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senseandsensibility

(25,515 posts)
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 04:09 PM Jul 2025

NYC Gunman Held on Psychiatric Hold in 2022 and 2023

breaking on CNN. Yet he was able to buy guns and held a concealed carry permit? He was able to bring an AR-15 across the country and murder people in a state with laws against such weapons?

Looks like the old "mental health" excuse means nothing if some states are just going to hand out access to guns like candy. WE NEED FEDERAL GUN CONTROL NOW!!!!!

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NYC Gunman Held on Psychiatric Hold in 2022 and 2023 (Original Post) senseandsensibility Jul 2025 OP
Do we know Greg_In_SF Jul 2025 #1
And whether it was legally purchased n/t SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #4
I believe his concealed carry permit expired in 2022 sarisataka Jul 2025 #2
It was issued in 2022... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #3
Thanks for that senseandsensibility Jul 2025 #12
He could have bought it yesterday in NC. yardwork Jul 2025 #5
No, he couldn't TnDem Jul 2025 #6
You do have federal gun control TnDem Jul 2025 #7
I heard that a friend purchased the lower part of the gun Renew Deal Jul 2025 #8
The "lower" TnDem Jul 2025 #9
OK Renew Deal Jul 2025 #10
That's because TnDem Jul 2025 #11

sarisataka

(22,837 posts)
2. I believe his concealed carry permit expired in 2022
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 04:14 PM
Jul 2025

And was not renewed. Perhaps his mental health issues had something to do with the permit not renewed after his psychiatric hold.

yardwork

(69,645 posts)
5. He could have bought it yesterday in NC.
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 04:22 PM
Jul 2025

We have basically zero controls over weapons now thanks to the GOP.

 

TnDem

(1,390 posts)
6. No, he couldn't
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 04:32 PM
Jul 2025

You cannot walk into a gun store with an out-of-state and buy a firearm....The 4473 is a FEDERAL form.

 

TnDem

(1,390 posts)
7. You do have federal gun control
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 04:35 PM
Jul 2025

It's called a BATFE form 4473 with NICS background check that is required when purchasing the firearm from the dealer. Taking it from Nevada to another state can be done by anyone.

Do you want checkpoints and strip searches at every state line?

Renew Deal

(85,356 posts)
8. I heard that a friend purchased the lower part of the gun
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 04:36 PM
Jul 2025

Not sure how he qualified for a concealed carry license, but it's Nevada.

 

TnDem

(1,390 posts)
9. The "lower"
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 04:46 PM
Jul 2025

The "lower part of the gun", IS the gun....The AR15 lower receiver is the serialized portion of the firearm.

All of the rest of the pieces are simple parts that you can buy on Amazon or Ebay.

Renew Deal

(85,356 posts)
10. OK
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 06:07 PM
Jul 2025

What I heard was specific to the lower. I'm not sure why they made that distinction, but maybe he got the rest of the parts somewhere else.

 

TnDem

(1,390 posts)
11. That's because
Tue Jul 29, 2025, 06:15 PM
Jul 2025

The lower is the only part that matters....The other parts are just that...parts.

If you decided today that you wanted to build your own AR15 from scratch, the lower receiver is considered the firearm. It has a serial number, requires a BATFE form 4473 to be completed with NICS background check. Most of the rest of it can be bought on Ebay or anywhere really because the rest of the "parts" are not the gun...The lower is the gun.

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