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I think the numbers are phony so I fired her (Original Post) malaise Aug 2025 OP
In a max prison wing housing MS-13 gang members. rubbersole Aug 2025 #1
FAKE NUMBERS!! bucolic_frolic Aug 2025 #2
Insane malaise Aug 2025 #7
Real simple, he is just full of himself. multigraincracker Aug 2025 #21
Except that a five year old would not be allowed to be president malaise Aug 2025 #22
Yeah, fired her for numbers that support my case to cut rates! . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2025 #3
It takes breath-taking arrogance to be the expert for every subject malaise Aug 2025 #5
The numbers hildegaard28 Aug 2025 #4
We know that malaise Aug 2025 #6
Maddow Blog-Trump responds to his failure to create jobs by firing the U.S. labor statistics chief LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #8
Thank you! JohnnyRingo Aug 2025 #25
Trumpy knows best. nt BootinUp Aug 2025 #9
Insane malaise Aug 2025 #10
He just wants to be told the shit he wants to hear. Fact-based reality is dead in this country. Karasu Aug 2025 #11
Good bye retirement funds. Buddyzbuddy Aug 2025 #12
Only Pravda Faux "news" is allowed! UTUSN Aug 2025 #13
Can't wait to see the creative bookkeeping next month Hassler Aug 2025 #14
Just ask to see his sources. multigraincracker Aug 2025 #23
We are in a dictatorship. spanone Aug 2025 #15
The people are finding out who the phony is. Emile Aug 2025 #16
He is increasingly more free-wheeling and unfettered. And the rule of law is seemingly impotent, since DOJ is his. Evolve Dammit Aug 2025 #17
TRUMP CHEATS Jimvanhise Aug 2025 #18
Every Trump accusation is a admission of guilt. Emile Aug 2025 #19
Be fun to ask him his definition of "projection". multigraincracker Aug 2025 #24
He is a criminal crud Aug 2025 #20
Republican side of Congress response on firing.... Gimpyknee Aug 2025 #26
They are why this has happened malaise Aug 2025 #30
The new commissioner of labor statistics. LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #27
Cannot admit he's wrong. Absolute Narcissistic Idiot. He'll kill us all if he isn't stopped. rickyhall Aug 2025 #28
This may be even more disturbing than Trump firing the BLS Commissioner Wiz Imp Aug 2025 #29
Yep malaise Aug 2025 #33
One temporarily good thing I found in this article Wiz Imp Aug 2025 #31
The only people that can change his mind about the firing are the Business CEO's. FloridaBlues Aug 2025 #32
He got convicted of having phony numbers .. a number of times. underpants Aug 2025 #34
Trump's Efforts to Control Information Echo an Authoritarian Playbook (NYT gift article) LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2025 #35

bucolic_frolic

(55,845 posts)
2. FAKE NUMBERS!!
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 05:11 PM
Aug 2025

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!!



But ......... we don't know the origins of the weak numbers. Other than federal firings and layoffs, AI doing the work of 10 people ... this could have legs to the downside ..........

multigraincracker

(38,058 posts)
21. Real simple, he is just full of himself.
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 07:38 PM
Aug 2025

Like any 4 year old he has to get attention. Bad behavior is the quickest way. Want really piss him off? Ignore him.

malaise

(298,027 posts)
22. Except that a five year old would not be allowed to be president
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 07:41 PM
Aug 2025

Or eff up an entire country

LetMyPeopleVote

(182,138 posts)
8. Maddow Blog-Trump responds to his failure to create jobs by firing the U.S. labor statistics chief
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 06:08 PM
Aug 2025

Confronted with evidence of his own failures, the president could've changed direction. He instead found it easier to fire his labor statistics chief.

In true authoritarian fashion, Trump, confronted by evidence of his failures, fired the labor statistics chief for telling the truth.

It’s dangerously insane to set the credibility of government stats on fire to satisfy presidential whims.

This isn’t how Americans govern; it’s how despots rule.

