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CTyankee

(68,511 posts)
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 02:46 PM Aug 2025

I'm very scared that we can't stop this madman.

So far, Trump holds all the cards. I see little, if any, real resistance from "more sensible" republicans. And even if more join them, how can they stop him, and will it be too late by the time they "catch on" or have enough?

Right now I am just

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I'm very scared that we can't stop this madman. (Original Post) CTyankee Aug 2025 OP
We can't especially if the opposition party and leaders are not making much more noise Eliot Rosewater Aug 2025 #1
I agree we need a strong leader fearless Tree Lady Aug 2025 #10
That's probably part of it, the media has given up representing what's actually happening Eliot Rosewater Aug 2025 #12
Exactly and now they are closing Tree Lady Aug 2025 #16
2024 Young men (18-29) voted majority Trump (56%) speak easy Aug 2025 #28
Then maybe this isn't my country anymore although I think the election was rigged Eliot Rosewater Aug 2025 #40
... in another development college educated White women voted Harris 57% speak easy Aug 2025 #54
It's not stupid. Why should the young follow LuvLoogie Aug 2025 #29
I'm a geezer and I AGREE Skittles Aug 2025 #69
I'm with ya... GiqueCee Aug 2025 #74
I have to say Skittles Aug 2025 #82
We can hope Satan will call him home soon. Ocelot II Aug 2025 #2
How can we not see that we need someone like AOC and others Eliot Rosewater Aug 2025 #4
Young people do seem to be taking notice TommyT139 Aug 2025 #6
Nothing is stopping them from leading. RandomNumbers Aug 2025 #17
No to AOC. murielm99 Aug 2025 #19
Louder leadership is good. In fact, it is not only good it is the only thing that will save us. CTyankee Aug 2025 #25
If AOC were in charge, people would turn on her the same way they do all our other Democratic leaders... W_HAMILTON Aug 2025 #41
AOC is not in charge quakerboy Aug 2025 #83
It needs to be the entire hydra. TommyT139 Aug 2025 #5
Doubtful that Satan wants anything to do with that scumbag. Dave Bowman Aug 2025 #77
We need to both select and start heavily marketing Melon Aug 2025 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Aug 2025 #15
It appears American democracy was far more fragile than most of us believed. Jim__ Aug 2025 #7
Most are either brainwashed or Tree Lady Aug 2025 #13
The founders never imagined one branch, much less two, would concede their power. - nt CrispyQ Aug 2025 #60
The founders never imagined the kind of telecommunications we have misanthrope Aug 2025 #65
I can't believe there is no one.. MiHale Aug 2025 #8
Americans have become cowards DSandra Aug 2025 #67
That was clear to me on 1/20 BannonsLiver Aug 2025 #9
Then comes catastrophic climate change Kaleva Aug 2025 #11
Here is a site to explain how close we are to Climate Collapse Nigrum Cattus Aug 2025 #26
That's a great website. markodochartaigh Aug 2025 #43
Thanks! Kaleva Aug 2025 #62
You don't stop him. You ride out the storm. bucolic_frolic Aug 2025 #14
Hunker down till midterms, meanwhile ... BlueWavePsych Aug 2025 #50
we already stopped him once, in 2020 cadoman Aug 2025 #80
I'm with you there iemanja Aug 2025 #18
What worries me Greg_In_SF Aug 2025 #20
The Democratic Party is in the 30s? Eliot Rosewater Aug 2025 #23
