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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf you heard your 17 yr old daughter's boss talk about her like this, what would you think?
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https://youtube.com/shorts/wqPi0o1T1mg?si=C56F2xG6A3YoJtdY
This article is from 2017
A newly uncovered video of Donald Trump from before he was president shows the former businessman bragging about hiring a teenage waitress just because she was so pretty.
In the footage unearthed by NowThis, Trump is shown lecturing at a seminar, where a woman in the audience asks him how many jets he owns and how she can apply to be his flight attendant.
Trump invites the woman to join him onstage and as she makes her way toward him to the sound of catcalls he says, I think shes hired.
Trump then embraces the woman, puts his arm around her waist and tells her, Youre hired.
With the woman still by his side, Trump launches into a story about the teenage waitress he hired for her looks.
You know, I had a case, it was very interesting. A beautiful girl, who was 17 or 18, applied to be a waitress, Trump said. Shes so beautiful, shes like a world-class beauty. And my people came and she said, Mr. Trump, she has no experience. So I interviewed her anyway because she was so pretty. And I said, Let me ask you, do you have any experience? She goes, No, sir. I said, When can you start?
After concluding the story, Trump kisses the woman from the audience on the cheek and promises that she can work on [his] plane anytime.
Trump tells the crowd that if the woman actually worked on his plane it would be like a death wish for him, and goes on to equate his feelings about women to alcohol addiction. This would be my form of alcoholism, he said.
https://people.com/politics/donald-trump-teenage-waitress-beautiful-video/
malaise
(298,091 posts)does him in. Hes on tape all over the place😀
littlemissmartypants
(34,404 posts)sop
(19,370 posts)True confession
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220536614
Irish_Dem
(82,411 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)The monetary profit and gain? The power trips? (Just to be clear, Ghislaine was also up to her neck in this profitable enterprise)
No?
Then what weve got is a crime ring of psychopaths, none of whom stopped until they were made to stop via prison or death or both. Since Trump is neither in prison nor dead, guess what I still think hes up to when opportunity knocks.
Theyre not sex addicts. They are psychopaths who get off on hurting children and women.
Irish_Dem
(82,411 posts)But the way they talk, there is an addictive quality to their rapes.
They get a high on the brutality and cruelty.
People can have more than one pathology and Trump is a complex set of insanities.
I am a retired mental health clinician and my job was to identify and diagnose all the
pathologies present. And none of it is an excuse, they are explanations.
William Gustafson
(557 posts)Irish_Dem
(82,411 posts)That is very obvious.
But also obviously they were much more than pimps.
They are sadistic cruel psychopaths.
yardwork
(69,676 posts)Ghislaine was responsible for supplying him with young girls. He required his staff to provide fresh towels, new razors, new lotions, etc. All day long his staff was changing out the supplies while Ghislaine delivered young girls to him.
It's one reason I think it's plausible that Epstein really did kill himself. A man like that, who was used to complete control over his environment, used to being supplied with rape victims all day long, possibly OCD about fresh supplies - living in prison must have been hell for him. It's possible he paid the guards to look the other way.
Irish_Dem
(82,411 posts)Narcissists and psychopaths are not usually suicidal
But if they are backed into a corner and face consequences for their crimes it is a possibility.
Especially in the case of Epstein for the reasons you cite.
I also assume he was heavy into drugs
And was not getting his usual supply.
yardwork
(69,676 posts)Supposedly Bill Barr visited Epstein in prison. Trump loves gangster movies. I can imagine a Godfather II scenario where Barr says, "Look, Jeffrey. We don't want this to go to trial. We're not going to give you any breaks. You're going to sit here in this miserable hole for the rest of your life. But I'll arrange to pay the guards to look the other way. This is the best solution."
In fact, there's a scene in the Silence of the Lambs where Hannibal Lecter talks another prisoner into killing himself. Maybe that's why Trump talks about Lecter all the time.
Normally I'd think this was all far-fetched but we're talking about Trump. He loves drama.
Irish_Dem
(82,411 posts)This is my top theory.
yardwork
(69,676 posts)In Godfather II the gangster is promised that his family will be cared for.
Trump would enjoy offering nothing in return. He likes that.
Irish_Dem
(82,411 posts)Would never keep the promise.
Like protecting Maxwell
And then sending her to prison.
dhol82
(9,661 posts)From something I read earlier today, he was employed at MaraLago and got the spa job for his daughter.
Did he know anything? Cant believe he would traffic his own daughter.
We had one arrested recently who was pimping his barely teenage daughter and step daughter to taxi men.
tulipsandroses
(8,301 posts)Roberts has said she was either 15 or 16 when she sat outside the Mar-a-Lago locker room outdoors in the summer of 2000 as she looked at the first book she'd ever read about massage therapy.
