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edhopper

(36,946 posts)
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 09:02 AM Aug 2025

Did Epstein kill himself? Poll

Last edited Sun Aug 3, 2025, 09:59 AM - Edit history (1)

I wanted to get a sense of the thinking on this here on DU.


85 votes, 1 pass | Time left: Unlimited
Yes, it was suicide
8 (9%)
No, he was flat out murdered
73 (86%)
No opinion, not enough info
4 (5%)
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GoCubsGo

(34,600 posts)
2. No. They snuck him out of prison alive.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 09:15 AM
Aug 2025

He's either hiding on his island, or in some friendly Middle Eastern country, like Qatar or Dubai.

Celerity

(53,333 posts)
3. I simply do not have enough evidence either way to make that call. I lean towards murder, but have no conclusive proof.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 09:15 AM
Aug 2025

David__77

(24,500 posts)
5. I don't know. It seems like there's a potent anti-Trump weapon in this issue, if anyone cares to wield it effectively.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 09:29 AM
Aug 2025

MineralMan

(150,423 posts)
10. Sure, but opinions without facts are pretty useless, it seems to me.
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 10:03 AM
Aug 2025

So, I guess it doesn't matter to me how Epstein died. He's dead. That's good enough for me. I have no opinion about that at all.

Blue Owl

(58,049 posts)
11. Investigate the "mysterious orange blob" seen on the prison camera network
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 10:27 AM
Aug 2025

I mean, does it get any more symbolic…..

AZJonnie

(2,510 posts)
13. The theory that someone pulled off a murder in the federal jail w/o leaving a single trace
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 10:44 AM
Aug 2025

or witness aside from like one particular broken bone that is not always seen in suicide by hanging, and did it perfectly enough to fool the chief medical examiner of NYC and DoJ IG both, seems like a somewhat fanciful one to me, more in the realm of super-spy movies than real-life.

Add to that the fact that it happened less than 24 hours after the Guiffre/Maxwell court documents dropped like a bombshell in the media and very strongly damaged any case he may have thought he had (iow providing a clear motivation for him) leads me to think it's def. more likely he offed himself.

That said I still think there's some chance that it was purposefully 'made easier for him to do' in some kind of small-scale conspiracy. This covers some of the sketchiness people point to when they list their reasons why they presume he was murdered w/o requiring a big cover-up and perfect execution of an elaborate and highly illegal scheme

haele

(14,968 posts)
14. Could be...missing minute (or three) on his cell tape makes
Sun Aug 3, 2025, 11:11 AM
Aug 2025

difficult to determine 100%.

In order, given the little evidence and circumstances we have, this is what I think.
1. Murder
2.Suicide
3. Assisted suicide
4. Ken Lay "fake death" and getaway with all sorts of fake reports.

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