Yep Greg_In_SF Aug 2025 #24
Repukes have kissed the rings or kept their mouths shut sakabatou Aug 2025 #21
Our only hope... surfered Aug 2025 #22
I have no answers. hamsterjill Aug 2025 #27
You are right to be scared... Christian255 Aug 2025 #30
Boycott FIFA 2026 BlueWavePsych Aug 2025 #51
IT'S THE ENTIRE GOP: Chasstev365 Aug 2025 #31
Oh, "we" can stop him. malthaussen Aug 2025 #32
It's already too late bif Aug 2025 #33
The Republican Party and all their funders need to be gone. tRump, like bush, Reagan, etc. is just a pustule on diane in sf Aug 2025 #34
They knew what they were doing. markodochartaigh Aug 2025 #46
All things come to an end EnergizedLib Aug 2025 #35
Most, probably all, Republicans fear him, too. blm Aug 2025 #36
Until people occupy the streets and shut this country down, nothing will happen. 58Sunliner Aug 2025 #37
Seriously! Right now our only hope is the Big Macs. Initech Aug 2025 #38
You know what? I feel exactly like you. Sad day in America when ALL our (GOOD) generals and (GOOD) lawyers bluestarone Aug 2025 #61
Our system of government and laws is essentially a "gentleman's agreement". mn9driver Aug 2025 #39
and we all know the orange piece of shit is no gawd damn gentleman. a kennedy Aug 2025 #48
I can't rec this post enough. Boomerproud Aug 2025 #49
His recent "guidelines" so to speak for moniss Aug 2025 #42
How can anyone w/ brains enough to become (R) congressperson MasonDreams Aug 2025 #44
We've been here before... sop Aug 2025 #45
I have no problem criticizing Democrats when it's warranted but Buddyzbuddy Aug 2025 #47
We can, the resistance will spread... then it'll be everywhere uponit7771 Aug 2025 #52
Indivisible. One Million Rising. Join a group. Indivisible.org Amaryllis Aug 2025 #72
We Must stand up!!! At the very least we cannot be scared to show the proof of theft when found Iwasthere Aug 2025 #53
Think about how you felt on No Kings day. We need that again, and more. scipan Aug 2025 #55
One Million Rising is the next step. Indivisible.org Amaryllis Aug 2025 #73
Republicans will start breaking with 47 when... pat_k Aug 2025 #56
They will turn from 47 when that is the path to greatest power misanthrope Aug 2025 #66
Bookmarking for a later reply. yellow dahlia Aug 2025 #57
Here's how it's done.... Blue Owl Aug 2025 #58
He's probably called Bukele already. moondust Aug 2025 #59
Feeling this way tonight too berniesandersmittens Aug 2025 #63
I Hear you! I go through bits of this off and on! Also know sometimes things come out of left field as they say.... electric_blue68 Aug 2025 #64
The party had four years to prepare for a return of Trump, and it blew it DSandra Aug 2025 #68
No I think the democrats fought hard. The media white washed trump and attacked President Biden and mucifer Aug 2025 #71
I completely agree, and I saw it coming when Biden was clearly indicating that he believed in... Ol Janx Spirit Aug 2025 #75
Sign up for One Million Rising and join an Indivisible group. It makes all the difference if you are in community with Amaryllis Aug 2025 #70
Sensible Repuglican? Where? mdbl Aug 2025 #76
A few examples that keep me going: Yesterday at the KitFox Aug 2025 #78
Resistance takes participation. Awhile back the were posts about spending boycotts. Hotler Aug 2025 #79
He'll cost the plutocrats a lot of money and worse, inconvenience them Warpy Aug 2025 #81

