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oxymoron

(4,077 posts)
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 09:36 PM Jul 2025

A request for our LGBTQ+ allies.

Please do not include us in the discussion of pedophilia, on any level. It is the ugliest of the right-wing talking points that we endure daily. Whether it be a conversation about a flag or a seemingly minor issue, we don't need our side bolstering their hateful accusations. I know it's often unintentional, but keep in mind the optics.

Thanks!

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A request for our LGBTQ+ allies. (Original Post) oxymoron Jul 2025 OP
huh? marble falls Jul 2025 #1
I was trying to be a bit vague. oxymoron Jul 2025 #2
I figured that's what you were talking about. n/t Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #3
Roger that Teammate BOSSHOG Jul 2025 #4
Thanks. my friend. That means a lot to me. nt oxymoron Jul 2025 #5
ding. AllaN01Bear Jul 2025 #6
a previous post seems to have been alerted multiple times but met the standards of DU members on those juries nt msongs Jul 2025 #7
I'm shocked that it is still up on DU oxymoron Jul 2025 #8
I thought my Adblock was preventing alerting oxymoron Jul 2025 #13
K&R Solly Mack Jul 2025 #9
I just wrote a reply to a message that showed prior to this one. slightlv Jul 2025 #10
it happens Skittles Jul 2025 #11
Yes, I'm on that thread. oxymoron Jul 2025 #15
You stepped on no-one's toes. marble falls Jul 2025 #18
92% of pedophiles are heterosexual.. Permanut Jul 2025 #12
That's the percentage of heterosexuals vs LGBTQ.... Melon Jul 2025 #16
Roger that.. Permanut Jul 2025 #17
So many allies and well-meaning people... Otterdaemmerung Jul 2025 #14

BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
4. Roger that Teammate
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 09:48 PM
Jul 2025

Old Straight Guy here never worried about LGBTQ+. Always worried about GOP+. There is zero rational reason to oppose or denigrate LGBTQ+. There is every rational reason to oppose GOP.

oxymoron

(4,077 posts)
13. I thought my Adblock was preventing alerting
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 11:42 PM
Jul 2025

So I resent it about three times in about five minutes. That's all. I haven't been a mod in a very long time, so not sure how it works these days.

slightlv

(7,583 posts)
10. I just wrote a reply to a message that showed prior to this one.
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 11:22 PM
Jul 2025

And now I'm wondering, did I screw up? If so, please accept my apology. It sure wasn't intentional. I have a gender fluid grandson, and at least one of my marching signs is always about gender/sexual equality. But geesh! Now I'm worrying I stepped on toes I'd never mean to step on.

oxymoron

(4,077 posts)
15. Yes, I'm on that thread.
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 11:56 PM
Jul 2025

Last edited Tue Jul 29, 2025, 01:33 AM - Edit history (1)

He said I alerted too much. Okay, I was a moderator a very long time ago, and I'm not sure how it works these days. I was having issues, and I thought it was either my old, shaky hands or my ad block. I alerted, I don't know, maybe three times over five minutes. It went through at least once, but I could have messed it up.

Anyway, who knows. I know you didn't offend me at all. I didn't see your post before he deleted it. I wouldn't worry about it.

Permanut

(8,138 posts)
12. 92% of pedophiles are heterosexual..
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 11:36 PM
Jul 2025

As reported by the National Institute of Health.

Of course that information will never be reported on Fox.

Permanut

(8,138 posts)
17. Roger that..
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 12:47 AM
Jul 2025

Nevertheless there are eleven heterosexual pedophiles "out there" preying on our children for every one homosexual.

The statistics are more nuanced than that, but it's clear which is the more serious threat.

Otterdaemmerung

(136 posts)
14. So many allies and well-meaning people...
Mon Jul 28, 2025, 11:55 PM
Jul 2025

...just don't know how we LGBT+ people are compared to or accused of being pedophiles constantly.

It's at the root of the book ban controversy, and often behind the massive push for homeschooling. They think that "sexuality" means sexual activity, so every LGBT+ teacher is suspect, and so is every age-appropriate curriculum that teaches about "sex ed," even if it has nothing to do with sexual activity. In reality, "sexuality" means all forms of human attraction, not just sexual.

And then there's guilt by association. They think that if we're "perverted" in even the most innocent of ways, then that means we must be more seriously perverted further down, as in being a danger of preying upon children. It's also a variation on the old trope that LGBT+ people "recruit," when nothing could be further from the truth. Personally, I had inklings I was different from as far back as I can remember, and I didn't fully realize I was gay until I was 19 and in college. Never knowing anyone else until then who was gay didn't stop me from being gay -- it only delayed my self-realization, and I wouldn't engage in any sort of same-sex sexual activity until a year and a half later. That REALLY confused my relatives: they couldn't fathom how I could know I was gay even though I'd never had sex with anyone. 32 years later, my same-sex marriage has outlasted all of theirs! Yet still, somehow, I'm the one who's persona non grata. And online, whenever I hold homophobes and transphobes to facts instead of conspiracy theories, I get accused (baselessly) of being a pedophile. They really have no idea I'm infinitely more likely to be attracted to a kid's dad than anyone who's underage or even a young adult. Simply speaking, I'm a grown man who's attracted exclusively to other grown men. The accusation is so off-target from my actual sexual preferences as to be laughable in the extreme. But I digress.

The problem is that the accusation of pedophilia against LGBT+ people has very real negative potential consequences. We need to disassociate the idea of pedophilia from legitimate sexual orientation and gender identity, because even a quasi-plausible accusation of pedophilia could cost a LGBT+ person their life or lifelihood. Scientific studies have shown that the overwhelming majority of pedophiles are heterosexual (not to put down heterosexuals).

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