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senseandsensibility

(25,543 posts)
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 05:29 PM Aug 2025

Do you agree with Peter Baker (NYT) who say that Americans will know

if the job market is bad. So basically, it doesn't matter if trump cooks the books.

The economist who's on Nicole's show with him(Ruhle is subbing for her) made the point that we need good numbers so that people can trust the information they're getting.

I think Baker is doing some of that normalizing we've been hearing about.

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Do you agree with Peter Baker (NYT) who say that Americans will know (Original Post) senseandsensibility Aug 2025 OP
I hear that our chocorations may increase next quarter BoRaGard Aug 2025 #1
Peter Baker, the writer who helped slow Trump's trials. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #2
I forgot about that senseandsensibility Aug 2025 #3
Motherfuckers act like they forgot about DRE. Kid Berwyn Aug 2025 #7
Some posters here have said the labor numbers are scrutinized by political neutrals wolfie001 Aug 2025 #4
Who cares what the NYT thinks ? Nigrum Cattus Aug 2025 #5
Peter Baker is a Trump humping access journalist piece of shit Prairie Gates Aug 2025 #6
This is a function of government full stop. bronxiteforever Aug 2025 #8
The job market has been bad depending on your line of work newdeal2 Aug 2025 #9
Of course, people always automatically know the truth. That's why schools are so unnecessary. Jim__ Aug 2025 #10
Well, when you put it like that senseandsensibility Aug 2025 #11
He's become a hack. choie Aug 2025 #12
I mean I sort of agree with him ITAL Aug 2025 #13
When Peter Baker comes on blogslug Aug 2025 #14

Kid Berwyn

(25,120 posts)
2. Peter Baker, the writer who helped slow Trump's trials.
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 05:33 PM
Aug 2025

Little fucker on his own gave the defense all it needed to delay it up to John Roberts.

At the start in 2022:

https://prospect.org/politics/altercation-how-peter-bakers-feelings-become-news/

From there it's the heights!

Kid Berwyn

(25,120 posts)
7. Motherfuckers act like they forgot about DRE.
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 05:38 PM
Aug 2025

From The American Prospect:

P.S.: I searched for Baker’s name in the long section on Trump’s presidency in my 2020 book Lying in State: Why Presidents Lie—And Why Trump Is Worse and found this: “In another front-page analysis, Times White House correspondent Peter Baker described the drama of impeachment as playing out against ‘conspiracy theories,’ which he said were ‘everywhere,’ adding that ‘conspiracy theorists are in the White House and Congress,’ though he neglected to point to a single ‘conspiracy theory’ that did not emanate from the Republican side of the aisle.”

-- Eric Alterman

https://prospect.org/politics/altercation-how-peter-bakers-feelings-become-news/

wolfie001

(7,975 posts)
4. Some posters here have said the labor numbers are scrutinized by political neutrals
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 05:35 PM
Aug 2025

I beg to differ. If tRUMP wants something done his way, he will stop at nothing to get his way. He's SHITLER!!!

Nigrum Cattus

(1,356 posts)
5. Who cares what the NYT thinks ?
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 05:35 PM
Aug 2025

Everything matters ! They are all cowards. BS stats are
BS stats ! and they are worse than useless

Prairie Gates

(8,479 posts)
6. Peter Baker is a Trump humping access journalist piece of shit
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 05:36 PM
Aug 2025

And that's all I have to say about that.

bronxiteforever

(11,212 posts)
8. This is a function of government full stop.
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 05:42 PM
Aug 2025

There is no good reason to lie to the American public. Americans are busy working their ass off for the billionaire class and they are entitled to know the fucking truth about the economy.

newdeal2

(5,622 posts)
9. The job market has been bad depending on your line of work
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 05:45 PM
Aug 2025

People are not leaving their jobs anymore, so there’s no openings and it’s an employer’s market.

Jim__

(15,280 posts)
10. Of course, people always automatically know the truth. That's why schools are so unnecessary.
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 06:18 PM
Aug 2025

Yes,

ITAL

(1,382 posts)
13. I mean I sort of agree with him
Fri Aug 1, 2025, 07:34 PM
Aug 2025

If you, or people you know, are out of work and have a tough time finding a job, you're gonna think the market is bad even if the official numbers might be good. A lot of economics of kind of "feels" more than reality - otherwise Biden would have been much more popular.

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