Eliot Rosewater

(34,296 posts)
1. We can't especially if the opposition party and leaders are not making much more noise
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 02:53 PM
Aug 2025

And one big reason why that’s a problem is young voters don’t vote anyway and they don’t see anything coming from anywhere that gives them any reason to I guess, I mean it’s stupid I’m just saying that’s how they think.

I am an unconditional supporter of the party and any candidate in any election for the obvious reason, but I am criticizing them now, no I don’t have answers but I’ll admit I wish someone like AOC was minority leader in the Senate.

Tree Lady

(13,387 posts)
10. I agree we need a strong leader fearless
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 03:23 PM
Aug 2025

To guide us through these perilous times. AOC would help the young but even she is not standing out in full charge mode.
Or maybe she is and because we have such bad reporting our efforts to stand up won't be noticed.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,296 posts)
12. That's probably part of it, the media has given up representing what's actually happening
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 03:25 PM
Aug 2025

They all serve the piece of shit now.

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
28. 2024 Young men (18-29) voted majority Trump (56%)
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 04:37 PM
Aug 2025

There's a reason why Trump always opened with the YMCA -

Young man, there's no need to feel down
I said, young man, pick yourself off the ground
I said, young man, 'cause your in a new town
There's no need to be unhappy ...

Young man, Are you listening to me
I said, young man, what do you want to be
I said, young man, you can make real your dreams,
but you've got to know this one thing.

No man, does it all by himself
I said, young man, put your pride on the shelf ...
(and vote. for me.)

Eliot Rosewater

(34,296 posts)
40. Then maybe this isn't my country anymore although I think the election was rigged
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 05:27 PM
Aug 2025

Go to YouTube and type in Christopher Titus rigged. There are three parts, please watch everybody watch.

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
54. ... in another development college educated White women voted Harris 57%
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 06:47 PM
Aug 2025

and college educated white men voted Harris 48% - both the highest number on record, although there are only three years of this polling: 2016, 2020, and 2024.

LuvLoogie

(8,934 posts)
29. It's not stupid. Why should the young follow
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 04:38 PM
Aug 2025

"leaders" who don't/won't/can't lead?

What is stupid is a caucus who negates the young and will not bother to figure out how to appeal to them, let alone put in the time or presence.

It's like Congressman is a desk job and that's it.



Skittles

(172,980 posts)
69. I'm a geezer and I AGREE
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 03:49 AM
Aug 2025

I don't think Dems are doing enough to appeal to young folk - the episode regarding Connolly was ridiculous, for example.

GiqueCee

(4,790 posts)
74. I'm with ya...
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 11:36 AM
Aug 2025

... at 78, and fed up to the teeth with self-centered old farts who want to keep their arthritic claws around the reins of power, muttering, "Fuck posterity! What have they ever done for ME?"

Skittles

(172,980 posts)
82. I have to say
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 05:11 PM
Aug 2025

in ANY OTHER line of work with the "results" Dems have been getting lately, there would be a HUGE shake-up......I'm with you, I am SICK of people who cannot let go of power - PASS THE BATON AREADY

Eliot Rosewater

(34,296 posts)
4. How can we not see that we need someone like AOC and others
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 03:03 PM
Aug 2025

In leadership and right now because we are out of time, we are not short of time, we are out of time.

I am an unconditional supporter of this party but there must be louder leadership that speaks to young people to get them to vote etc.

I was not a supporter of hers at first, I didn’t know that much about her, but I am now and the others in her circle.

TommyT139

(2,432 posts)
6. Young people do seem to be taking notice
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 03:11 PM
Aug 2025

...although I think a big educational push must happen -- to overcome voter disenfranchisement, all the way to follow through, ie., actually voting, ideally on the day polls are open.

murielm99

(33,097 posts)
19. No to AOC.
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 03:40 PM
Aug 2025

We need more people like Newsom, people who do work rather than flitting around the country and grandstanding.

CTyankee

(68,511 posts)
25. Louder leadership is good. In fact, it is not only good it is the only thing that will save us.
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 04:21 PM
Aug 2025

W_HAMILTON

(10,440 posts)
41. If AOC were in charge, people would turn on her the same way they do all our other Democratic leaders...
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 05:40 PM
Aug 2025

...once they realize that she, too, has no magic wand to wave and make everything better.

TommyT139

(2,432 posts)
5. It needs to be the entire hydra.
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 03:06 PM
Aug 2025

One rotten fish head isn't enough -- indeed, some of them must be planning for the day they take over and say, "gee, aren't we all glad that guy's gone?" And then they never leave.

Has there yet been a relatively peaceful return to democracy? Brazil seems to be doing ok, but they took steps we didn't, nipping it in the poisonous bud.

Melon

(1,744 posts)
3. We need to both select and start heavily marketing
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 03:03 PM
Aug 2025

Our next president. Let’s get the best to the top for selection.

Response to Melon (Reply #3)

Jim__

(15,282 posts)
7. It appears American democracy was far more fragile than most of us believed.
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 03:15 PM
Aug 2025

To stop him, I believe we need a large number of MAGAts to wake up.

CrispyQ

(41,115 posts)
60. The founders never imagined one branch, much less two, would concede their power. - nt
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 08:35 PM
Aug 2025

SMDH

misanthrope

(9,638 posts)
65. The founders never imagined the kind of telecommunications we have
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 02:05 AM
Aug 2025

that allow for tantamount mass hypnosis and control.