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-08-01T19:11:05.747Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-responds-failure-create-jobs-firing-us-labor-statistics-chief-rcna222532

Confronted with evidence of his own failure, Trump announced that he’s changing course and pursuing a more responsible economic direction.

No, I’m just kidding. He’s actually firing the commissioner of labor statistics. NBC News reported:

President Donald Trump on Friday ordered the firing of the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, hours after a stunning government report showed that hiring had slowed down significantly over the past three months. Taking to Truth Social, he attacked Erika McEntarfer, the commissioner of the BLS. He claimed that the country’s jobs reports ‘are being produced by Biden appointee’ and ordered his administration to terminate her.


......Trump, without a shred of evidence or shame, proceeded to claim that McEntarfer had secretly conspired against him during the 2024 campaign — a bizarre claim, given that the job totals in the months leading up to Election Day really weren’t great — before flubbing basic facts about Labor Department reports that anyone in an Economics 101 course would recognize as absurd.

It was at this point that Trump added, “We need accurate Jobs Numbers. I have directed my Team to fire this Biden Political Appointee, IMMEDIATELY. She will be replaced with someone much more competent and qualified. Important numbers like this must be fair and accurate, they can’t be manipulated for political purposes.”

The irony was rich.

The president concluded, “The Economy is BOOMING under ‘TRUMP,’” overlooking the inconvenient fact that Americans are dealing with sluggish growth, stubborn inflation, an anemic job market and a slumping manufacturing sector.

For now, I’m not going to dwell on the fact that McEntarfer is a respected, highly qualified career civil servant who’s done nothing wrong and who deserves better than to be fired and smeared with conspiratorial garbage.....

Trump, in true authoritarian fashion, fired the labor statistics chief for doing her job and telling the truth — which the president didn’t want to hear. He’ll now seek out someone new who’ll deliver job statistics that make him happy, knowing full well that McEntarfer’s successor must understand that failure to satisfy Trump will lead to their ouster, too.....

This isn’t how Americans govern; it’s how despots rule.

JohnnyRingo

(20,998 posts)
25. Thank you!
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 07:57 PM
Aug 2025

I've been gone all day and had no idea what this post was a about.
The OP (and others) didn't leave a link or a clue, assuming that everyone has been tuned in all day.

Karasu

(2,081 posts)
11. He just wants to be told the shit he wants to hear. Fact-based reality is dead in this country.
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 06:37 PM
Aug 2025

Evolve Dammit

(21,818 posts)
17. He is increasingly more free-wheeling and unfettered. And the rule of law is seemingly impotent, since DOJ is his.
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 07:22 PM
Aug 2025
 

Gimpyknee

(1,025 posts)
26. Republican side of Congress response on firing....
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 08:00 PM
Aug 2025

……… crickets. There’s no candidates for Profiles in Courage II from that bunch of spineless sycophants.

malaise

(298,027 posts)
30. They are why this has happened
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 08:24 PM
Aug 2025

They have abandoned their Constitutional responsibilities

rickyhall

(5,510 posts)
28. Cannot admit he's wrong. Absolute Narcissistic Idiot. He'll kill us all if he isn't stopped.
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 08:13 PM
Aug 2025

Wiz Imp

(10,437 posts)
29. This may be even more disturbing than Trump firing the BLS Commissioner
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 08:17 PM
Aug 2025

For the Secretary of Labor not to have the BLS Commissioner's back is unconscionable. She has to know Trump's allegations are total bull shit.

https://thehill.com/business/5432857-trump-fires-bls-commissioner/
Labor secretary hails Trump move to fire BLS chief

Labor Secretary Lori Chavez-DeRemer praised President Trump’s decision to fire the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) after the Friday release of the July jobs report.

In a statement on social media, Chavez-DeRemer hailed Trump’s decision to fire BLS Commissioner Erika McEntarfer after the agency, which is housed in the Labor Department, released a stunningly bad jobs report earlier Friday

“I agree wholeheartedly with @POTUS that our jobs numbers must be fair, accurate, and never manipulated for political purposes,” Chavez-DeRemer wrote without offering any evidence to support Trump’s claim.

