I am just not buying it

[Chicagogrl1]

That both Epstein and Virginia Giuffre committed suicide. Also, why would Epstein steal away a 17-year-old locker room attendant??? Why would tRump even be involved in employee staffing for the spa. This whole situation stinks to high heaven. Something is just not right.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

1. What exactly aren't you buying?

That both Epstein and Virginia Giuffre committed suicide.

Someone like Epstein, a narcissist without morals or ethics, has to win. He wins by killing himself. As for Virginia Giuffre, people who have been sexually abused have a higher risk of suicide. People started abusing Giuffre when she was seven, long before Epstein or Trump or Andrew Winsdor were ever in the picture.

Also, why would Epstein steal away a 17-year-old locker room attendant???

Because she fit the profile for the kind of girls Maxwell was looking for for Epstein -- troubled and someone they could manipulate.

Something is just not right.

Human trafficking will do that.

[Skittles]

2. while you state some facts

Epstein didn't "win" by offing himself so quickly - that would more likely help the rich fucks he was blackmailing, and while suicide is likely higher in abuse victims, MOST of them do not kill themselves.

[brush]

3. Giuffre yes. Epstein no as he probably thought he could still bribe his way...

out of jail as he did before.

[GoCubsGo]

6. Yes, she fit the profile.

But, I don't think Epstein "stole her away." Giuffre was homeless prior to to working at Merde a Lardo, and Trump lured her into the situation by giving her a job. From what I understand. that's how they recruited most of those girls. They were the poor, desperate locals, which made it easier to take advantage of them. Trump gave them jobs, and Maxwell and Epstein took it from there.

[Igel]

8. Apparently she had been.

When she was 13 and 14.

Her father got her the job at Mar-A-Lago. She was apparently living with him at the time.

Before returning home a couple of years pre-MAL she'd been a runaway and sex trafficked.

[dutch777]

5. There were not only 6 people involved in all this over decades. Where are all the other victims and their stories?

[malaise]

7. You know what's odd

She supposedly committed suicide on April 25, 2025 and he was informed he was on the list in May.
From CNN
When Attorney General Pam Bondi briefed President Donald Trump in May on the Justice Department’s review of the documents related to the Jeffrey Epstein case, she told him that his name appeared in the files, sources familiar with the discussion told CNN.
What date in May?

Kind of too neat.

[Chicagogrl1]

9. Exactly

[B.See]

10. The standard tactic with Trump &, Co is

throw as much s---- against the wall and see what sticks. That's it. Smoke, mirrors, and s----.

Bottom line, Trump and Epstein were two peas from the same sleazy pod.

[Javaman]

11. I said it once and I'll say it again

The orange asshole was part of Epstein operation

[Blue Full Moon]

12. There are other suicides connected