MiHale

(13,189 posts)
8. I can't believe there is no one..
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 03:17 PM
Aug 2025

Who isn’t afraid of that blowhard…bring him by ..I have nothing to lose…I’d love to kick his blubbery ass. Tell the secret service to stay home.

Who here isn’t afraid to ask him what his problem is.

DSandra

(1,726 posts)
67. Americans have become cowards
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 02:30 AM
Aug 2025

Older generations would be ashamed of what we've become.

BannonsLiver

(20,869 posts)
9. That was clear to me on 1/20
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 03:18 PM
Aug 2025

When you have no real hard power those in power tend to get what they want.

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
43. That's a great website.
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 05:53 PM
Aug 2025

I learned about it from the old Robert Scribbler blog a couple of decades ago.

bucolic_frolic

(55,894 posts)
14. You don't stop him. You ride out the storm.
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 03:25 PM
Aug 2025

There is no opposition. There is only resistance. Humanity will survive in the long run. But we're in for a world where Trump owns everything!

 

cadoman

(1,617 posts)
80. we already stopped him once, in 2020
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 02:18 PM
Aug 2025

The defeatism on this board boggles my mind, so let me repeat it:

We already stopped him once.

Stop getting your heads down like this is impossible. Stop turning your backs on women and Black candidates. Repukes presidents come and go. Shit happens. If we won 100% of the races we'd be the de-facto party and there would be no need for this board because political consensus was reached.

Stiffen your backs folks, if not for yourselves then for the little ones in your life that can't protect themselves from Krasnov and need someone to look up to.

Eliot Rosewater

(34,296 posts)
23. The Democratic Party is in the 30s?
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 04:18 PM
Aug 2025

I can’t believe anybody is watching what’s going on and saying “no problem we’re doing fine the party’s doing fine.”

We aren’t fine, drastic action is needed now!

 

Greg_In_SF

(1,312 posts)
24. Yep
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 04:20 PM
Aug 2025

33 - 34%. Apparently our lowest approval rating since the early 1990's. Don't understand it.

sakabatou

(46,391 posts)
21. Repukes have kissed the rings or kept their mouths shut
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 03:55 PM
Aug 2025

All they care about is holding onto their power, not their constituents.

hamsterjill

(17,776 posts)
27. I have no answers.
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 04:29 PM
Aug 2025

Just wanted you to know that I feel the same way you do. I can't believe that no one seems to be able to stop this madness. What will it ever take?

I stay furious at the Democrats sometimes, too. Merrick Garland should have been more assertive, as should Leticia James. Biden should have added to the Supreme Court.

I am over and done with anyone telling me "aw, that won't happen". All of the bad, the loss, the unthinkable is happening right in front of our very eyes. There is nothing off limits it seems. The whole MAGA movement jerk off to suffering. Look at Stephen Miller. Can anyone not see his picture and sense that he is deviant and loves to hurt people? They are all the same way.

Christian255

(23 posts)
30. You are right to be scared...
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 04:39 PM
Aug 2025

we're watching systematic institutional capture - Republicans aren't going to save us because they actively enabled this with $5 trillion in funding and voted 344-79 to kill oversight of unauthorized military strikes. The "sensible Republican" fantasy died when they passed Trump's authoritarian infrastructure bill and celebrated defying federal court orders.

Traditional resistance mechanisms are gone. Courts get openly ignored, Congress is complicit, and career federal workers are being systematically purged. We implemented 40% of Project 2025 in just 100 days because the speed prevented normal democratic responses from forming.

But here's what we actually have: economic leverage through the oligarchs' own weakness. These billionaires depend entirely on mass consumption of sports and entertainment to maintain their power and wealth. The research shows they're running massive monopolistic operations that collapse when people stop participating.
And the timing is perfect - FIFA World Cup 2026 and the Olympics are coming right when the regime needs legitimacy most. Trump already established a "White House Task Force on the FIFA World Cup 2026" to use it as propaganda. But massive international boycotts of these events would crater tourism revenue, create global embarrassment during peak visibility, force corporate sponsors to choose sides, and demonstrate that America has become a pariah state.