“A recent string of major revisions have come to light and raised concerns about decisions being made by the Biden-appointed Labor Commissioner,” she continued. “I support the President’s decision to replace Biden’s Commissioner and ensure the American People can trust the important and influential data coming from BLS.”


Wiz Imp

(10,437 posts)
31. One temporarily good thing I found in this article
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 08:31 PM
Aug 2025
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/trump-orders-firing-bls-commissioner-weak-jobs-report-rcna222531
The deputy commissioner of BLS, Bill Wiatrowski, who took up the role during the Obama administration, will become the acting chief "during the search for a replacement," Labor Secretary Lori Chavez-DeRemer said.

Julie Hatch Maxfield, the official who oversees the office that produces the employment report, joined the agency during Trump's first term.


I know Bill Wiatrowski and Julie Hatch Maxfield and they are good people. The line about Julie Hatch Maxfield joining the agency during Trump's first term is blatantly false. She has actually worked at BLS since 1999. She became Associate Commissioner for the Office of Employment and Unemployment Statistics in 2019. Those Associate Commissioner jobs have always been non-political and do not require Senate Confirmation. The Commissioner job does require Senate Confirmation.

Bill and Julie may be the next to get fired, but as long as they are running things, I have confidence BLS will continue to produce honest jobs numbers.

FloridaBlues

(4,687 posts)
32. The only people that can change his mind about the firing are the Business CEO's.
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 08:34 PM
Aug 2025

They must not remain silent. I really fear for the collective us. Hold on to your money if you have it.

LetMyPeopleVote

(182,138 posts)
35. Trump's Efforts to Control Information Echo an Authoritarian Playbook (NYT gift article)
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 04:01 PM
Aug 2025

In firing the head of the agency that collects employment statistics, the president underscored his tendency to suppress facts he doesn’t like and promote his own version of reality.



Trump’s Efforts to Control Information Echo an Authoritarian Playbook www.nytimes.com/2025/08/03/u...

Jane Mayer (@janemayer.bsky.social) 2025-08-03T14:43:25.797Z

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/03/us/politics/trump-bls-jobs-facts.html?unlocked_article_code=1.bU8.uevb.5cZlTEaDzRQn&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

An old rule in Washington holds that you are entitled to your own opinions but you are not entitled to your own facts. President Trump seems determined to prove that wrong.....

The message, however, was unmistakable: Government officials who deal in data now fear they have to toe the line or risk losing their jobs. Career scientists, longtime intelligence analysts and nonpartisan statisticians who serve every president regardless of political party with neutral information on countless matters, such as weather patterns and vaccine efficacy, now face pressure as never before to conform to the alternative reality enforced by the president and his team.

Mr. Trump has never been especially wedded to facts, routinely making up his own numbers, repeating falsehoods and conspiracy theories even after they are debunked and denigrating the very concept of independent fact-checking. But his efforts since reclaiming the White House to make the rest of government adopt his versions of the truth have gone further than in his first term and increasingly remind scholars of the way authoritarian leaders in other countries have sought to control information.

“Democracy can’t realistically exist without reliable epistemic infrastructure,” said Michael Patrick Lynch, author of the recently published “On Truth in Politics” and a professor at the University of Connecticut.

“Anti-democratic, authoritarian leaders know this,” he said. “That is why they will seize every opportunity to control sources of information. As Bacon taught us, knowledge is power. But preventing or controlling access to knowledge is also power.”....

“It’s a post-factual world that Trump is looking for, and he’s got these sycophants working for him that don’t challenge him on facts,” said Barbara Comstock, a former Republican congresswoman from Virginia.

But firing the messenger, she said, will not make the economy any better. “The reality is the economy is worse, and he can’t keep saying it’s better,” she said. “Joe Biden learned that; people still experience the experience they have, no matter how much” you tell them otherwise.

We can no longer trust any numbers from the trump administration

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