratic representatives to make as much noise as possible, so that our message breaks through to the majority of the voting public who has no idea of what is going on.

Everyone on this site is aware of all this, but believe me my experience in talking with people out on the street is that the vast majority of people think that everything is just going along as politics normally.

Unfortunately, when the policies of this administration start kicking in, it will be around the time of the midterms and they will use everything in their power to convince people that the reason why the economy is crashing and why they are losing services that they used to have is the Democrats fault, and they have the media to be very effective at doing this, so we really need all of our democratic representatives to start pounding the table as loudly as they can.

Of course we need the pound the table about Epstein, but we are on a very dangerous path right now. People who enjoy being brutal have been given a greenlight and if you think that’s gonna stop by itself, you are so very wrong..

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