The beauty is that FIFA and Olympics depend entirely on viewership and attendance. Empty stadiums broadcast globally would be the most powerful visual demonstration that American democracy is dead and the world has noticed. When South Africa had apartheid, international sports boycotts were devastating to their economy and global standing.

This is economic warfare using their own playbook - hitting billionaire oligarchs where it hurts most while creating maximum international pressure for regime change. It's completely legal, peaceful resistance that ordinary people can execute without needing captured institutions.

Your fear isn't irrational - it's accurate threat assessment. But channeling that into strategic economic pressure through sports and entertainment boycotts could be the resistance vector that actually works

Chasstev365

(8,165 posts)
31. IT'S THE ENTIRE GOP:
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 04:41 PM
Aug 2025

It is they who have allowed all of it! THIS needs to be the main message for the 2026 midterm!

Make them own EVERYTHING; from Epstein to the Big Turd of a Bill to letting Trump off for January 6th.

All they want is power and money, and they don't care how they get it!

malthaussen

(18,632 posts)
32. Oh, "we" can stop him.
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 04:44 PM
Aug 2025

It may require some greater or lesser degree of violence, but he can be stopped.

-- Mal

diane in sf

(4,254 posts)
34. The Republican Party and all their funders need to be gone. tRump, like bush, Reagan, etc. is just a pustule on
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 05:01 PM
Aug 2025

top of a mountain of corruption. What kind of party would even let someone like tRump near their nomination process?!?

markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
46. They knew what they were doing.
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 06:01 PM
Aug 2025

In 2015 the Republicans were going to have a brokered convention to choose another candidate, but they realized that because Trump was so wildly popular among the 80% of their base who are authoritarians they could not win without him. Even then some senior Republicans, Bush, Cheney, Romney, refused to support Trump, which was very unusual. They knew that putting an authoritarian Strong Leader who was not committed to democracy as their candidate put democracy itself in danger. But most Republicans were ok with putting party before country if that is what it took to give them power.

EnergizedLib

(3,156 posts)
35. All things come to an end
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 05:05 PM
Aug 2025

They just sometimes take an agonizingly long time for them to happen.

58Sunliner

(6,422 posts)
37. Until people occupy the streets and shut this country down, nothing will happen.
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 05:18 PM
Aug 2025

Except the continued erosion of our rights and this country.

Initech

(109,312 posts)
38. Seriously! Right now our only hope is the Big Macs.
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 05:18 PM
Aug 2025

But then we may be stuck with shithead Vance for eternity.

bluestarone

(22,467 posts)
61. You know what? I feel exactly like you. Sad day in America when ALL our (GOOD) generals and (GOOD) lawyers
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 08:47 PM
Aug 2025

cannot do ANYTHING to stop this MONSTER. Like you said, our country's Democracy is folding like a pretzel, and seems like our greatest weapon that i can think of are BIG MACS!! What a shame.

mn9driver

(4,859 posts)
39. Our system of government and laws is essentially a "gentleman's agreement".
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 05:24 PM
Aug 2025

At the highest levels, there is nothing to force Congress or the judiciary to do the right thing. It is all based on things like “decency”, “the common good”, or “doing the right thing”.

None of that exists anymore, if it ever did. There is nothing to stop what is happening. So it’s going to happen.

a kennedy

(36,378 posts)
48. and we all know the orange piece of shit is no gawd damn gentleman.
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 06:09 PM
Aug 2025

🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

moniss

(9,165 posts)
42. His recent "guidelines" so to speak for
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 05:42 PM
Aug 2025

removing the citizenship of people should be more of a huge eye-opener for people than it seems to be getting attention. Especially with the DOJ being comfortable with lying to judges and failing to comply with decisions etc. Those revocation guidelines include existing US citizens. No stopping them because the SC can make any decision it wants but it doesn't have any enforcement authority.

As I said from the beginning we may very well come down to needing the military to step in. That scenario brings up a very real possibility of confrontation between the Secret Service, because they are sworn to protect him, and the military etc. What happens if the branches of the military don't hold a unified view of what to do? Could there be confrontation between them?