Virginia Roberts was working to get her general equivalency diploma after having attended four high schools in Palm Beach County, including Royal Palm Beach, Wellington and Forest Hill, according to her school transcript included in court documents. And she'd just come back home after running away from foster care and being held by Miami sex predator Ron Eppinger until he was arrested.
Her father, Sky Roberts, who worked maintenance at the estate, has testified that he had helped her get a job there. He hoped for better things for his daughter. Sky Roberts testified that when his daughter brought it up, he said, "Well that's great, you know, because learning new jobs is all about life."
Roberts' father gave her a ride to El Brillo Way between 4 and 5 p.m. that day after she finished work. He said Epstein came out of the house to speak with him. "He was very cordial, very nice," Sky Roberts said. He was never invited into nor did he go into Epstein's home.
https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/trump/2025/08/04/virginia-giuffre-met-ghislaine-maxwell-mar-a-lago/85472989007/
littlemissmartypants
(34,404 posts)Elon openly made a statement to that effect recently. It's more common that female children are abused by family members than not. Hard to reconcile, but there's plenty of research and proof that supports the notion.
tulipsandroses
(8,301 posts)The video is dated 2006. So he would have been 60 yrs old then. Gushing about a girl that might have been 17 yrs old?? Really?
In my world, at best that's a creepy old man.
littlemissmartypants
(34,404 posts)It's beyond weird to me. I've lived it. When it's a child, that man's a pedophile and they're everywhere.
Irish_Dem
(82,411 posts)And talk about them in sexual ways
Irish_Dem
(82,411 posts)Irish_Dem
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Not hard to Imagine a regular person being bribed or threatened into keeping Trump happy.
All the employees at MAL had to know that Trump was trafficking young girls. The father knew what was going on.
dhol82
(9,661 posts)Totally dysfunctional family.
yardwork
(69,676 posts)markodochartaigh
(5,545 posts)Of course a lot of the country is stuck in the 60's.
Skittles
(172,948 posts)the series MAD MEN featured an episode with someone in blackface - the episode included a notice regarding the accepted racism at that time.......yet not once did I see such a warning regarding the rampant sexism displayed in EVERY episode
llmart
(17,729 posts)I worked in offices from the time I was 17. Most of my experience was as a clerical/steno or secretary or executive secretary. I worked in engineering departments for quite a number of years which of course were all men. The comments and behavior were abhorrent. They weren't all like that, but the nice gentlemanly guys always looked out for me. Yes, it was like Mad Men.
littlemissmartypants
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comments, suggestions and actions toward me. Most of them were illegal and some were just bizarre.
murielm99
(33,095 posts)We had to learn to look out for ourselves.
Skittles
(172,948 posts)then worked in IT around mostly guys
I ALWAYS held my own though - any guy who ventured into that nasty territory found out the hard way I was NOT to be messed with; no INDEED.
Most of us could do the same.
I had a co-worker who kept telling me what he would like to do- the third time he said it, I told him that if he was that interested Id have to call his wife and let her know. He never ever made another such comment to. me.😀
mwmisses4289
(4,749 posts)This is the man who made lewd comments about his baby daughter by his second wife.
Seinan Sensei
(1,647 posts)
and definitely if he touched her the way he touched others
TSF (or anyone else) would be picking themselves up off the sidewalk.
Someone would be going to the hospital.
It might be me.
But that kind of behavior, that kind of language, would never go unanswered.
B.See
(8,889 posts)Skittles
(172,948 posts)my dad would have kicked his ass right then and there
rubbersole
(11,280 posts)They wish they could be just like him.
Heidi
(58,846 posts)Its a cult.
misanthrope
(9,631 posts)that he likely made up that story on the spot. It would be completely within character.
Ping Tung
(4,370 posts)
BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)Republicon family values are so scummy
tanyev
(49,701 posts)Like the source that talked to Page Six magazine in 2007 about Giufre: a masseuse about 18 years old. Sounds like John Miller or John Baron picked up the phone to call in that quote.
https://pagesix.com/2007/10/15/sex-case-victims-lining-up/
tulipsandroses
(8,301 posts)From all I've read, the 14 yr old told her parents what Epstein did and they went to the police. Perhaps this is what he meant? trump was calling up the papers to give them stories?
But its interesting that Epstein says he was not banned.
Kid Berwyn
(25,128 posts)Talks like one. Acts like one. Is one.
Such people cannot be reformed.
And as long as they are allowed, they will continue to be sexual predators.