His recent actions of the last few days are a big escalation on the scale of wanton corrupt behavior. It is rational to be worried and it is irrational to think it will somehow "be O.K." because the courts/others will stop him. There's only two ways a madman ends. One is by self destructing and the other is if they are removed. It's a pattern we have seen over and over again around the world.

MasonDreams

(778 posts)
44. How can anyone w/ brains enough to become (R) congressperson
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 05:55 PM
Aug 2025

Sleep, put on a suit, go to work & rubber stamp a psycho con man who steals from his childrens cancer charity???
Especially when his agenda increasingly mimics wild destructive delusional chaos combined with the Third Reich?

Buddyzbuddy

(2,928 posts)
47. I have no problem criticizing Democrats when it's warranted but
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 06:06 PM
Aug 2025

asking why Congress's polls are down isn't helping. It exacerbates the situation. We failed them, somehow. We didn't vote. They need to change tactics. All Republicans are the enemy, until they're not. Especially in the Senate, they're not your friend from across the aisle. They smile in your face while stabbing you in the back. We wouldn't have the SC situation now if fights were fought harder back then. It's too late to write letters demanding anything. You don't have the power and that's our fault.
No matter who the party leaders are, they are going to get the blame but when you're back in power, don't be nice, make new rules, take out the trash.

The Felon has no shame but some of those feckless Republicans might still remember what integrity felt like, shame the f.ck out of them. Don't give them a shoulder to cry on. Shun them. Any Dem that doesn't row with the rest should be on that list as well. Stop talking just to hear yourself. Don't fake passion. It looks worse. Support those that are passionate and genuinely angry in their delivery. Does anybody question Bernie's sincerity?

Anyway, just a few thoughts.

Iwasthere

(3,513 posts)
53. We Must stand up!!! At the very least we cannot be scared to show the proof of theft when found
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 06:39 PM
Aug 2025

The areas in NY that had zero votes for Harris for instance. And you know he didn't swing all those swing states. Most in here refuse to go there anymore. They knew we'd lay down. Everything is at stake. WE MUST FIGHT!!!! There's a former fbi employee that has proof but I cannot post it here. I get reported when I do.

pat_k

(13,905 posts)
56. Republicans will start breaking with 47 when...
Sat Aug 2, 2025, 07:43 PM
Aug 2025

...47's approval among their constituents drops below 50% (they may break before that point, but a break is almost guaranteed at 50%).

And it isn't just the overall approval rating that matters. When 47's approval on a specific issue drops below 50% among the incumbent's voters, they could break with 47 on that issue so they can distance themselves from it in campaign season.

When that point is hit depends on the make up of the district or state. I haven't seen any such analyses, but I am guessing that Republican members of the House and Senate who need strong support among Independents for re-election are starting to get very, very nervous given how 47's support has crumbled with those voters.

It's 47's approval among Republicans that gives him the power to bully -- the power to "turn those people against" the person who breaks ranks. Right now, approval among Republicans remains high, but if (and I believe it is more of a when) that starts trending down, 47's power to keep them in line will diminish, big time. If those people are turning against 47 in response to the horror show, it really depends on what the incumbent bets will lose them the most votes: 47's anger or a continued connection with a 47 regime action that is deeply unpopular.

An earlier post on where the numbers are:

47 crumbling with Independents. Encouraging numbers across the board.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220515356

misanthrope

(9,638 posts)
66. They will turn from 47 when that is the path to greatest power
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 02:20 AM
Aug 2025

The equation is that simple. Politicos are essentially easy to see through.

berniesandersmittens

(13,211 posts)
63. Feeling this way tonight too
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 01:08 AM
Aug 2025

The Pedofelon and his Pedominions are attacking our democracy every.freaking.day
.

There ain't no rest for the wicked.

electric_blue68

(27,369 posts)
64. I Hear you! I go through bits of this off and on! Also know sometimes things come out of left field as they say....
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 01:50 AM
Aug 2025

Politically, or other social events wise.

His father may have lived quite long, but his father didn't scarf down Big Macs, and fries like he does. So.....


.We ",just" gotta hang in there!

DSandra

(1,726 posts)
68. The party had four years to prepare for a return of Trump, and it blew it
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 02:35 AM
Aug 2025

It was stupid to rely on Merrick Garland to prosecute Trump. The whole of Washington also had four years to prepare for Trump, and Trump and his minions still came in and strongarmed it.

The whole party needs to read Sun Tzu and other books on military strategy. The whole party needs to spend a lot of time learning about strategy and tactics. Hire a bunch of psychology and marketing experts. This is totally embarassing for the party to be caught soo flat footed. It tells other voters that Democrats are so embarassingly weak and can't protect the nation.

mucifer

(25,733 posts)
71. No I think the democrats fought hard. The media white washed trump and attacked President Biden and
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 09:21 AM
Aug 2025

there was a whole lot of online bots brainwashing people. And we still might have actually won.

Ol Janx Spirit

(1,080 posts)
75. I completely agree, and I saw it coming when Biden was clearly indicating that he believed in...
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 12:21 PM
Aug 2025

...the institutions of government to deal with Trump and Trumpism--the very same institutions that they had completely shredded leading to January 6th.

We got bipartisan sternly-worded letters from congress and that's really about it.

And it does not seem Democrats have really figured out a better strategy yet.

It's hard to imagine that you could be handed a bigger political gift than your opponent inciting a riot at the capitol building--including destruction, smearing of feces, and the carrying of Confederate flags--and do so little with that fact that the same opponent would be elected again.... I'm sure Biden and a lot of the people around him believed that fact would be enough, but in the horror movie we lived through with Trump 1.0, they should have known that you do not ever assume the bad guy is not going to walk out of the flames to attack you again. By the summer of 2021 I felt like Jason was still very much alive.

Amaryllis

(11,434 posts)
70. Sign up for One Million Rising and join an Indivisible group. It makes all the difference if you are in community with
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 09:17 AM
Aug 2025

others taking action and fighting. You don't have to be alone and scared.
Indivisible.org

KitFox

(598 posts)
78. A few examples that keep me going: Yesterday at the
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 01:20 PM
Aug 2025

Rage Against Regime protest, I arrived early to set up for playing music and there was an elderly couple already set up on their walkers with their signs right on the curb. When we were packing up our stuff 4 hours later, and almost everyone had gone, they remained waving their signs. A young guy on a bicycle rode up and asked me if he could borrow my sign. He took it and went over and stood with them waving at the traffic passing and honking their support. We left when the little couple finally left. At the Good Trouble protest, I saw a tiny, very elderly woman with her walker slowly inching along with the sign on her walker saying “Don’t give up- courage can be found in unusual places”. In February I attended an immigrants’ rights rally that was organized and publicized by a high school girl. At one point, traffic was backed up. A guy with a Trump flag on his jacked up truck started revving his engine and shouting racial slurs. A guy in the car behind him got out and walked up to his window and yelled, “If you disagree, why don’t you go organize your own rally and quit being such a fucking dick.” The guy rolled up his window and did nothing more than give the finger and the crowd cheered and cheered as the other guy walked back to his car and traffic slowly started again. If you aren’t able to get out to protests, watch footage of them online. Doesn’t make my worry and fear go away, but helps me keep on insisting, resisting, persisting. 🩷

Hotler

(13,747 posts)
79. Resistance takes participation. Awhile back the were posts about spending boycotts.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 02:15 PM
Aug 2025

Something as simple as not spending your consumer dollar seemed to be to much effort, or was called a stupid idea..
It also doesn't help that we have members in the House and Senate that vote alone side of the fascist. I find no common ground between democracy and fascism. We truly lack real leadership on the Hill.

Not a single person that has taken the oath of office or military oath has called the orange convict a domestic enemy and call for his immediate arrest. So what if it doesn't stick, hammer him with it to really piss the fascist off.

Warpy

(114,695 posts)
81. He'll cost the plutocrats a lot of money and worse, inconvenience them
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 02:25 PM
Aug 2025

When those old boys have had enough, they'll make sure he's removed.

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